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"Meanwhile, a prominent Iranian newspaper, Hamshahri, invited artists to enter a Holocaust cartoon competition, saying it wanted to see if freedom of expression -- the banner under which many Western publications reprinted the prophet drawings -- also applied to Holocaust images"
Oh... this is going to be a hoot... battle of the religions via cartoons.
You beleive in Moses and Jesus right, and regard them as Prophets. Then why don't you get offended when they put cartoons or photographs of them in magazines or newspapers? I just want to know why the prophet Mohammed is regarded as more important that any other prophet if he was sent by Allah, like every other prophet before him. Shouldn't he get the same treatment? I do beleive that we should respect everyone's beliefs but i beleive that some people make a big deal over something that is too small to hurt them.
I'm not trying to start trouble, I just want to point that in other religions if something is printed that offends them, they normally do not protest or anything.
That is all i am saying on this topic. :wave:
That was an excellent post. :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by fahad k
Why will you not let them? Rise above such hatfeul opinions and realise that it was an accident and offence was not intentional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuja Ali
How can the muslim faith not expect to be victimised when they are so keen to attack innocent persons for an accidental insult :rolleyes:
Only a few of them are. You can't say all people that follow Islam would attack innocent persons.Quote:
Originally Posted by valleys
Simple. Because it is my right to protest against such incidents. And it might have been accidental at first but after that it was all intentional. If you know that the cartoons first appeared in Sep and then the newspaper apologized. What was the need of reprinting them again in the name of Freedom of Speech when they knew it is going to create more problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valleysboy1978
That shows how you think. :) Why should I blame whole of Europe when a single newspaper printed something? I wouldn't blame an English speaking person just because an English paper printed something that offended me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Valleysboy1978
Because of couple of guys you are dictating that whole of the community is wrong. I am sorry dear friend but you have got the basics itself incorrect.
Ditto hereQuote:
Originally Posted by penagate
The problem is that the right of free speech DOES give you the right to offend people and generally to behave like an rear pointing orifice. I would argue, however, that it's not a good right to exercise in that manner. I don't think Shuja Ali has tried to justify the violence of the recent protests but has instead asked 'Why would you knowingly offend me? or defend the right of others (ie the media) to do so?'. This seems like a perfectly reasonable question to me. And it doesn't matter why a muslim finds a cartoon of Mohammed offensive, it only matters that they do. After all, I like bacon, but I wouldn't feed it to a jew.
I think the original printing of the cartoons by the Danish press was excusable as ignorance and, notably, the islamic community protested PEACEFULLY, to that - they simply boycotted Danish goods. The reprinting of the cartoons, however, was not excusable. This was a deliberate attempt to offend and to provoke exactly the sort of reaction that has ensued. The question is not whether the papers had a right to do this (they do have that right), but rather why, as right thinking human beings, they would choose to exercise it in this case. The right of free speech is worth fighting for, but not over the ability to print some ropey old drawing that most us wouldn't regard as particularly funny anyway and when you know you're going to offend people by doing so.
Many members of my Catholic Irish family would disagree with you :ehh: (which isn't meant to be an indication of my own politics - I live quite happily in Southampton)Quote:
There has been incredibly hug emnity between the celtic nations (Wales, Scotland, Ireland) and England for the best part of 4000 years. Yet we live next to each other in peace leaving the emnity to a playful jab every now and again.
Yup...not the brightest thing to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by nemaroller
I am interested to see what happens regarding these cartoons in Iran about the holocoust. I hope they print the cartoons, and I also hope that people will just go "whatever" and pretty much ignore them, which is what I can actually see happening. If this happens then surely the papers plans would have backfired.
Also, the cartoons of the prophet were a competition to see how the middle east and Muslims are preceived by the west. As it should last week people drew the prophet with a bomb on his head, may this be wrong, or right, it's not an issue. However, if that's how people were perceived back then...what on earth is their perception now :(
Woka
WHy not? What's so special that you feel you are except from satire? Bearing in mind that we are talking about satire here, and not a hate campagne.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuja Ali
This seems a little hypocritical don't you think...? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuja Ali
Can you not respect the fact that the west (Europe) has feedom of speech, and therefore a satirical cartoon is perfectly accdeptable, regardless of it's nature and was not meant as a stab at the religion, but as light hearted humour?
Woka
Indeed, its certainly not helping woka.
If they didn't react violently the said newspapers wouldn't have done what they did (which is why I had a post exclaiming about their actions). Recently there have been many such comments about the Welsh in many different media types from "why do they exist?" to "They are full of single mums on benefit". Even so, as hurtful and derogatory these comments are I would never resort to a violent protest against persons that didn't originally MAKE the comments. I just ignore it and get on with my life.
Well what a tangled web we weave!
Let's have some facts (unverified I might add: before someone bites my head off)
On this basis around 1/6th of the world is Islamic, which means the vast vast majority of people are not interested in Islamic beliefs or values. The vast majority.
How do those who profess to be of the Muslim faith in one hand and promote violence in the other intend to live in a world where the vast majority of people do not accept, understand, nor believe in Islam?
Satire is embedded in Western culture; it should not be changed, nor modified. Every religion has to accept that it will be subject to satirical whims regardless of whether or not they like it.
As for the word 'offense?' How overused is that word these days? I suspect a great deal of those who were 'offended' were told they must feel this way. I don't see it per se as being offensive - it's satire - it's meant to pull at a few strings.
It's unfortunate that the overtly aggresive reaction from a particularly small minority of Muslims is in fact a parody of what they are offended by. This makes it circular and self-perpetuating.
It is up to the Muslim leaders to educate their crowd accordingly and in such a manner that enables Muslims to live side by side with their secular cousins in harmony (just as the vast majority of Muslims in fact do). Do they not currently enjoy the freedom to practice their religion precisely as a result of secular democratic government?
I can feel a profound and saddening sense of irony coming upon me . . .
Speaking as non-Muslim somewhat conservative american idiot:
First and foremost I'm repulsed by the fact that newspapers reprinted the cartoons merely to show off their "Free Speech". This only cheapens the great gift that we have been given in the western world.
Second I was excited at first to see that the arab world was initially embracing peaceful protest, such as boycotts and what have you. I think this is a major step in the right direction and will only make relations between our people that much better. BUT for every step forward that we seemed to take a bunch of steps back, this raging violence has brought us back further than we were to start. The radical muslim world (I realize that they do not represent muslims as a whole) needs to learn that violence will not gain them respect or cooperation, hatred and mistrust are the only things to be gained from this. Violence only brings about more violence, and it saddens me to think of the loss of human life because of a stupid cartoon. That my friends is unacceptable (i'm not saying that there are acceptable reasons for the loss of human life just that this is even more appaling).
I hope that some good can come of this, but as of now that seems doubtful.
Another truly excellent post from yrywddfa :thumb::thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by yrwyddfa
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/4694090.stm
Errrr...NO!
England is not a muslim country.
Can I campagne to ban all religion and make it illegal to be religeous full stop, re post #66.
One of the reasons this frustrates me so much is because in a years time, will something else offend, then we are back to square one.
Lets take it to an extreme, say people start saying that women who don't cover their faces up offend. So there is a call for ALL women, regardless of religion, to cover themselves up...i have taken that to an extreme, but where does it all stop?!
Woka
Excellent post. I'd sure like to hear the true answer to those questions. I have heard right-wing answers, and they sound self-serving to me. I have heard little from the left except more questions. I'd like to hear an actual answer other than some variation on: "We're great, so they hate us for it."Quote:
Originally Posted by fahad k
As far as I am aware it was the CIA who "created" Mr Laden. Back in the 90's the CIA helped the afghans defeat the Russian invasion. They pretty much trained and financed the entire operation over a number of years.
This was when the 1st training camps were setup, but the "enemy" was the invading Russian army. Even though the cold war was over, the US and Russia still didn't like each other. The US really doesn't like communist states, and that's why they financed the Taliban.
One thing I have always wandered was why did he/they then turn on the US? Did Bin have this planned when the US was helping him? What did the US actually do to deserve 9/11?
Woka
One thingthat is interesting is that up until the 1st world war, the US was the whipping boys of the rest of the world. Spain, England and many other countries used to sail over there and give them a good kicking.
Then one day in the very late 1800's the US got wind of a planned Spanish invasion, and so sailed over to Spain and splattered the Spanish fleet when they set sail. Ever since then the US has not let anyone come over and attack it on it's own soil, and thus has always intercepted the "enemy" on foreign ground (abroad).
Essentially the US was that little kid at school who was bullied everyday, but then grew up to be a very strong lad who can stand up for himself, and so confronted any agression head on without waiting to be attacked 1st. We all must know someone like this.
Woka
This is a myth. The US did support the Mujahidin in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation, but Bin Laden was not one of the revepients. He hated the U.S., had his own money and would never have accepted help for the evil satan.Quote:
As far as I am aware it was the CIA who "created" Mr Laden.
This is incorrect...I'm almost positive of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by moeur
I have seen many documentaries that say otherwise, interviews with ex CIA agents, video footage of said CIA agents actually smiling and laughing with Mr. Laden.
Woka
I have just tried to find info on the web about this and have come across 2 very different stroies. The documentaries and video footage evidence I have seen is almost exactly what is found here:
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Af...A_Taliban.html
However, I did come across some sites that say the CIA had nothing to do with anything and were not even present if Afghanistan.
From what I have seen and from evidence now publicly available due to the Freedom of Information act I am almost 99% convinced that what is in that link above is true.
ex-CIA members, who were filmed with Bin, also back up the info in that above web site.
Maybe they lied on camera for what ever reason, but personally I doubt it.
As you are well aware the CIA have tried to start the odd war here and there...I am thinking of a time when they sank a ship from cuba. This is fact and only became truth, instead of a conspiracy theory, when the documents had to be made public by US law x many years after it happened.
Woka
Everything I've seen (and I don't mean propaganda web pages like the one you referenced) says there was no connection between the two.
But, we will probably never know for a fact.
Wanna talk about who created what? A mullah in Denmark created this whole storm. Going on a tour d' Islam to rally the troops by throwing the cartoons around for months after the original publication. That, Shuja - is why the images were reprinted - that's exactly what the plan was. When that didn't work people up enough (read muslims), he added a couple more to the original cartoons, including a grainy photo from a French pig calling competition that showed a French guy in a pig mask. The esteemed mullah saw fit to claim it was a cartoon depicting Mohammed. That did the trick, and here we are today. The religon of peace my foot. And show me in the Koran where it says that images of Mohammed are forbidden. Wasn't this a response to Christian images of Jesus/God? You show us yours, so we won't show you ours. Pick a fight and that's exactly what you'll get. At least this may be a wake up call for Europe. If nothing else good comes out of this, at least awareness of the threat may finally be heightened and civilized people will act accordingly.
I've often wondered what it was like for those that lived and saw the beginnings of the world wars. Did they realize what they were seeing? Would I? I don't have that question anymore.
:eek:
I thought we had all come to agreement that it was only a minority of people causing violence...although this number does seem to be growing, maybe it's just getting more media attention and so we just assume it's getting worse. But the majority of muslims are good hard honest citizens of whatever country they are nationals of.
What we cannot do is tarnish the good decent people with an evil incorrect perception.
Remember 7/7 in london, well weeks after that Asians were getting onto the tube, in rush hour, to go to work just like any average person in London. When they got onto the tube people moved away from them. How awful must that have been. Complete strangers segragating you when you have done nothing wrong and it's purely because of your perceived nationality. Must hav been horrible and very upsetting for these people.
The worst thing is, is that even though I KNOW it's wrong to do that...would I have done it under the circumstances...I would love to say I wouldn't have...but...:(
It's an extremely shocking and horrible situation to be in, and I really do feel for the innocent people who are being portrayed as evil, regardless of race, nationality, religion or whether they like iPods or not.
Woka
I knew they would finally blame it on some one from the community.Quote:
Originally Posted by demotivater
I am still stressing the point that you cannot offend me or my religion by printing whatever you like. And moreover it was done knowingly and was motivated to hurt people.
Everyone is talking about the violent protests across the world. I too do not like people encouraging voilence. But I also do not like people offending my religion. Why do acts which will encourage people like OBL and others to take advantage of all this. When I am not saying anything against other religions, why should others offend me.
And to have a look at the World Population , you might think that muslims are a minority. Have a look at this link . It says Islam is the second most popular religion in the world and is growing even faster than the population growth rate of the world. This is just in response to one of the posts here.
Satire is dead, long live the new satire. The time has come to introduce the world to Satire Light. Without the sting.
And cherry flavoured.
I Asked the Dude At Work This Question. Islam Prohibits Drawings Full Stop. So The Iqraa Channel/Al Jazeera for Example Which We Catch on Cable Shows the Prophets Biography Animated, Its Draws All the Prophets Followers, Friends Family, etc and Obviously is Done in a Respectable Way, Yet It is Incorrect and Refrained from. In Those Cartoons They Dont Draw The Prophet Mohammed Though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew G
Muslims Believe That Some People For Example: Like in India Worship Idols, Even Though People Praying Know That Some Ancestor Made That Idol, Supposedly to Represent God. That Eventually Got the People to Forget God And They Transformed into Believing That the Idol itself was God. See Where This is Going...
So Islam Forbids Drawings, It is Allowed For Muslims to Draw Trees, Etc, Anything that Does Not Have Eyes.
Example: Animals, Humans, etc. If a Muslim Ends Up Drawing Anything With Eyes And Regards the Drawings as Sins, Yet he Does it, then he Will be Punished on Judgement Day. Part of the Punishment is God Will Ask Him to Make that Same Drawing Come to Life, Which he Wont be Able to Do. Then He Will be Punished, As He Tried to Create Something Better that What God Has Created, and Muslims Believe Only God is the Best of Creators. I Kinda Agree With This As Kids of today Worship X-Men, Spider-Man, Etc.
So Any Muslim That Draws Animated Objects is Sinning. So This my Collegue Says "Shuts Up the Cartoons The Iranians, Etc Draw in Protest."
As For Offending Other Religions, Like South Park for Example, They Do Whatever Negative They Can With Jesus. Chritistians However Do Squat. He Says This Shows Christianity is not A True Religion - They believe its God Son, Yet they do Nothing, Muslims Only Believe its A Prophet & Look at their Response. They Blood Does Boil for Belittling of Jesus, Moses, etc, However And he says Those That Do Belittle any True Prophet is Cursed. They Also Believe Jesus Will Return On Day, But To Propagate Islam - Not as a Prophet, as A Preacher.
Your Question: Why the Prophet Mohammed Regarded as More Important Than Any Other Prophet ?
He Says Everyone has A Favourite, Like a father has 2 Sons for Example But Likes One More Than the Other (you can understand this?). Muslims Believe God Favourite Creation is Mohammed.
Proof 1:
You Know The Israelis And Palestinians Always Fight For the Same Piece of Land, Jews Saying Solomon is Burried There, But The Muslims Say its Their Sacred Site. Its Muslims Sacred Site Cause Mohammed, Just Before He Journey'd to Heaven, To Get the "Sallah Orders" (Salaah is the 5 prayers They Do Everyday) He Journeyed to Palestine with Angel Gabreal to That Same Site Al-Aqsa(which is that Building that has the Big Gold Roof), and Lead the Prayers Infont of All of the Previous Prophets, To Show All Prophets he is the Leader of Them.
Proof 2:
The Story Goes, Prophet Yahya had 2 Sons Haroon & Another One.
I Think Prophet Haroon is The Isreal Progeny (Jews) and From The Other Son Came the Arabs Progeny. All the Prophets Before Mohammed Came From the Isreal Side of the Family and All of them Knew That The Last Prophet Was to Come and That he was the Best of All the Prophets.
The Jews as They Were Told in their Scriptures Were Waitng in Arabia For the Last Prophet. But Because He came From The Other Side of The Family (Arabs) Not the Jews Progeny, the Jews Rejected Him. So the fact that he Was Known to be the Last Prophet By Each & Every Prophet, Shows His Status, to Muslims & to The Previous Prophets Themselves, Who Believed in His Arrival as the Last Prophet..
Yeah I Hear ya, But He Says Imagine that All the Protests Were Peacefull. He Explains: The Cartoons 1st Came out in September in Denmark, The Muslims There Objected, I Think The Gov. Apologized, But Said it Wont be Banned For the Free Speech Deal. End of Story.Quote:
I'm not trying to start trouble, I just want to point that in other religions if something is printed that offends them, they normally do not protest or anything.
But then It Got Published Again This Year, Almost to Say Nothing Happend in Denmark, So Lets Mess with Islam As they Do With Jesus -This is How he Reasons it.
Personally I want to Know Why it Reprinted, it isnt Really Freedom of Expression and The Media Has the Right to Know, There's No Real Knowledge to Come out of these Cartoons, Only Hatred. In Denmark the Newspaper Competition was To Draw Prophet Mohammed in a Jestful Manner, as you Can See All the Pics were ONLY of Mohammed, and ALL were Offensive.(why republish that around Earth?)
My Friend Also Says If You Project the Prophet of A Religion WorldWide as A Terrorist, Who'd Join Islam?
Muslims Felt the Brunt of that - So The Protest Went out Of Control, WorldWide. Obviously the Peacefull Protests in Denmark Back in September Didnt Work, The Cartoons & Still Being Spread & Not Banned. So They Went Wild. In a way I Understand, But No One Should Die, If they Wanna Wreck Stuff to Scare The Media & Ban the Pics Evacuate People then Wreck Stuff.
No one Should Die.
You Should See These Muslims, In a Normal day, Everyday They Eat With The Right Hand, Enter The Toilet With The Left Foot, Wear their Trousers Above the Ankles, Refrain totally From Pork & Alcohol, Pray Before Eating, Pray Before, During, After Travelling, Pray Before Sleeping, Pray On Awakening, Pray When it Rains, Pray Before Sunset, etc.
This Muslim Dude Here Cant Even Eat From McDonalds or KFC, Cause the Meat Might be "Halaal" and Allowed For Them but the Spices isn't(if Fats Come From Impermissable Meat)
He cant Brush His Teeth With AquaFresh caue It Contains Certain Unlawful Ingredients.
They Wake at 4AM to Pray which last for about 3 Minutes Everyday, Grow Beards, Women Dress with the Scarf & Veil, etc...... and all this Because they say the Prophet is the Best Example, and he Did That, So that Must Be the Right Way, hence they Follow.
So After So Much of Their Lives Are Affected by the Prophet, in Everyday's Everything, How do you Expect Them To React When the Media is Dishonouring their Prophet Publically to Them & Everyone. I can Understand the Anger though I disagree with the Implementation/Protest.
This Muslim Friend Of Mine Knows His Stuff, So If You Got Questions, I Can Ask Him.
Nice Post Dude.
A peacefull protest, stop using the products that are made there, stop reading that newspaper, things similar to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Something Else
Hang on a minute - there's that word again: the 'offend' word.
Now I'm going to be first in line to admit I know next to nothing about Islam, and what does and doesn't upset the proponents of the religion. I know that if I served squid to a follower he's not going to eat it. I know the name of their principle fellow, and I wouldn't take his name in vein, or anything else, out of respect for the good (peaceful) people who follow Islam.
But would I draw a cartoon? I don't know - I actually don't draw cartoons that well - but would I have expected this to offend a Muslim friend? No, I wouldn't have. I have learnt from this episode that one shouldn't be drawing pictures of their holy people - even though Islams closest cousins, the Christians, have been drawing cartoons for kids for centuries. (I think the Bible has something to say about that, actually)
So where do I go from here? Is it now a social requirement to learn the ins and outs of the main five religions so that I will know, in advance, what it is that will offend and what it is that won't?
Do the people of the major 5 religions expect me to do the same?
I can prepare a questionnaire for the Christians, and Muslims on here on Buddhism if you'd like, so you can see how you'd fare on an 'offence test' against one of the smaller of the 5 religions.
In a complete turnaround of what I've just said . . There are obvious distinctions between respect and prejudice. Depicting anyone as a terrorist (without a shred of evidence) is clearly crossing the line between satire, and prejudice. This does not detract from the fact that depicting a major religious figure as a terrorist is an utterly ridiculous, stupid, and ignorant thing to do.
I support the current Islamic protests that are peaceful and follow the process of law as is customary in a democratic nation.
The Muslim Women Traditional Islamic Dress Hijab To Cover the Head is Banned in Places Like France, Ireland & Turkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by yrwyddfa
http://www.rutherford.org/articles_d...?article_id=92
http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/...y398539447.asp
http://islam.about.com/cs/currenteve...ce_hijab_2.htm
Isnt France one of the Big 5?
Actually, I'd forgotten about that particular issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Codehammer
BTW, France is not one of the big 5 religions. Not that I'm aware of, anyway.
Whilst there are countries that act in an intolerant way, I find it comforting that the US protects it's citizens. There are about 100 secular democracies throughout the world, and I don't think I would be alone in saying this, the French, Turkish, and Russian democracies are not representative of free-market secular democracies the world over.Quote:
the difference between religious freedoms internationally and domestically: the French, Turkish and Russian governments acted to deny Free Exercise, while the U.S. government acted to protect Free Exercise.
In many cases these three are renowed for legislature promoting intolerance (normally to protect secularism, and not to promote hatred, btw)
Like I Say, Islam and True Muslims Are Innocent concerning Terrorism & Violence Done By "Muslims", as Christianity & True Christians Are Innocent Concerning "Christian" Hitler's Rampage .Quote:
Originally Posted by Wokawidget
Whats the IPOD Gig?
He meant France is among the Big 5 nations not the Big 5 religions.Quote:
Originally Posted by yrwyddfa
MY previous post mentioned the Big 5 in a religious context. I thought he was following on from my context. If he wasn't then he should have specified that he was talking about countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuja Ali
. . and I very much doubt if France is considered one of the Big 5 countries.
South Parks 1st Season's Episode Started With Jesus, Its Season 9 Now & its Going On. Drawn Together & Countless Others Joined in to Mock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wokawidget
I Dont Know If the Christians Opposed It, But I'm Hearing Nothing. - Theres the Problem, Doing Squat Causes Squat Results & on it Goes.
Seems Like the Christians Either Dont Care, or Maybe Feel Helpless, or Don't Really Have Faith To Motivate Some Sorta Action?
I Mentioned Above How Passionate The Muslims Are, Can You Wake Up Everyday at 4AM to Pray for +- 3 Minutes, Then Sleep Again, & Wake to Go Work? Yet Every Muslim Has to Do That Everyday.
In Contrast I've Met Only One Christian So Far, In This Christian Dominated Country I am In Thats Unmarried and is Still a Virgin. (this point is obviously not researched)
Had the Christains Protested Like the Muslims Did At the Start, it May Have Stopped - Which is What Christains Would Want - The Violence Part is the Hot Topic (its Wrong I Know), But Maybe Violence is What It Takes to Get a Point Through WorldWide, So it Seems?
Note: I am Not Supporting the Violence or Approving it, i'm Just Trying to Make Sense if It All.
Christians Slack in Their Faith, It Got to the Point Where Gays & Gay Priest are Accepted into their Faith. In Islam Can You Believe in the 21st Century they Refrain From Interest, And Can't Change a Single Law Based on "The Times"?
Interest Dude, its EVERYWHERE!
My Point Here Being is You Ask Why Arn't Christians Protesting and Angered, Well Analysing their Responses To Issues of Faith Like Gay Priests, etc May Hold that Answer to That Question.
Muslims Don't See it That Way. Why?Quote:
"stupid newspaper, doesn't know what it's talking about, it is only a newspaper, I'll get on with my life" and then just never buy that newspaper instead...
If You Make the Prophet A Terrorsit Globally, Who Will Accept Their Faith?
Face it, We Got People in This Country, On this Forum, on this Thread Who Can't Differentiate That Muslims Can be Good, Hardworking and Against Violence, Not All Being Extremists & Out to Get Them? Its News For Them & I Can't Count How Many Times I Addressed These People Here and Elsewhere, Its Like They're the Ones Living In Caves.
People Today Believe Elvis is Around, Bigfoot, Spiderman. They Will Believe Anything in The Papers. Where Again is This Forums Thread Saying We're in the Matrix Right Now? :)
So Negatively Advertising in Newspapers Globally on the Religion Will Have Negative Impacts on Their Religion, They Realise This And Go Wild. - I Can Understand This.
Advertize Globally On the Net & All the Papers & TV 'bout your Gurls Crap Haircut, Then I Wanna See You Get Some! :) & If You & Your House Exist on Earths Surface.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wokawidget
my bullsh*t-o-meter just blew a fuse...
Have you heard the recent uproar about the tv show on NBC called the "Book of Daniel". Google it. The show aired maybe once or twice before it was yanked, and there was no violent protests needed. South park has been protested time and again, but not as much due to the fact that is on cable, i believe and has a much smaller audience than compared to normal broadcast tv.Quote:
Originally Posted by Codehammer
:lol: I need to meet some of the women that you hang out with. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by codehammer