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No im not Dead, just been away at a party :D
Um ok Zaei, yeah i had a vb DirectMusic thing ages ago, in the old system.dll. I will re-unzip the code again tomorrow coz im too tired at the moment with all the directories and stuff so it will work, i will then try to find the bits that u need me to write into open gl and add them.
The mage is good, i think he is looking nice now.
Robe ragged = yeah like cut ickle triangles out of it.
No Hair and No face = :D
Zaei Babes: I got the code like re un zipped and added the directories and stuff, now i get this ***** ass errors on my tits:
--------------------Configuration: System - Win32 Debug--------------------
Compiling...
StdAfx.cpp
Compiling...
System.cpp
Linking...
Creating library Debug/system.lib and object Debug/system.exp
--------------------Configuration: UI - Win32 Debug--------------------
Compiling...
StdAfx.cpp
Compiling...
UI.cpp
Linking...
Creating library ..\UI.lib and object ..\UI.exp
--------------------Configuration: Divinity - Win32 Debug--------------------
Compiling resources...
Compiling...
main.cpp
d:\microsoft visual studio\times of war\zaei\classes\utils.h(44) : warning C4244: 'initializing' : conversion from 'int' to 'float', possible loss of data
d:\microsoft visual studio\times of war\zaei\classes\gpmap.h(183) : error C2664: 'Get3DDist' : cannot convert parameter 1 from 'struct VECTOR' to 'struct D3DXVECTOR3'
No constructor could take the source type, or constructor overload resolution was ambiguous
Error executing cl.exe.
Divinity.exe - 1 error(s), 1 warning(s)
Ok heres the prob, in the Classes dir there is a version of utils.h and there is another in the main dir (the one with the divinity.dsw file). One uses D3DVECTOR and the other VECTOR, i have replaces the D3DVECTOR one with the VECTOR one and it works, it just ****s my pc when i quit it, how did u say to fix that ? plus, man make esc exit the app, it dont for me :D
So, then. I've done some work on the Mage. I'm not saying he's perfect. I'm just saying that I've removed the cone and made him all ragged. We're gonna have more mages, so I don't think it's too bad the way he looks. Zaei, if you have'nt allready, just figure out how to use the animation stuff, and let's get on with it. I'm getting hungry on animating :)
BTW. I made the Wraith attack :) He's sort of nice. I just LOVE that guy! If you want to see him, post it, but YOU HAVE TO POST YOUR EMAIL, or I won't send it. Cause I don't know them. :P I'll post the Wraith's spellcast animation with it.
Psy, You can go and add escape in the MsgProc function in the main.cpp. The key is "VK_ESCAPE". Just do a "case VK_ESCAPE: bRunning = FALSE; return 0;" Also, I fixed the problem with the register function, so that works now. I was only resizing the Objects vector, but not the magic_numbers vector. Ill email you a copy of system.cpp and system.h to get you up to speed when i get a chance. I also implemented that GetObjectPointer function, and it sorta works now (you dont get the object pointer at the moment, but it checks to make sure that it is a DLL that wants it.
I have pretty much decided that each module will be in a separate dll (so there will be a "Map.DLL", and a "Sound.DLL", etc), and the main game logic will be in "Game.DLL". this should make it easier for mod makers, etc. Then, the main becomes a simple entry point for the game.DLL. It just initializes stuff.
Igor, sorry about the animation stuff. Its on the list of stuff to do. I have to write a tool for it, and it wont be the easiest thing in the world to work with, but i will try to get on that ASAP. Definately keep the cape, but I would make it the same color as the mage's robe, or at least a shade of the color.
Sas, Jorj, where are you guys?
Z.
Don't worry, I'm here.
Took a little vacation on the weekend, sorry I didn't post it, but now I'm here- everything is looking great. It seems as if we are getting going with the engine, and your new terrain idea seems to be great (does it give a performance hit?).
Also, on my vacation I took a snap of the parliament building in Ottawa, and I have some cathedral pics as well I'm working on as bases for the building models. I've restricted my buildings to 300 triangles, manually backface-culled, and I'm starting work on high definition ones, and I hope to be able to import some bump-maps when VRML 3.0 gets here (god when will it arrive!?) to add some detail to the otherwise bland buildings.
Oh and Igor, does 3DSMAX come with an erosion feature, or something that adds random bumpmaps? (such as stucco, wood, chainlink, etc.) My buildings might benefit from that.
Alright, as of right now I am starting work on the VRML town square, level 1 of the Swarm CIV. There are, I believe, 5 levels for each civ. This means a lot of modelling ;) C-bomb, you mentioned earlier you were good at buildings, this is a time that I could use some help, if you know what I mean >=)
That's right the mage does look like the one I designed. If you think that it looks better without any eye like the Lord of the Rings ringwraiths im ok with it.........no hair if no eyes one thing does not go with out the other...
Yes, Norman, I agree. But I might want some eyes...it looks kind of cool :) But It might take some polys too much so I think we'll have to skip it :(
Ehe...Sas, about the bumpstuff. I have'nt looked too much on the material editor. That makes me temporarily unabled to answer that question. However, my book should explain some(or rather a lot) about that, so don't worry, I'll find out soon enhough. I hope. I can also model some buildings until I get some more drawings from Norman.
I've got a new class this year where I learn the structure of classical compositions. With this, I might compose music after real Bach-style or from the Dark-age :) Closing in(the weekend) is the time when I'll reinstall my computer, insert another 30 Gigs and get my midi drivers back. So then, I'll be able to give you a sample of what I can do. Don't know, just mentioned it. How's the AI doing? Have'nt heard from that in a while...
Oh, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Sastraxi!!! Hope you had a happy day! ;)
Hehe, thanks Igor.
I think that I can manage to do all of the buildings, except for the town square ones. I'm trying to do arcanum and swarm, you guys can do some of the other ones (seen in the ToWMAP program by Jorj, see the ToW Story thread)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SAS MAN !
I have started building a simple farmhouse model, to use to test building placement on the map. Ill post a screen shot later.
Z.
Of everything u could do, u pick a farm house :D LOL
The farmhouse will probably be one of the more compilcated models, if we are going to support growing things =P.
Z.
Just had to do it, reply 1000 in this thread. =P.
Z.
Yes we are, you'd know these things if THE DESIGN DOCUMENT DIDNT KEEP GETTING DELETED. grrrrrrrrrr.........
Hehe, this is a whopper. Zaei, why can't you use one of my models? All you need to do is open up your friendly copy of 3dsmax, import it and export it as an .X file... oops, I guess you can't do that :D.
I'm also making some variants of the houses and stuff (planning them anyways).
Are the Town Squares the only building that's gonna look different? If so, how should they look like? I'm not really into each Civ and they're life, so...should it be a medieval castle, maby a fortress? Or...OH I dunno! Please inform me, and I'll do :)
Tree. 163 triangles.
Z.
Sas, 3ds certainly does bump mapping and you can apply pretty much any kinda map ya want....noise...clouds...blah blah blah. I'm not sure how it would export tho...*shrug*
Here is a pic of the archer as he currently is....and btw im WAYYYY over poly on this guy.
Right now I'm trying to find some time to update the website, I've finally decided on doing my ASP version, it will take about a week to finalize that. Then I have to find a host... On it will be unit lists, buildings lists, more art, more concept art, etc.
Here is some concept art from me (actually coloured!!!):
That was the lizard champion, here is a lizard warrior.
Here is (my favourite) a swordsmaster:
Cbomb.
About that archer. Take a look at his legs. He now sort of looks as if his body was a matchbox and his legs two of the matches :p. I don't mean to critisize you, however, try to make his crouch a bit smaller. No, not a bit. VERY much smaller. As if it was no actual space there at all. When making a humanoid looking model, it's often a good advice to just take a look at yourself. What are your proportions? How long are your arms compared to your legs? How long is your neck? When you come to the crouch, you'll find out you aint got any space at all between your legs. At least I dont...You might also wanna use a ruler to measure yourself. That way, you'll get an idea how wide, tall, and thick every part of the body should be to look natural.
That is also a very good advice when it comes to stuff like animation. How fast are your arm actually moving? Try counting seconds when doing things like raising your arm and waving. All of that is very important. I don't know if you have any experience with animating.
All in all, my point is to make it look as natural and realistic as possible. Thick tighs, Flat feet (Now fat boxes), etx. No rash moves and sudden turns without a good reason. Make it...Smooth. Smooth movement is niice :). But my main complaint is the one listed on the top. Make the upper parts of his lages a bit thicker. Or rather...much thicker.
Hey, by the way, I would really like to see it. Could'nt you just upload your file? Please?
Igor your so mean :p
The archer looks good, except the cylinder a a head :D
The drawings look ph phat and the tree is lol :D
Some good work guys.
Sorry, I don't wanna seem mean. Just giving advice from previous experiences :). Another thing is the way he stands. Here's some GOOD piece of advice:
When you build him, build him exactly like this:
This is the best position, or the only påosition that are any good. 3DSMAX has something neat called 'Bones', or Inverse Kinematics. We'll use that when we move on the figure(I don't know if you allready knew that, so I wrote it). When you bend his arm, his arms get a bit...messed up. That's why you should just make the stand right out to the sides so that they're easy to manipulate and they will for sure look the way they look when we use the character.Code:0
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Please, don't look at me like some ******* bragging about what I'm good at (which I think I'm NOT, by the way). I just get very excited because all of a sudden, I see the opportunity of learning away for a change. This makes me really excited, you see. :p. Just tell me when enhough is enhough, and I'll stop. Anyways, I just hope what I wrote will be of good help to you. AND...just one more thing. His head is a cylinder, right?. That takes up a lot of your polys... If you haven't you should really read those tutorials added with 3DS MAX 4. They will learn you a lot of helpful techniques. OK? Now, I'm gonna help my little sister with her homework (She's 8 :p). We're gonna make a paperplain(or whatever you may call it).
Tata for now!
OK ill hit stuff 1 by 1...
Ill work on the proportion size stuff...
When I do bones it gets screwed up very fast lol
And any kind of input is cool with me...
heres the MAX file... (next reply actually)
Just unzip it...
Ok, I can see what you've been doing. First things first...You don't need THAT many polys on neither the body, head, legs or arms. Or even the bow :p. Cut down cut down dut down.
But how did you make the cape? You have some sort of clothing plug-in or something? Anyways, the cape takes up a LOT of polys, it seems. That is some sort of...N/A. If you know what I mean. However, it might come incredbly in handy if we're making movie clips or anyting for this game. Are we, Sas?
The bones structure and setup is actually quite easy. No, not just if you get a hang of it, but it's actually quite easy. Read the tutorial followed with 3DS MAX (Under Character Animation). It's incredible how easy it actually are.
Oh yes, we are indeed. >=)
I was having some fun, and modified the engine to play on the star menu, where your buttons are... Its... interesting =).
Z.
...Start menu??!??!?!
Post a screenshot NOW! >=)
Zaei's magic Start Menu!
Z.
Oh I thought you meant the START MENU, as in Start->Programs->Applications...
Unfortunatly, I dont know a way to get the hWnd of a menu, otherwise, i would have dont that =P.
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I have also stuck the game on the Start Button, for the record.
Well, it's vacation time for me again. We will be leaving in a few hours, and I will be gone until sunday. As always, I will try to get some work done, but I probably wont. Anyway, see you all later.
Z.
Alright then... see you Sunday Zaei :/
Igor - I'm so used to using a ton of polys, I usually do this for video effects. Its a bad habit lol. The Cape is a NUBRS Point suface (or something named like that hehe.) I can set up the bones alright, but then I go to link the system to the mesh with a munch of "Mesh Selects" (+ soft select) and "XForms" but then you move a bone and the whole thing is all messed up. But the bones move like they should...lol
Zaei - Thats just creepy. lol