Multi-Billion Dollar Idea

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Originally Posted by Jacob Roman

Just thought of another multibillion dollar idea. What is the one technology we dont have in high definition yet in our digital age? Can you guess? Phones. Our phone calls are still sounding like complete garbage. Half the time you cant understand the person unless they are speaking directly into the mic of the phone. HD phones should be a thing while phone lines disappear. With our wireless technology you shouldnt even need lines at all. All you need is internet. The calls should sound crystal clear. Not garbled garbage. If they can make radio HD anything should be possible. So I should help shape this technology. Even speaker phone which sounds even worse should be changed.

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Spoken like a true flat lander.

Take a look at phone coverage maps. Do you see those big empty spaces in the mountain west? That's where I live. This state has no cell coverage in large areas. Internet is...bizarre. We get AWESOME connectivity at a fish trap that is the last building on a long road up a valley. Meanwhile, the nearest towns have miserable connection rates. So, while there is no cell service at all, the internet service via DSL is terrific. In the neighboring towns, the internet service is mediocre, while cell service...was added to one place just a couple years back. Prior to that cell tower, there were't even many land lines into that town, so it wasn't uncommon to get the message, "no lines available, try again later." When trying to call in or out.

A couple years back, I did a longish hike in NH. At the end, my sister was going to climb a mountain and meet me near the top. We had a hard time coordinating that, because, while I had good service on the mountain, she had none until she was part way up the mountain. That's in a fairly well populated, but not particularly flat, part of the country. I was back there a few weeks ago, and was surprised at how poor and spotty the cell service was. Hills means you need more towers to get blanket coverage. Zoning means that getting more towers is mighty hard to do.

Once Google gets it's fleet of blimps up there, your idea will have more merit.

Dont worry. By that time, internet will be in the middle of the desert as well as in the mountains and the most rural areas. Internet will be everywhere. Might as well produce a whole mess of internet in the middle of the ocean! The world will be all high definition phones, with VR websites taking you to so many different realities. Ad revenue will pour in like M&Ms off a waterfall :bigyello:

When Elon Musk will be done deploying the 12000 satellites, the entire planet will have internet, and high quality phone calls as a result

Solar Powered Washing Lines.

Bound to be a hit.

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Originally Posted by FunkyDexter

Solar Powered Washing Lines.

Bound to be a hit.

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I heard that line before. I think the idea is a bit washed up though.

-tg

I've also considered patenting reversible under-crackers...

I remember using a wind powered washing line. It got interesting in the winter. You had to arrange the wash just right in the basket, because when it was well below 0 (F), it would be freezing before you could hang it. That motivated some quick work.

Then, if you wanted to get some clothes, you could pry them off the line and stack them like lumber. You'd bring in just what you needed and hang them over the stove to dry out.

Still worked, though. You might say that drying clothes on a line at those temperatures was a sublime experience.

Do you live in Yorkshire?





Edit> that might not travel well outside of the UK. Not sure.

No, but I used to live beside Peterborough. Of course, it's not the Peterborough over there. We just swiped the name. Ours may now be a bit more famous, though not under it's true name.

I have no idea what the Yorkshire reference is about, though.

5G is coming. 5Ge is already here but its a inbetween speed and not true 5G

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

5G is coming. 5Ge is already here but its a inbetween speed and not true 5G

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You just gave me another Multibillion Dollar idea. 6G!!!

5G is old tech technically. All it is, is the same thing the military uses for crowd control. Not to mention it has dangerous health effects to the public. It rapidly increases your chance of getting cancer, it makes men impotent, it makes women no longer fertile, and gives you headaches. Not to mention they have to make a billion of these boxes because the frequencies are so weak, that they have to make em 2 blocks apart from one another across the entire planet. Its like having your house next to a cell phone tower. No wonder the phone companies and the FCC allowed this without any testing and is rushing this thing out.

6G will go back to its roots. And will be in the Terahertz! Instead of cell phone towers or stupid boxes every 2 blocks, it will be far far away from the public. As in, it will be coming from Satellites! No longer will people worry about the harmful radiation, and effects of 5G. Not to mention high definition phones will finally be a thing. And it will reach rural and mountainous areas due to the fact it is now coming from satellites. This will not only make me billions, but potentially trillions! I should get a Nobel Peace Prize for this for saving the planet that was almost dead from the effects of 5G!!!

Just having a higher frequency, it does not mean it's faster. You can transmit more data, but the higher the frequency the more interference you get, and therefore shorter distance.

Going a little bit Sci-Fi here; but in theory there HAS to be a better / faster way of communication. I'm thinking quantum entanglement

Explain this quantum entanglement :ehh:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

If you could actually transmit information using quantum entanglement, it would theoretically provide faster-than-light - instantaneous - communication across any distance, even billions of light years.

Unhackable, too, as there would be no middle to be the man in.

I was under the impression that something like this is being tried between ground and satellite.

From what I understand (and I'm clearly a genius level quantum physicist so you can trust me) the uncertainty principle basically precludes communication via entanglement. Basically, because observing one property precludes observing another, we can't actually formulate meaning into a message. I saw a program about it years back and won't pretend to have properly understood it (or even vaguely understood it, for that matter) but I'm 100% certain of my facts after a few beers.

I believe that is wrong, and I'm clearly as knowledgeable about the subject as you, so, therefore I am eminently qualified to pontificate on the subject.

As I understand it, what you can measure is spin. For entangled particles, one has an up spin and the other a down spin. If you flip one, the other flips, which means that you can send a binary signal by flipping the spins.

I didn't think it was possible because I didn't think that a quantum entangled state could be maintained for any meaningful length of time, but I feel fairly certain that I read that some Asian country (I forget which one, though China and Japan seem likely) was trying out such a communication between ground and a satellite....though whether or not it worked is a different matter.

Ah, but, bringing my undoubted body of knowledge to the table, the uncertainty principle says that observing one property precludes us from observing another. If I remember right, and clearly I do because it's 8AM here so I'm already drunk, spin was one such property. Observing it meant we lost the ability to observe a related property (position, if I remember right) that would allow us to associated it with the particle it was entangled to. I'm probably talking rubbish though.

By the way, I thought entanglement was a permanent state engendered at the time the particles originally separated so wouldn't need to be maintained.

I thought uncertainty was that you could know the location or the speed, but not both.

Well, I'll freely admit that, despite my encyclopaedic and entirely accurate knowledge on this:rolleyes:, I haven't really paid much attention for years so everything's dimly remembered and even back then I was picking it up mainly from pop sources and often without any true understanding. My opinion on the communication thing not working comes from a very dimly remembered pop science program I watched where they were talking about the theory and deconstructing it. 1. Chances are I misunderstood a lot of it back then, 2. chances are I'm misremembering it now and 3. Chances are science has moved on since then anyway. You shouldn't so much take what I'm saying with a pinch of salt as buy an industrial de-salinization plant.

But I thought uncertainty applied to a bunch of different properties. Position and speed were certainly a pair I remember but I think there were all sorts of pairings it applied to. I'm very open to being wrong on this though.

I would dig out some of the books I was reading back to check then but I went on a minimalist binge a couple of years ago and got rid of them all.

Hey what about Elon Musks satellite based internet which he is already launching?

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Originally Posted by FunkyDexter

Well, I'll freely admit that, despite my encyclopaedic and entirely accurate knowledge on this:rolleyes:, I haven't really paid much attention for years so everything's dimly remembered and even back then I was picking it up mainly from pop sources and often without any true understanding. My opinion on the communication thing not working comes from a very dimly remembered pop science program I watched where they were talking about the theory and deconstructing it. 1. Chances are I misunderstood a lot of it back then, 2. chances are I'm misremembering it now and 3. Chances are science has moved on since then anyway. You shouldn't so much take what I'm saying with a pinch of salt as buy an industrial de-salinization plant.

But I thought uncertainty applied to a bunch of different properties. Position and speed were certainly a pair I remember but I think there were all sorts of pairings it applied to. I'm very open to being wrong on this though.

I would dig out some of the books I was reading back to check then but I went on a minimalist binge a couple of years ago and got rid of them all.

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To be fair, I thought it wasn't possible either, I just had a different reason why not. My vague memory is that I read somewhere, almost certainly in a periodical more reliable than my memory of the article) that somebody was trying it. Will it work? Am I making this up? I have no idea.

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

Hey what about Elon Musks satellite based internet which he is already launching?

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I was living in a place where satellite based internet was the only option. It pretty much sucked, too. The download speeds were mediocre, the upload speeds were atrocious. One would assume that Elon Musk would do something about the download speeds, but I'm not sure how much he can do about the upload speeds. It's not enough just to get cat videos at a good rate, we also need to be able to upload cat videos at an acceptable rate....or else, what's the point?

Lets get back to dclamp's idea, but change it to quantum teleportation, where your conscious mind is teleported to a station where it's programmed into a clone. :bigyello:

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After a person's conscious mind has been teleported to a clone, the sending station would then place the body there on life support, provide physical therapy for it's muscles, and other medical services normally provided to coma patients for the duration of this transfer. To maintain both bodies, the teleportee needs to teleport their conscious mind every 7 days. The teleportee is authorized up to 2 clones, where the longest a body then will be on life support would be 14 days. Only asteroid miners, or people needing to work extremely far from Earth would be allowed to have or use clones. Clones will be of the same sex of the original, but may not be a copy of teleportee unless they're a frequent traveler in high demand. Use of a clone not of themselves will be contantly monitored for the duration of their visit to avoid abuse of it's integrity.

An employees contract to use a teleporter will require that this employee help maintain a clone by visiting it so it's not on life support longer than 14 days. Breaking this contract will void their employment if it's not due to health reasons or some other serious personal issues.

No 2 or 3 bodies (original, clones) are allowed to function normal at the same time for the same person, so the teleportation station has to place the body there on life support. Incase of an emergency, the teleportee will be notified to report to a teleporter to transfer their conscious mind to where it's needed (to a clone). The original body will be revived if an emergency is at it's location, and the cloned used is ordered to report to a teleportation station to be placed on life support unless their work at their location is too important for it to be interrupted during the duration of their visit.

The conscious mind transfered from the original are only copies, but clones will always be blank slates to be filled or erased. Sending stations of the original teleportee's body's conscious mind can't erase them, or edited, so what happens on mining colony 6, stays on mining colony 6, but a person will still get credit for there job there.

Important: Book publishers, film studios, Jacob Roman :wave:, you're not allowed to film or publish my teleportation idea unless you give me credit and pay me and my family. 25% of book profits, and a couple of million dollars up front from film studios for my teleportation idea, which includes 5% of worldwide profits. :bigyello:

No one can bring up or experiment with this idea (including you Jacob :wave:), unless I recieve credit. Any profits, personal earnings from this idea by scientists, big tech firms, Jacob, anyone else, will be split with me by 50%.

50% of magazine deals will be paid to me, including credit to this idea. The above idea can't be published anywhere unless I recieve credit!

No experimentation or publication of this idea is allowed unless my idea is referenced as Peter's Tele-Porter, Alright! :cool:

50% of all profits of selling a physical station of my teleportation idea will be paid to me and my family for a thousand years!

25% of profits earned from maintenace of a teleporter station will be rewarded to me and my family for a thousand years.

By Peter's Tele-Porter means I own this idea of this form of teleportation, to include the programming of clones. By using my teleportation idea means you (scientists, tech firms, governments, Jacob Roman :wave:) are souly responsible for life support, failed teleportations, and abuse of and caused by clones. By using my teleportation idea, you wont hold me liable for anything that goes wrong with it, which also includes abuse to or caused by clones!

All of above is subject to change by me! :D

Sounds like an excellent movie theme. You can be the porter for a tele-peter.

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Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker

Sounds like an excellent movie theme. You can be the porter for a tele-peter.

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Hey, quantum repeaters for my teleporter idea will be called Tele-Peters! :p

Thanks, Shaggy!

Real molecular teleportation! BRILLIANT!!! And I ain't talking bout no quantum consciousness transfers either, I'm talking real life end of transportation as we know it. Just gotta watch out for them damn flies...

I'll make billions!!!

At the point we're copying our consciousness back and forward I see no reason why we'd continue to use conventional bodies at all. Any repository capable of carrying out the functions required for the current tenure would suffice and likely be superior. I see no reason that it would even need to be organic.

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Originally Posted by Jacob Roman

Real molecular teleportation! BRILLIANT!!! And I ain't talking bout no quantum consciousness transfers either, I'm talking real life end of transportation as we know it. Just gotta watch out for them damn flies...

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...and anything else that could interfer with the teleportation. Conscious teleportation would be the safest bet. Hell, this form of teleportation could lead to immortality to preserve skills and new knowledge an individual gained. So while you grow old on Earth, a copy of your conscious mind lives on. Hell, if there is a quantum link with your clone, after death you'll be waking up in a younger body.

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Originally Posted by FunkyDexter

At the point we're copying our consciousness back and forward I see no reason why we'd continue to use conventional bodies at all. Any repository capable of carrying out the functions required for the current tenure would suffice and likely be superior. I see no reason that it would even need to be organic.

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If cloning of full bodies is possible, I don't think anyone would do away with the human form. A person would just have to wait 18 or so years before they could use their copy.

I'll take a Terminator body and download my entire brain into it. Infinate life! Well as long as the battery lasts lol

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

I'll take a Terminator body and download my entire brain into it. Infinate life! Well as long as the battery lasts lol

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See this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqaAs_3azSs

I would never do that because I believe that the information in the brain gets copied to the machine, but not the consciousness. When the body dies, you die, you don't continue to live in the machine / computer.

I also believe we have a soul, and the soul (who you are) does not stay with your brains' information, it stays with the heart. So after you transfer your information into a machine, and you kill your body, that's when you die, and the information of your brain exists in the computer but it is soul-less / and without consciousness.

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Also, something to note. In the Matrix movie the body lives, and they get connected to a computer, that is different, because the body still lives.

I disagree, as when you get a heart transplant you dont lose your soul or consciousness. So that proves its all in the brain. Doing a brain transplant would be the ultimate as you can be transferred over to a younger healthier body

Just throwing it out there but head transplants are starting to become a thing https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...amp/3287179002

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I'll take a Terminator body and download my entire brain into it.

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Me too. If I can transfer my consciousness, why do I want to carry on using this wrinkled, squishy mess? I want frinkin' lasers!

BTW, I had that laser eye surgery but they don't work. No matter how hard I glare at my enemies they just don't explode.

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I also believe we have a soul, and the soul (who you are) does not stay with your brains' information, it stays with the heart

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How does that square with your idea of transferring your consciousness to a clone? Unless your transferring the soul as part of that you're still dying. And if you can transfer the soul to a clone then you can transfer it to a machine.

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Originally Posted by FunkyDexter

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I also believe we have a soul, and the soul (who you are) does not stay with your brains' information, it stays with the heart.

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How does that square with your idea of transferring your consciousness to a clone? Unless your transferring the soul as part of that you're still dying. And if you can transfer the soul to a clone then you can transfer it to a machine.

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Teleporting a person's conscious mind to a clone is my idea, Funky.

You'll see it if you scroll up or take the shortcut below:
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...=1#post5399567

Oh yeah, got confused. Blame my age...