Linux - A thing of wonder

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Feb 27th, 2007, 03:18 PM
kleinma

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

is there anyway to boot in text mode or something, I can hardly read the text to even try to get where I need to be
Feb 27th, 2007, 03:26 PM
kleinma

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

Quote:

Originally Posted by visualAd

Run your Virtual Machine with VMWare server. Its free and a lot better than MS Virtual PC.

does it let you remote manage multiple systems at the same time through a webpage interface?
Feb 27th, 2007, 03:28 PM
TomGibbons

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

Quote:

Originally Posted by kleinma

is there anyway to boot in text mode or something, I can hardly read the text to even try to get where I need to be

Either edit /etc/inittab and change this line:

Code:

id:5:initdefault:

to:

Code:

id:3:initdefault:

Or when it's booting, hit E to edit the boot configuration and append a space then the number 3 on to the kernel line.

That will boot into run level 3 - multiuser mode.
Feb 27th, 2007, 03:35 PM
kleinma

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

I was able to get in by hitting escape at the GRUB menu and selecting recovery mode. That gave me just a console, and I was able to get in and edit the file, however changing the one value I found of "24" to "16" didn't change anything. I don't see anything else that would indicate a different color depth. Any ideas?

It looks like this

Code:

SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection

There are other subsections above it, all with same resolution, but depth is 1,4,8,15, and 16 (was 24)

Anything else I should try changing?
Feb 27th, 2007, 04:09 PM
Arrow_Raider

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

Quote:

Originally Posted by kleinma

I was able to get in by hitting escape at the GRUB menu and selecting recovery mode. That gave me just a console, and I was able to get in and edit the file, however changing the one value I found of "24" to "16" didn't change anything. I don't see anything else that would indicate a different color depth. Any ideas?

It looks like this

Code:

SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection

There are other subsections above it, all with same resolution, but depth is 1,4,8,15, and 16 (was 24)

Anything else I should try changing?

So you actually have ubuntu installed or is that the livecd? Whatever changes you make to a session running off the livecd don't save when you turn off the machine. If you did get ubuntu installed, how did you install it without getting the display to work?
Feb 27th, 2007, 04:13 PM
kleinma

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

Installed.

I installed it from the DVD using textmode and that worked ok. Then when it boots from the hard drive, it boots into the GUI which is where my issue is with the display.

So I rebooted, selected recovery mode, which gave me just a command prompt after it loaded everything. From there I edited the conf file you mentioned, and changed 24 to 16, but I still get the same results.

I confirmed that I infact DID save the conf file and all that fun stuff.
Feb 27th, 2007, 04:14 PM
litlewiki

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

As visualAd pointed out ,try vmware player .Its free and fully supports Linux without any changes.
Feb 27th, 2007, 04:18 PM
kleinma

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

I am well aware of VMWare, but he didn't answer my question as to if it supports the same feature set for remote management that Virtual Server does. It would also need to run on Vista.
Feb 27th, 2007, 04:24 PM
capsulecorpjx

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

Quote:

Originally Posted by wossname

Not only did linux fail to boot, but it also managed to switch off my secondary IDE channel too!

Wow, nice going linux, now I understand why you are so popular with people that require stable and reliable systems.

I'm going to celebrate this happiest of occasions with simply giving up on you forever. You will never again break my laptop (first it was Suse that broke a large portion of my paimary disc which I have yet to be able to recover and now Knoppix decides to hang every time I boot from the CD.

And I've apparently just wasted £35 on a ****ing linux book.

*******!

*screams*
*gnashing of teeth*

*no beer left...cries*

What version were you using? I recommend Fedora or Red Hat. Linux is pretty cool to play around with, though I'd never use it as an everyday OS.

Its mainly good for IT learning. LOTS of companies are migrating to Linux.
And Linux is more stable than Windows serverwise, if the function is simple and straightforward as say to send out mail or store data.

Stripping out all that extra services and crap, makes Linux more stable. Not as many moving parts. Everything is transparent, from the IP Ports you block via editing a config file to every process running on your machine.
Feb 27th, 2007, 04:38 PM
visualAd

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

Quote:

Originally Posted by kleinma

does it let you remote manage multiple systems at the same time through a webpage interface?

It has a web interface and a client application. You can use either to manage the Virtual machines.
Feb 27th, 2007, 04:45 PM
litlewiki

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

http://pubs.vmware.com/guestnotes/ww...tml/wwhelp.htm
lists all oses supported by vmware and the server version of vmware has a remote management interface.
Feb 27th, 2007, 04:45 PM
kleinma

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

can you run multiple VMs at the same time and network them?
Feb 27th, 2007, 04:47 PM
litlewiki

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

Oh yes ,of course you can.
Feb 27th, 2007, 05:13 PM
kleinma

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

I guess I could install both being that its all free software I am working with.
Feb 27th, 2007, 05:20 PM
litlewiki

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

ubuntu installs like a breeze on vmware .Once setup ,you can install samba to network it with your windows clients.
Feb 27th, 2007, 05:33 PM
visualAd

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

You can now buy processors that support virtualisation. In effect, this completely removes the need for virutalisation at application level or hyper-virtulisation through kernel patches etc, as the processor contains two execution domains.

The fact that the virtualisation is carried out at the processor level means that the speed of the VM is almost as fast as the host machine.
Feb 27th, 2007, 05:39 PM
Arrow_Raider

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

Quote:

Originally Posted by visualAd

You can now buy processors that support virtualisation. In effect, this completely removes the need for virutalisation at application level or hyper-virtulisation through kernel patches etc, as the processor contains two execution domains.

The fact that the virtualisation is carried out at the processor level means that the speed of the VM is almost as fast as the host machine.

The application needs to support virtualization to make use of it. Virtual PC 2004 doesn't support virtualization. VPC 2007 will. I'm unaware as to whether VMWare does or not.
Feb 27th, 2007, 05:43 PM
kleinma

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

I think Virtual Server 2005 R2 does, which is what I am using, although I would have to look further into that to be sure.
Feb 27th, 2007, 05:47 PM
litlewiki

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

Another happy customer. :)
Feb 27th, 2007, 06:06 PM
visualAd

Re: Linux - A thing of wonder

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrow_Raider

The application needs to support virtualization to make use of it. Virtual PC 2004 doesn't support virtualization. VPC 2007 will. I'm unaware as to whether VMWare does or not.

VMWare and the Xen hypervisor for linux both support it.

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