New SKUs and a Release Date for Visual Studio 2010

I've got a 128MB graphics card, which should be more than enough for WPF to be able to perform pretty well I would have thought

Mine is 512MB... Enough said, I hope! If that's not enough then people are going to need a gaming PC to run Visual Studio...

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Originally Posted by Cander

My experience with performance is that it loads really fast and runs slick as snot. :p

My specs:
Windows 7 64bit
https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/M...spx?ID=7366509

I would imagine having a better video card really helps since the UI uses WPF which is hardware accelerated.

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Your wish list is empty. Too bad, I was gonna buy it for you. :D

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

Your wish list is empty. Too bad, I was gonna buy it for you. :D

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Strange it is supposed to be public. Oh well. :eek2:

Ah required to be logged it. How lame. But still you dont have any saved lists. Ther eis almost 1,000 public saved lists though.

So how is everyone loving 2010 b2? :)

I love it so much I am having it's baby. :o

The new debugging features are great. You know when you hit a breakpoint and hover over something you get that stack trace? Well now you can pin it. Secks!

As long as you dont name your baby "Breakpoint" or something lol

I cant wait for the RTM though so I can install it on my production system without using a VM.

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

As long as you dont name your baby "Breakpoint" or something lol

I cant wait for the RTM though so I can install it on my production system without using a VM.

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I think I will name him My.Child.Son.Chris.Junior

I'm loving it as well... unlike others, I'm findng VS2010 loading faster than 2008 on the same machine.... running winXP SP3, 1G RAM dual processor.... so it's not a beefy machine by any means... but even when I remote into it, while running a Home Server backup process at the same time... VS10 still loads and runs faster than 2008 does.

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Namespace My.Child.Son.Chris
Public Class Junior
  Inherits My.Genetics
...
End Namespace

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;)


-tg

haha, I was trying to think of a way to fit "Inherits" into there but you beat me to it :P

i just hope the kid isn't generic.

That doesn't happen until you have two...

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Dim myBrood As List(Of Kids)

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Yip, loving the new Beta. Like Rob, would like to get it onto my work machine, so waiting patiently for the RTM :)

Gary

Only 5 more months for the RTM Gary :D

Woot Woot!! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FWJR1fNoGE

I PROMISE it isn't a Rick Roll, just very humorous :)

Gary

:woot: :lol: :thumb:

Some good stuff here on new features. Especially the Parallel stuff.

http://channel9.msdn.com/learn/courses/VS2010/

Hey,

Can't forget Scott's Blog as well:

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archi...-4-series.aspx

Gary

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Originally Posted by gep13

Hey,

Can't forget Scott's Blog as well:

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archi...-4-series.aspx

Gary

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:thumb::thumb: up for The Gu.

Yip, have to admit his blog is on my RSS feed :)

Lot's of useful information on there.

Something only a programmer could find funny. The new dynamic type is a static type.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...6(VS.100).aspx


:lol::lol:

They just created a type that is Late Bound that wont break Option Strict.

Yeah thats what I was thinking lol I guess its better than turning Option Strict off altogether :)

Maybe it would have been better to have some sort of casting that would do the same thing.
Just seems to me that Dynamic is a repackaged Variant

Option Strict should never be an option to turn off. There is always a way to do something.

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

Just seems to me that Dynamic is a repackaged Variant

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Not really. var infers a Strong Type. dynamic maintains itself as a dynamic type and is more useful for invoking functions from dynamic languages such as JavaScript or IronPython

You mean people actually use IronPython? :D

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You mean people actually use IronPython? :D

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Apparently. :eek:

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Originally Posted by Cander

Not really. var infers a Strong Type. dynamic maintains itself as a dynamic type and is more useful for invoking functions from dynamic languages such as JavaScript or IronPython

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Yes and no. Dynamic is more useful but its losely typed same as Variant. Its up to the programmer to make sure the object that will be casting will be of the expected type. Dynamic can bypass the Option Strict checking whereas Variant would require a casting to some defined type.

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

Yes and no. Dynamic is more useful but its losely typed same as Variant. Its up to the programmer to make sure the object that will be casting will be of the expected type. Dynamic can bypass the Option Strict checking whereas Variant would require a casting to some defined type.

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Are we talking 2 different vars here? I am referring to var in C# where var is implicitly inferred to it's strong type. Whereas VB 6's var is what it sounds you are referring to.

repackaged Variant = VB6 Variant

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Originally Posted by Cander

Apparently. :eek:

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Off Topic:

Have you used it Cander? Any good? I have read about it, but never actually done anything with it?

Gary

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

repackaged Variant = VB6 Variant

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Ok. Epic faceplam! :wave:

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Off Topic:

Have you used it Cander? Any good? I have read about it, but never actually done anything with it?

Gary

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Never had the call to try it. A friend of mine loves it, but he is one those dynamic language lovers who would sing it's praises no matter what. :ehh:

I do kinda like the python syntax though.

Hmm... so the variant type is back, what a surprise. Wasn't Object supposed to be the type that handles what Variant did back in vb6 and older?

Why is .Net becoming so loosely typed anyways? I mean Linq, now Variant... this is becoming sad.

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Originally Posted by JuggaloBrotha

Hmm... so the variant type is back, what a surprise. Wasn't Object supposed to be the type that handles what Variant did back in vb6 and older?

Why is .Net becoming so loosely typed anyways? I mean Linq, now Variant... this is becoming sad.

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LINQ isn't loosely typed. And as I said above dynamic is useful for invoking of dynamic language methods. It will simplify Reflection for those languages and COM Interop. dynamic tells the compiler not to resolve the object until runtime. This allows you to use a dynamic variable in a stronly typed way like accessing fields and methods with dot notation without the compiler bombing out when you try to compile your code. So you could tie a dynamic variable to a dynamic object and call a method from it like

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myDynamic.Method();

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If myDynamic was declared as Object it would not compile.

To get back on topic - I just received an email from MS suggesting that this fix might improve the startup speed of the WPF/Silverlight designer in VS 2010 BETA 2
http://blogs.msdn.com/ddperf/archive...10-beta-2.aspx

I havent had chance to test it yet as I rebuilt my PC with Windows 7 recently and havent reinstalled the BETA yet..