Windows 11 coming soon

What I really wanted to get rid and I did, is from the messages that Windows pops up from the right side.
They are very annoying. You are concentrate programming and Windows interrupts to say some unimportant, silly thing.

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Originally Posted by Eduardo-

What I really wanted to get rid and I did, is from the messages that Windows pops up from the right side.
They are very annoying. You are concentrate programming and Windows interrupts to say some unimportant, silly thing.

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You mean the VBForm websie, right when you wish to use the width of the screen, but then it makes a silly adverts and stuff like that one, hey

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Originally Posted by ThEiMp

You mean the VBForm websie, right when you wish to use the width of the screen, but then it makes a silly adverts and stuff like that one, hey

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Oh right, the Action Centre, yeah i know that stuff is like that, even so

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Originally Posted by Eduardo-

What I really wanted to get rid and I did, is from the messages that Windows pops up from the right side.
They are very annoying. You are concentrate programming and Windows interrupts to say some unimportant, silly thing.

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There are options under the right mouse button.
Here can specify what type of actions give an alert.

I can't seem to get my focus right out for the working daytime, even so. It looks like sleeping or some what unfocused when i work early in the morning, even

Even then, now or never, stay on topic please, even

I meant the focus on the action centre of the Windows 10 platform, it keeps on reading me as unfocused

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Originally Posted by Arnoutdv

There are options under the right mouse button.
Here can specify what type of actions give an alert.

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I disabled them a long time ago when I started using Windows 10. I'm not sure if that shortcut was there at the time.

I wrote my very own OS using VB6 and then it works better, than Windows 7.0a, even like that one

Maybe you wrote a shell, but you didn't write an OS.

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Originally Posted by dilettante

We saw the same myth pop up two years ago, and from the same nefarious sources.

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You are the last person in the world that should make negative comments about a link with all that garbage you post :rolleyes:

Here is another "leak":

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/new...-event-2464991

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Originally Posted by Arnoutdv

Maybe you wrote a shell, but you didn't write an OS.

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Actually about 85% of my work on it, was shelling commands and then pulling Controls out of thin air, so to speak. The weight of my OS app is about 13.8Mb in file size, even so. How about that one

If you want to download the beta ISO of Windows 11
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You could install it in a VM

it might pull a Windows 9.00 on ya, so then be dangerously aware of the ISO

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Originally Posted by Thierry69

If you want to download the beta ISO of Windows 11
You could install it in a VM

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Not sure why you are sharing a URL to what looks like an unofficial copy of the beta when anyone running Windows 10 (even in a VM) can just opt into the Insider Preview and get a completely legitimate installation.

About Windows 9.00 I heard so many bad comments about the beta testing of the product's beta testing ISO, so then just had to say it out now

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Originally Posted by wqweto

https://www.voidtools.com/ - I've been using Everything for searching for everything on my disks for quite some time now and it's such a joy.

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The Windows search is well known for not being able to find the file that is staring you right in the face. You can see the file in the current folder but a Windows search may find nothing that matches...Most strange. On my SSD systems I disable Windows Search and Cortana immediately.

'Everything' is a joy to use, agreed. I always switch off the windows search utility as it is unreliable, it is continuously indexing, using up valuable and sometimes heavy i/o and cpu, it recreates its own index which is strange as NTFS already has its own index, which 'everything' in fact uses for its own instant search. I assume that Windows had to do this in order to search filesystem types that don't have an accessible index or perhaps they realise they would have to write similar code for each and every filesystem type. Regardless now, my own systems only use NTFS drives so the Windows search is redundant whilst 'everything' is present.

With the classic start menu you can type NOT into the run box and the results for notepad will pop up immediately for start menu applications, Windows search not required.

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I do not miss Windows search one bit and my systems are faster due to its absence.

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Originally Posted by Arnoutdv

Maybe you wrote a shell, but you didn't write an OS.

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It is easy enough to write a Disc Operating System with a GUI. Well, it is definitely well within the capabilities of one man. I wrote one for the Sinclair Spectrum 48k. It was a clone of DOS and I named it OS-2. Shortly afterwards another company came and took the name, I didn't argue the toss.

This isn't it! Mine had a small stub shell and was a command line o/s, this is SymbOS an o/s for the Amstrad CPC, on a z80!

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So, it CAN be done.

Did I mention somewhere that you can't write an OS??
Of course the first OSes were created by individuals. Like CPM and DOS,
The first versions of Minix and Linux were also created by single persons

I wrote that TheImp didn't not write an OS with VB6, it's maybe shell which depends on the current running OS.

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Did I mention somewhere that you can't write an OS??
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Yes, you did in your reply but I missed the bit where TheImp said he wrote it in VB6. So, I agree, that would be rather difficult considering the runtime and the APIs &c &c.

However, I DID write my o/s in BASIC as it was the only language available and the system booted into BASIC as the shell. My disc OS was then really a non-bootable command line UI to Spectrum BASIC.

It was partially programmed using machine code and the intention was there to write the whole lot in m/c too but that project was never completed. To all intents and purposes though it was a DOS as Spectrum BASIC had no equivalent disc i/o and my OS-2 provided that (along with some custom hardware).

And not just the earliest oses are written by one man, Terry Davis is proof of that.

We have deviated to our earliest OS creations when the title of the thread is the latest OS creation. Oops, sorry.

Still I'd like to see The Imp's shell - "even so".

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Originally Posted by dilettante

With the Search box turned off you can still click the "Start" button (or bash the Windows key) and begin typing to search. No need to take up TaskBar space.

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Really? For some reason I was thinking that did not work when it was hidden. I seem to remember being on a customers pc and had to use Win+R to get the run dialog up and either could not get the search dialog to come up or it was not working the way it does on others. Could be something else was going on with that system I suppose.

Now I am wanting to test it cause it does indeed take up a bit of space. I do not see an option to turn it off under taskbar settings. When do you access this option?

I still do not like the way they have all the settings ( or lack thereof ) laid out in Windows 10.

Ok I found it now. Interesting when hidden the search box does not appear when you hit the Win key but it does respond to whatever you type after hitting the win key you just do not see the search box nor any indication of its presence until you start typing. I wasn't aware of that.

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Originally Posted by yereverluvinuncleber

Yes, you did in your reply but I missed the bit where TheImp said he wrote it in VB6. So, I agree, that would be rather difficult considering the runtime and the APIs &c &c.
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I said

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Maybe you wrote a shell, but you didn't write an OS

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I explicitly said "you", referring to TheImp..
Never said that an OS can't be created/written by a single other person

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Originally Posted by Arnoutdv

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We know what you said, and I said what I said, and he said what he said, you asked a question and I answered it, when does this ever end?

By the way, I said the above. This forum...

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Originally Posted by Eduardo-

It works for me, but I use it only to start programs, not for anything else.

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Same here it is much faster and easier to locate and launch a program than trying to locate it in the start menu. I have also turned off any cortana features that I could. I set the search box to hidden now, hopefully I will remember to hit the win key next time I want to use it ;)

Glad you found it. Hope you remember how to turn it back on if you change your mind. ;)

I kicked Cortana to the curb long ago, but I have Alexa installed instead. You might be surprised how many things it supports for home automation via devices on your network, music streaming services, etc.

if you want to see my OS built app, please PM your email address to me, then I could send you the source code of my OS app, then

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Originally Posted by ThEiMp

if you want to see my OS built app, please PM your email address to me, then I could send you the source code of my OS app, then

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Just so you know and OS is software that you can install on a system that has nothing on it. It is not something that installs under Windows like programs built in VB6 do.

As mentioned earlier if you wrote something then it is most likely some kind of shell that runs on top of windows.

I am trying to write new runtime files, because that then would make it a free running version of my OS app, then so

Well gosh, maybe you need to make a Facebook page or start a chat group to get more support.

That might be right, then so

A friend of mine downloaded Windows 11 and used it to upgrade an existing Windows 10 virtual machine. He didn't try installing the VB IDE from scratch but it ran just fine after the upgrade. VB programs compile and execute just fine too. No issues noted so far.

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So far, but then what about the down the track, of the life of Visual Basic

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Originally Posted by Darkbob

A friend of mine downloaded Windows 11 and used it to upgrade an existing Windows 10 virtual machine. He didn't try installing the VB IDE from scratch but it ran just fine after the upgrade. VB programs compile and execute just fine too. No issues noted so far.

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We did something similar because some of our third party software was 32 bit. We installed a Windows 7 virtual machine on a Windows 10 machine so we could compile on the 32 bit but still push out to 64 bit.

All in all, the Visual Basic IDE will then continue to work under the Windows OS branded Operating System, hey

Here is another link about it:

https://www.xda-developers.com/windo...es-in-preview/

It claims it will be officially announced on the 24th.

Works Perfect!!! 100% full work!!

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-- Oh dear???

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Originally Posted by ThEiMp

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Last few posts remind me of

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Originally Posted by this story. . .

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When I was leaving Montreal, I decided to stop at one of those rest areas on the side of the road.

I go into the washroom. The first stall is taken, so I go into the second stall. I had just sat down when I heard a voice from the other stall…

- Hi there, how is it going?

I'm thinking to myself, what the hell? Okay, I am not the type to strike up conversations with strangers in the loos on the side of the road. I didn't know what to say, so finally I say:

-Not bad…

Then the voice says:

- So, what are you doing?

I am starting to find this a bit weird and very uncomfortable, but I finally reply with:

- Well, I'm going back east…

Then I hear the person, all flustered, say:

- Look, I'll call you back honey--every time I ask you a question this idiot in the next stall keeps answering me!

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cheers,
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Omg lol

https://www.vbforums.com/showthread....Windows-11-YES

Another link...

Great

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Great

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Glad you like them:

Thanks dude

It was announced yesterday. It won't "really" be out until the end of the year:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11

Microsoft has a tendency to produce a dud on alternate OS versions. Will 11 be better than 8, worse, or better than 10?

Personally I'd have said 8 and 10 were both duds. I do not see 11 shaping up to be a dud-killer. It looks to be more of a refinement of a strategy toward tablet-centric computing and a marketing refresh to let people know Microsoft Windows is still there.

I don't see many saying I really want what Windows 8 offered and I am sure we will hear a similar lack of nostalgia for Win10.

I'm very surprised to see this, but so far everything about it seems to confirm that it's a rewarmed Windows 10X concept.

In particular it appears to be designed to help "clear the decks" of older hardware, raising requirements and forcing time to buy more on consumers.

I have tried the evaluation tool on several machines now. Some get rejected by the Installer package ("unsupported CPU hardware"), some get rejected as having inadequate RAM, boot drive space, boot drive type (eMMC-based mini-PCs seem to be cast on the dung heap), video card, or even monitor size. Even the lack of binding to a Microsoft Account or an Internet connection disqualifies a machine.

If people thought Vista held a candle to the suckage of Windows Me... they ain't seen nuthin' yet!

The response to those computer people around me is extremely negative with regard to the hardware requirements. Most are along the line of "I bought a top end machine 2-3 years ago, I spent a lot of money on it and I'm not planning to buy another for the next 3-5 years." and "it's crazy to tell your user base they'll need to buy a new machine for an upgrade to an OS!"

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The response to those computer people around me is extremely negative with regard to the hardware requirements. Most are along the line of "I bought a top end machine 2-3 years ago, I spent a lot of money on it and I'm not planning to buy another for the next 3-5 years." and "it's crazy to tell your user base they'll need to buy a new machine for an upgrade to an OS!"

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So a Celeron is on the supported list and I am fairly sure that wasn't considered a top end machine in the last 2 - 3 years, quite frankly I doubt it was considered top in the last 2 - 3 decades.

Sorry? That seems a bit non sequitur. I think you missed the gist of what I was quoting from someone else.

He was saying he just spent a lot of cash on a machine and doesn't expect to not be able to upgrade it to a new os having spent that cash. Have I explained enough now?

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Originally Posted by PlausiblyDamp

So a Celeron is on the supported list and I am fairly sure that wasn't considered a top end machine in the last 2 - 3 years, quite frankly I doubt it was considered top in the last 2 - 3 decades.

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I think you're mistaken.

They recycled that brand name a few years ago, they aren't talking about the earlier Celeron product line.

They probably should have called it "Azure Terminal with Gaming" rather than "Windows 11."

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Originally Posted by dilettante

I'm very surprised to see this, but so far everything about it seems to confirm that it's a rewarmed Windows 10X concept.

In particular it appears to be designed to help "clear the decks" of older hardware, raising requirements and forcing time to buy more on consumers.

I have tried the evaluation tool on several machines now. Some get rejected by the Installer package ("unsupported CPU hardware"), some get rejected as having inadequate RAM, boot drive space, boot drive type (eMMC-based mini-PCs seem to be cast on the dung heap), video card, or even monitor size. Even the lack of binding to a Microsoft Account or an Internet connection disqualifies a machine.

If people thought Vista held a candle to the suckage of Windows Me... they ain't seen nuthin' yet!

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turn on xxx for hardware security in BIOS to get through the test if "unsupported CPU hardware", I heard from someone.

Edited: I go back of that web page, it called TPM state or fTPM in Advanced or Security options.

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Originally Posted by DaveDavis

turn on xxx for hardware security in BIOS to get through the test if "unsupported CPU hardware", I heard from someone.

Edited: I go back of that web page, it called TPM state or fTPM in Advanced or Security options.

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I have downloaded "PC Health Check" app, it indicated my Acer TravelMate P214 can't support Win11 due to TPM 2.0 is disabled, then I go to BIOS, I see the TPM state is disable, but I can't move cursor to turn on. I go to acer website to download and install new BIOS Z8I from version V1.05 to V1.27 (updated on June-21-2021), then Run "PC Health Check" app again, now it says "This PC can run Windows 11"!

This prompted me to take a quick look around at currently available systems I might replace some by in order to support "Windows 11."

Wow, there sure is a lot of crap out there now. I don't ask for much, but I still want a couple of exposed full-width horizontal drive bays, at least one with a DVD or BD drive and a second one open for new hardware, and at least one 3.5" floppy sized to mount a multi-card socket for memory cards or perhaps a good old LS-120 SuperDrive.

Seems rare these days. Most seem to be sealed limited boxes now until you get into absurd power hungry "gaming rigs" or shabby DIY cases. But hey, no shortage of parasitic LED lighting enough to rival a Christmas tree. I guess they know their market: people are getting dumber. We're living in Idiocracy times (clips here).

Gee whizz, it sounds like windows 11 is real. i just found an email from a mate, about windows 11, then so

then so?