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Sure, Shaggy used to have a binary backyard.Quote:
Originally Posted by dclamp
Catchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by dday9
I dunno Shaggy it seems quite clear that the red tiles are mainly there as a delimiter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
It's my fun!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
nuf ym s'tI
I need to see that in a mirror.
Use this one:
http://cdn1.notonthehighstreet.com/s...jpg?1359566886
Trippy.
Oh I see, yeah, that car does have some serious acceleration going on.
Where did I say that? I'd say you made it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witis
Actually, I was quite concerned that if the yard was too regularly shaped it would end up with red lines. Fortunately, there are only a few places where they are close together. In a random pattern they should be close together occasionally. This pattern isn't random, but has some random characteristics.Quote:
No confusion, then you added some extra red tiles as fill which placed a red line through your binary message.
Actually, they have no impact at all on being able to retrieve the message. They have no part of the message anyways, other than that they can serve as a hint as to whether or not there even IS a message. If you know that there is a message, then the red bricks hint at the direction of reading, but nothing more.Quote:
Excatly! The extra red tiles put a clear red error through your binary backyard and make it difficult or impossible to retrieve the hidden message. (._.)
You made that one up, too. If delimiters were necessary, why aren't there any in ASCII messages?Quote:
Yep they clearly function as a delimiter or to obfuscate the message.
I originally stated that the eigth bit of every byte is red. That statement is not what you just misquoted, and that statement is also correct.Quote:
You originally stated that every eighth bit was red to separate each character.
I don't believe you have an imagination.Quote:
I don't imagine I have misinterpreted any of your posts. :P
There is nothing intuitive or obvious about a random-appearing pattern of tiles in somebodies yard. The vast majority of viewers would see no pattern at all and would assume that the layout was deliberately random (which was an option, because clear patterns would have serious aesthetic limitations). You may well be right that nobody would deduce the rules, which preceded laying the tiles. However, a person of the right mindset could very well figure it out, even if you can't.Quote:
Nope, not at all, you seem only to have convinced yourself that your new rules are intuitive and obvious to everyone looking at your backyard. In truth no one will ever deduce your latest rules or decipher your message due to the extra red tiles you added.
The rules were in place prior to laying any tiles. They are built into the program I wrote to create the pattern. It certainly was easier to insert red bricks if I needed to lay a base for the raised beds, but then again, the rules allowed that.Quote:
You mean you invented the rules a couple of days ago in an attempt to cover up the error you placed in your binary backyard. Most likely it was easier for you to insert a couple of red bricks to mark an error than complete more serious backyard alterations.
Yeah, a horribly expensive yard whose cost was only exceeded by the banal stupidity. Instead of a hidden message, I'd be bashing people in the face with the message in such a way that would both make me look like a vain jerk, while also showing them how little I respect their intelligence. That's a great idea. I wonder why I didn't think of it?Quote:
Focusing on two tone binary tiles, perhaps with a couple of tiles with zeros and ones on them, would have created a very obviously binary backyard.
By the way, I would agree on one point: Nobody will ever figure out the that there is a pattern by looking at the columns of bricks that lead to those red bricks. That portion of the yard is under the pergola, and most of the bricks are in short segments separated by the pergola posts (which occupy 2x2 areas). I would be very surprised if anybody saw that broken up pattern and thought it to be a pattern at all. If anybody recognizes the pattern, it will be in the open areas on either side of the central raised bed. In those stretches, there are uninterrupted eight bit runs side by side, which is where I would expect people to recognize a pattern.
Other than that, I can't decide whether you even believe what you are saying or are just speaking at random.
Nope, for example in post #55796 you said "The red bricks make up the eigth bit of every byte, since the ASCII character set (at least the normal set with the digits and punctuation) doesn't use the eigth bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Well you managed to insert at least one red line into your pattern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Would you go for pseudo random?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Sure they do, the extra red bricks ruin the binary encoded characters in that part of your pattern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
I didn't make it up, you told us that you used the red bricks as delimiters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
See you just agreed with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
It depends on how much those extra red tiles interfere with the binary encoded characters and the overall message.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Even if they managed to deduce the meaning they would also deduce that you put an error in your message.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
So I was right, thought so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Surely not your original plan which only used the red tiles as delimiters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
I'lll stick with my two tone purist view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
No, you can easily place a one and the zero in different areas so that the hint is only found after some time looking at the backyard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
That sounds true enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Potentially, however, then they have to figure out that tri colours = binary and then work around the error you put into the pattern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
I'll let you figure that one out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
You once coined the phrase :"It's the Witis way".Quote:
I can't decide whether you even believe what you are saying or are just speaking at random
Well, it's the Witis way.
It could be the way of the Witis.
It IS the Witis way. So, just one point:
Witis showed this:
A statement of mine which is true.Quote:
Nope, for example in post #55796 you said "The red bricks make up the eigth bit of every byte, since the ASCII character set (at least the normal set with the digits and punctuation) doesn't use the eigth bit.
Witis also misquoted it in this fashion:
Something I didn't say. The two statements are not contradictory. Every eigth bit is a red brick, but not every red brick is an eigth bit, nor must they be. That's a rule that was never stated or implied in any previous statement.Quote:
No misunderstanding, the red tiles in your backyard started as your binary delimiter.
I did struggle with whether or not to even include the terminal bricks in any run as part of the pattern. Bordering the entire pattern in red might have been a better plan, in the end. After all, there are raised beds all the way around two sides of the pattern and half way around a third side (no raised bed at all on the fourth side). There are also two raised beds as islands. Raised bed walls require some kind of platfrorm to build on or else they get kind of cockeyed. So, should I use a brick that is part of the pattern to form the underlayer, which will necessarily result in the bulk of that brick being covered (about 60-70%), or should I use some other kind of brick as a foundation? In the end, there is a bit of both. Where I could use a different kind of brick as a foundation, I used a narrower brick that was covered to 90-95% by the raised bed. These are almost entirely invisible due to being so thoroughly covered by the stonework above them. They are also clearly different than any other brick (different finish and texture), but they are gray, so those tiny pieces peaking out from joints in the retaining walls could confuse some people...though not anybody with an even mildly effective mind.
In a few places, the retaining wall is set onto the actual pattern, if I remember right. Time and effective gardening are obscuring those portions. My goal was vegetation that would drape down over the retaining walls, and that I have achieved quite nicely. The pattern is still there, you just have to herd the flox aside.