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My project leader came down with it. He is a volunteer poll worker and he thinks he got it there. He wife also has it now too.
Sorry to hear that, I hope he and his family come through without serious complications. Nobody deserves to suffer.Quote:
Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
I was getting groceries delivered, paying the extra and trying to tip drivers well. I sprayed all the surfaces with hydrogen peroxide and let them sit in bags and coolers a couple of days. I took a sack out to grab the mail and then let it sit a couple of days before touching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kfcSmitty
I might have to go back to that. I've let my guard down and probably have just been lucky.
My solution is just to eat everything. I've owned this house for 17 years. I can't say definitively that there has NEVER been any leftovers in the house in all those years, but it can't have been more than once or twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilettante
Our hospitals are filling up badly. We'll see what happens. The future looks bright, but it also looks like it's a good ways off.
Back in the dark ages we used an open box of baking soda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Did your governor start out early minimizing wearing masks?Quote:
Our hospitals are filling up badly.
No, but he didn't need to. The politics in Idaho have always been fascinating, and the current situation doesn't disappoint. There's a governor and lt. governor, both of the same party (cause you win with an R in this state). The governor started out being pretty responsible, in my opinion. His reaction was prompt and reasonable. He wasn't advocating masks early on, but he was so early that the CDC wasn't advocating masks at that time, either.
Meanwhile, the lt. gov has been actively campaigning against the governor by basically running on the anit-whatever platform. It doesn't much matter what you are against, as long as it's any form of anti-society, she's with you, and very vocally so. Whatever moves the governor makes, the lt. governor actively undermines it.
Thus we find ourselves in this situation: We're slowly creeping towards a lockdown, fussing and fighting with every step we take. Businesses generally require masks if they have the weight to do so (big box stores, independent businesses, and not so much smaller chains). People are generally wearing masks in most places, but there isn't any mandate except in Boise, and there is loud, vocal opposition to masks from a certain segment of the community. In fact, it's a series of segments of the community that happen to overlap on this issue, along with a few other issues, but largely resembles The People's Front of Judea.
Lemmie guess... the Gov & LtGov are elected separately? Yeah, we used to have that here too in SC... they changed that recently, so the next time the Gov comes up for election (in two more years I think) it will be a combined ticket, where the Gov candidates will select their #2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
-tg
I'd expect there to be a few people rejecting masks because they think it doesn't help, I'd expect there to be a few not wearing mask just because they're inconsiderate, self centered asses but these people that are doing it for political reasons or are saying it violates their civil right just makes no sense.
To be part of spreading a deadly disease for political reason, is just shameful. They should be arrested and placed in a COVID hospital ICU unit without a mask for a week.
The people crying about my body my choice, don't step on my civil rights, do you really think they're under the illusion that people can do any thing they want in the US? The law forces you to wear clothes when in public (thank goodness). Lets throw them in the ICU also.
There are so many of these kind of people. Kind of frightening and disappointing.
I was listening to a nurse being interviewed and she was relating that some people, until their dying breaths, are denying they have covid-19 and it exists. I'm willing to bet that patient lived in that Faux news bubble.
In Idaho, they run separately. Whether or not there is any collaboration between them going into the election I don't know. There sure isn't any collaboration between these two currently.Quote:
Originally Posted by techgnome
Did my last in-person supply run for a while last night. Store had disposable masks for free next to their flyers in the entry kiosk. Haven't seen that before.
Went in to see the Doc today, and he offered his hand again. This time I took it, though previously I had demurred offering the goofy elbow bump. Young Indian guy and I didn't want to offend. Funny in a way because he had to prod my abdomen and he gloved up for that. This time he admitted that the hospital (across the street) is sadly filling up.
I also noticed that many people completely ignore the "2 people per elevator car" there. I just wait for another one.
Stopped to pick up prescriptions and a lot of the general merchandise shelves were empty, while a lot of shelves had 75% off clearance goods. Might be one more store we'll lose here soon. Yet another "Biden closeout" in anticipation of the major economic downturn coming.
I'm getting a lot of mixed messages. People are getting nuttier, all the more reason to isolate I suppose. I've never been lucky and this is no time to pretend that I am. I don't even gamble when in Las Vegas, I know my limitations.
We have a semi-lockdown for 3 weeks starting at midnight here. I suspect this is really all about Thanksgiving worries, but after those 3 weeks we'll probably lock down fully again.
Yeah, at this point, saying that a lockdown is just for one to three weeks is silly. Any rational lockdown would extend to the beginning of January. That would really hurt, but if you're going to lock down at all in the week prior to Thanksgiving, is it even plausible that you'd then open for the Christmas to New Years window? Those are probably the most social, indoor, gathering holidays of the year, with Thanksgiving being the third (possibly second, depending on how you rank New Years).
Well I don't get the logic of it. All I can figure out is that Thanksgiving is a worrisome bump in the road but they still want to "soft" lockdown to get people used to the idea before an inevitable "hard" lockdown.
I can't see that psychology working. Not on either the element of society vocally opposed to lockdowns or its political opposition element, both of whom ignore lockdowns and general precautions in their own lives. Both seem like spoiled children, one is just a suck-up until backs are turned because they want rules (but only for other people) and the other is contentious to your face. One stabs you in the back superspreading COVID while the other spews virus on you head-on.
I think that's why we have things ramping so strongly in the U.S. and Europe. Both are descending into polyculturalism and political divisiveness, with no sense of community or cohesion in physical reality. When you despise your physical community and only identify with imaginary (virtual) communities... here we are.
Ugh, I hate all that. I absolutely support not shaking hands and I'm not offended when someone fails to proffer theirs but don't ask me to act like I'm some kind of Free Mason or Morris Dancer. Just don't shake my hand... it's fine.Quote:
the goofy elbow bump
Yeah!! Just flip them off and be done with it. It involves no touching and leaves nothing unclear.
We already covered some of that with pictures. I wasn't about to go through 41 pages looking for them though :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Dr. Atlas resigned...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/30/polit...rce/index.html
Between Him, Faux news, and Trump I wonder how many American were needlessly sickened or died because of there actions (or lack of)? Well...I guess I shouldn't leave out the republicans as they just stood by and silently watched; probably on Faux news :rolleyes:
Well, Atlas can stop holding up progress and get back to holding up the world.
That's a common misconception...he was actually sentenced to hold up the sky. Point taken though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
A common misconception today is that Atlas was forced to hold the Earth on his shoulders, but Classical art shows Atlas holding the celestial spheres, not the terrestrial globe; the solidity of the marble globe borne by the renowned Farnese Atlas may have aided the conflation, reinforced in the 16th century by the developing usage of atlas to describe a corpus of terrestrial maps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(mythology)
I knew that, but I went with the popular conception rather than the real situation. It seems to be the way of the world.
Then there was also the guy that was also forced to roll a boulder uphill, only to have it roll back down as he neared the top... Sounds like he should probably be the patron god for developers.
-tg
Sisyphus (or Sisyphos) is a figure from Greek mythology who, as king of Corinth, became infamous for his general trickery and twice cheating death. He ultimately got his comeuppance when Zeus dealt him the eternal punishment of forever rolling a boulder up a hill in the depths of Hades only for it to roll down every time it neared the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by techgnome
I think that cartoon "Hagar the Horrible" had take off on that.
Yeah, I've been doing a lot of that during lockdown too.Quote:
Classical art shows Atlas holding the celestial spheres
BTW, I thought Sisyphus was the guy stuck in a pond with a grape vine above his head that he couldn't reach but you're right, he was the boulder guy. Who was the grape vine guy?
The Pfizer virus is ready to rock and roll and is going to start being administered next week! We're a couple of months away from putting this whole sorry mess behind us. I think the admins should add a "punching the air" smiley just for this moment.
"Who was the grape vine guy?"
Aesop's Fables...the Fox kept trying to jump up and get the grapes on the vine. He finally gave up and said "they were probably sour anyway".
That wasn't who I was thinking of. I googled it and the answer was...
<drum roll/>
Tantalus. It's where we get "tantalising" from.
That was a new one to me...Quote:
Originally Posted by FunkyDexter
Tantalus is a figure from Greek mythology who was the rich but wicked king of Sipylus. For attempting to serve his own son at a feast with the gods, he was punished by Zeus to forever go thirsty and hungry in Hades despite being stood in a pool of water and almost within reach of a fruit tree
https://www.google.com/search?q=tant...active&ssui=on
So this thread is dead like the virus?
CA is now such a major hotbed or cases that we cant do or go anywhere now. WFH is the norm, getting daily deliveries from Amazon and my wife likes the Walmart order online and pick up outside the store in the parking lot all contactless. Our hospitals are at 7.7% now. My bosses daughter works in a hospital and they have a 3-4 DAY wait for the ER! Dont have a heart attack or other issues needing emergency services or you will probably die.
There is a similar situation over here in Montgomery County Pennsylvania. Cancel Christmas Gatherings is the general mood here.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
We're close, too. The governor has stated that he may be implementing an emergency health order any day, which will allow hospitals to simply refuse to help people.
I guess you missed Trump's speeches. It went away after the November 4th elections. Most intelligent people know it was a democratic hoax along.Quote:
So this thread is dead like the virus?
We've got another 3 to 4 months until this is over. Honestly, this has followed almost exactly the same path as 1918/19 and it beggars belief that politicians and pundits still refuse to see it even though the scientists are practically screaming at them.
For the record, we shouldn't be getting together for Christmas. I know it's a special day but it's also a perfectly choreographed, nation wide, super spreader event. Thousand of people are going to die in January and February because people couldn't bear to have their mince pie by zoom.
lmao,Quote:
because people couldn't bear to have their mince pie by zoom.
When I read that, I thought it said "mice pie". I was wondering if that is another name for Figgy Pudding. Crazy Brits
Pretty sure Dickens must have written a mice pie into at least one of his novels. It seems like it'd fit his themes.Quote:
Crazy Brits
I told my sister the other day that it was, "snowing like the Dickens, here". I also said that I wasn't quite sure what that phrase meant until I heard the ski area say, "please sir, I'd like some more?"
People shouldn't get together for Christmas anyways, unless you are already close enough that travel isn't too obnoxious. My family decided, years ago, to get together somewhat away from the holiday itself to avoid the airport crowds and jacked up travel prices. I suppose if you are religious, the actual day matters (well, both religious and not sufficiently well informed to believe that Jesus was born in December), but for everybody else, getting together is what matters, and the day becomes just a reason to gouge you proper. This year, there is added incentive. I'll be home for Christmas.
that's smart, I like that philosophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
the 25 of December was chosen in the past because it was the day of a pagan festival. It was to prevent new converted people to assist to the other ceremony.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Before December 15, I was confined so I needed a paper (I fill myself) to justify to go outside to do any shopping but it didn't prevent me to go to pick up some pizza at 9pm as long as I fill my paper. Now I am no more confined so I don't need anymore a paper to go out to do shopping or whatever, well almost because it is now totally forbidden to go to pick up a pizza at 9pm even with an authorization paper because of the curfew at 8pm... (France didn't have a curfew since world war II)
The world is becoming crazy.
pleonasm...:D friendly ;) to my favorite VB English gentlemenQuote:
Originally Posted by wes4dbt
Interesting, potentially useful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHVyy08L2gM
Those of us with beards scoff at your mask testing!!
28 Days Later, or Beware The UK Mutation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MINIibH2Iaw
Again, look at the cause of the 1919 third wave.Quote:
28 Days Later, or Beware The UK Mutation
We're replaying history and the sooner politicians actually try to learn from it the better.
It is worth commenting that this was discovered in the UK and the UK has a lot of it, but nothing yet has shown the UK to be its origin.
At this point the "rona fungalitis" is everywhere, and the lack of rigid travel bans in most countries makes anything else impossible. Mutations are spreading the same way.
Another good reason to mask up, wash your hands, distance, and isolate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s5UovlwpcA
I had to watch the video because I was afraid that was a picture of earwax. I have that.
I assume it's meatloaf. I'm fine with Covid if it comes with meatloaf.
That's probably what my liver looks like after a lifetime of drinking liquor :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Well, I've tested positive. Feeling OK. Just a mild cough and headache so far and doesn't seem to be getting any worse.
Anyone who's responded to any of my posts in the last 10 days should immediately self isolate.
Bummer. You should be on oxygen....cause, ya know, if you are NOT on oxygen, that usually leads to death. However, in this case, I believe you should go for a more intense oxidizer, just to be safe: You should be on nitrous oxide.
In all seriousness, I wish you a very mild case.
Wishing you a mild case FD,
Why are you only telling us now your posts are infectious too? what's new? :D
any chance of getting a covid emoji added?
Does this mean I have to be nice to you?? Can't you just ban me for 10 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by FunkyDexter
Wish you well
Ouch. I hope it doesn't hit you hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by FunkyDexter
I've begun wondering if it isn't nearly inevitable for most of us though. I hope the "low viral load = lower impact" theory bears out. It might be the only measure of control we have as individuals. Most of us haven't been able to remain isolated in orbit for the past year.
Thanks for the good wishes. I'm honestly feeling pretty good at the moment. Just a bit of a cough and a bit headachey. At any other time I'd probably have just sucked it up and gone into the office. Thankfully I work from home anyway so that's not even a thing. Also, I just bought Pathfinder so this gives me a chance to scratch my Baldurs Gate nostalgia itch.
I'm guess I'm a little nervous 'cause you know how this could go, but I honestly don't feel like that's where I'm headed.
Hell no! I enjoy the conflict. Keeps me sharp:D.Quote:
Does this mean I have to be nice to you??
Could be but I still doubt it. It's actually still a very small proportion (though a very large number) of people who have been infected and I think the vaccination programs are going to outrun the infection rates. The biggest risk is that we get a new mutation that the vaccines don't cover but from the sources I'm reading that seems unlikely - particularly with the number of different vaccines available now.Quote:
I've begun wondering if it isn't nearly inevitable for most of us though
Did you do the full test, where they swab somewhere that doesn't normally get visited?
My tonsils. Yeah, that's the one.Quote:
somewhere that doesn't normally get visited?
That one just makes me gag, but then you get over it. The one in the back of the nose is truly horrible, because it makes the inside of your skull itch for long after.
We've been seeing a pretty consistent pattern in the U.S. since the winter "heating months" began in the north. For the most part the "northern tier" has been doing relatively well compared to warmer climates.
This would seem to fly in the face of theories about fresh air ventilation, spending time outdoors away from others, low vitamin D generation with reduced sunlight exposure, etc.
There must be greater factors at work here.
Well, I can tell you people down here aren't spending it away frmo others... outside or in...
-tg
There may be more axis of involvement than the more simplistic picture presented. Imagine that, life may not be simple.
I have no idea whether this is true, but it makes a certain amount of sense: If you're in places like WA and OR, where there bulk of the population sees cold AND rain during the winter, or places like the upper midwest and New England, which sees serious cold, perhaps the cold doesn't just mean that you stay inside more, but that you also don't move around quite so much. Staying at home indoors might be less of a risk than just staying indoors more.
More likely, the virus has just been around long enough to want to migrate south for the winter.
If you like charts, this page is interesting too:
COVID-19 in the U.S.: How do Canada's provinces rank against American states?
Data seems to be retrieved and plotted on the fly, so full loading may take a while.
Poor guy, liable to find his YouTube content censored. Admitting the origins of the virus? Giving Trump the slightest shred of credit? Oh my!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgBvEYC-xkE