I believe in love, but ...
Goodreams said
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Something earned... so this means some people don't deserve it? Like me perhaps...
I do not know about you, but yes, some people do not deserve to be loved.
SurfDemon said
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Say a man regularly beats his wife up, and she stays with him (not through fear, but because she loves him). Isn't that one of the ultimate expressions of love, yet it is not very palatable.
A heroin junky loves Heroin. He'll do anything for it.
A stalker "loves" the woman he rapes and kills, because he is so obsessed with her he can't let her be with anyone else.
All are definitions of love, where do you draw the line.
Yes, and pedophiles love little children. The above is irrational abnormal behavior. People who behave that way are neurotic, psychotic, or evil.
I draw the line at behavior which is damaging to physical health and a sense of being happy or feeling good about oneself. The physical damage part is easy to define. I admit the other part of my point of view is murky.
Behavior which damages physical health or allows it to happen to oneself is abnormal, irrational, evil, neurotic, psychotic, et cetera. I do not care if an entire culture believes in such behavior, it is still evil, psychotic, et cetera.
There were cultures that sacrificed the best and brightest teens on altars to some pagan god. There might be some valid argument for the Spartans who allowed sick or weak newborns to die of neglect, but killing the best and the brightest has got to be insane, because it is contrary to the long term survival of the culture. Of course in their perverted viewpoint, only the best and the brightest were good enough for god.
I have heard people say that it was normal behavior because that was the norm established by that culture. I say bulls**t! Normal for a culture can still be evil and psychotic by a higher standard. I am not referring to a god centered higher power, but a sense of what is logical, rational behavior for a human being.
Re: I believe in love, but ...
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Originally posted by Guv
Goodreams saidI do not know about you, but yes, some people do not deserve to be loved.
Meow...
I'm only seventeen. I think I deserve a bit, at least to die happy...
Re: I believe in love, but ...
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Originally posted by Guv
There were cultures that sacrificed the best and brightest teens on altars to some pagan god. There might be some valid argument for the Spartans who allowed sick or weak newborns to die of neglect, but killing the best and the brightest has got to be insane, because it is contrary to the long term survival of the culture. Of course in their perverted viewpoint, only the best and the brightest were good enough for god.
I always thought that sacrificing virgins was a great move by the guys. I mean to say, every girl in town is going to be banging away like a screen door in a storm so that nobody mistakes her for a virgin.
Pure genius. In fact, I think we should bring it back!
SD
Re: I believe in love, but ...
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Originally posted by Guv
I have heard people say that it was normal behavior because that was the norm established by that culture. I say bulls**t! Normal for a culture can still be evil and psychotic by a higher standard. I am not referring to a god centered higher power, but a sense of what is logical, rational behavior for a human being.
first of all, it is quite correct that the culture can effect human actions, and people would do things that might seems as non rational to us...
secondly, this thread is about love, and not height, weight or nothing else.
it seems that u all lost the main idea of this thread.
please GET TO THE POINT
I still want to get answers about LOVE
for example, i have recieved a private massage which sais
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"Love is that emotion in which someone else's happyness is essential to your own"
THIS IS THE TYPE OF ANSWERS I'D LIKE TO RECIEVE!!!
OK?
I've found having my daughter's friends read this very useful!
Rules for dating my daughter
Rule 1:
If you pull into my driveway and honk you'd better be delivering a
package, because you're sure not picking anything up.
Rule 2:
You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her,
so long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you cannot keep
your eyes or hands off of my daughter's body, I will remove them.
Rule 3:
I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys of your age to
wear their trousers so loosely that they appear to be falling off their
hips. Please don't take this as an insult, but you and all of your friends
are complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair and open minded about this
issue, so I propose this compromise: You may come to the door with your
underwear showing and you pants ten sizes too big, and I will not object.
However, in order to ensure that your clothes do not, in fact come off
during the course of your date with my daughter, I will take my electric
nail gun and fasten your trousers securely in place to your waist.
Rule 4:
I'm sure you've been told that in today's world, sex without
utilizing a "barrier method" of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate,
when it comes to sex, I am the barrier, and I will kill you.
Rule 5:
It is usually understood that in order for us to get to know each
other, we should talk about sports, politics, and other issues of the day.
Please do not do this. The only information I require from you is an
indication of when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my house,
and the only word I need from you on this subject is: early.
Rule 6:
I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with many opportunities to
date other girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay with my
daughter. Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will
continue to date no one but her until she is finished with you. If you make
her cry, I will make you cry.
Rule 7:
As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to appear,
and more than an hour goes by, do not sigh and fidget. If you want to be on
time for the movie, you should not be dating. My daughter is putting on her
makeup, a process that can take longer than painting the Golden Gate Bridge.
Instead of just standing there, why don't you do something useful, like
changing the oil in my car?
Rule 8:
The following places are not appropriate for a date with my daughter:
Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than a wooden stool.
Places where there is darkness
Places where there is dancing, holding hands, or happiness.
Places where the ambient temperature is warm enough to
induce my daughter to wear shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts, or anything
other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka zipped up to her throat.
Movies with a strong romantic or sexual theme are to be
avoided; movies which feature chain saws are okay. Hockey games are okay.
Old folks homes are better.
Rule 9:
Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a potbellied, balding,
middle-aged, dim-witted has been. But on issues relating to my daughter, I
am the all-knowing, merciless god of your universe. If I ask you where you
are going and with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth, the
whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and five
acres behind the house. Do not trifle with me.
Rule 10:
Be afraid. Be very afraid. It takes very little for me to mistake
the sound of your car in the driveway for a chopper coming in over a rice
paddy near Hanoi. When my Agent Orange starts acting up, the voices in my
head frequently tell me to clean the guns as I wait for you to bring my
daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveways you should exit the
car with both hands in plain sight. Speak the perimeter password, announce
in a clear voice that you have brought my daughter home safely and early,
then return to your car - there is no need for you to come inside. The
camouflaged face at the window is mine.
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Rules for dating my daughter
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