01) Have Juniper Media donate $30,000 as a tax write off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arty2000
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01) Have Juniper Media donate $30,000 as a tax write off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arty2000
What a truly terrible ordeal to go through. My prayers go out to Pete, Ana and his family and I hope her treatment goes smoothly.
Being a student my cash reserves are limited but I've donated $200 and I'll make sure to do so again when my student loan kicks in next month. I'm also going to contact a few website owners and should be able to get some front page announcements to help further the cause.
All the best,
Rob Jenks
For **** sake?! I do not want to sound ungrateful, but we've all lost people to cancer.
Where were you all when my grandfather was dying of cancer?
Where were you all when two of 1 month old brothers died of cot death?
Every one of us has lost people or is in the process of losing people. I'm very sorry that one particular Jupitermedia employee is losing a loved one - but so have us all!
So where's the global fund for the majority of people reading this thread - not the minor percentage of which are students with too much money to spend - but the rest of us trying to earn an honest wage with a loved one in bed dying?
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Students with too much money? $200 is every last drop of my student loan and would pay for over two months worth of food. I'm now in my overdraft and am officially bankrupt until the first of April. Think before you speak.
Of course there's a lot of suffering out there, and it happens to a lot of people, but to borrow a phrase the presence of a greater ill does not diminish the impact of the lesser. When (or possibly 'if') you donate money to charity you don't expect every other charitable organisation to come around complaining that they deserve money too do you? You have to pick your battles and I believe Pete and his family need help supporting Ana through such a difficult time.
If your contribution is going to be nothing more than angry outbursts then I suggest you don't bother at all. Just concentrate on looking after number one.
Hmmm, someone sounds angry :)Quote:
For **** sake?!
Then why did you bother posting?Quote:
I do not want to sound ungrateful,
Do you always make such huge assumptions? I haven't "lost people to cancer" and maybe I never will.Quote:
but we've all lost people to cancer.
I'm positive that at least one other person helped you in terms of your grandfather and brothers, regardless of whether you asked for it or not (e.g. nurses, doctors, relatives, friends.) The point is, additional help was available to you, it's just that you didn't create an effective environment / structure for others to assist you (e.g. set up a web site or lobby your local politician). And this causes you to still be angry. So, to answer your question "Where were you…" We were where you didn't look.Quote:
Where were you all when my grandfather was dying of cancer? Where were you all when two of 1 month old brothers died of cot death?
If you were "very sorry", then you would have at least provided some constructive information / help for Ana and possibly others that are in need (as opposed to your somewhat pointless post.)Quote:
Every one of us has lost people or is in the process of losing people. I'm very sorry that one particular Jupitermedia employee is losing a loved one - but so have us all!
You're not the smartest cookie in the jar, are you? There are plenty of global funds (e.g. Red Cross, Amnesty International etc).Quote:
So where's the global fund for the majority of people reading this thread
Another two assumptions... Tedious stuff, but certainly not surprising, coming from you :)Quote:
- not the minor percentage of which are students with too much money to spend -
"ear an honest wage"?Quote:
but the rest of us trying to ear an honest wage with a loved one in bed dying?
Did... Did you just say - Oh, that's gold!
Here's a tip for you, when you type something you might want to check it for errors and also reflect on the impact those words will have. This will often reduce the chances of you looking like a fool. Not that you are of course, but you seem to be very close.
Oh, and if you’re still upset about the situation regarding death and the lack of support (from your perspective)… Why don’t you do something about it?
Don’t bother replying… I already know the answer :)
You're missing the point. Not of all of us work for corporations that run large networks of websites that we can utilise to ask people for donations. Most people don't have that chance; he is merely pointing out the injustice of that fact - and I have to say, all things considered, I do agree with him. I'm afraid you're the one that looks like a fool for trying to dissect his post like a lawyer (and picking on his typing mistake... honestly).
And how would you know that? You're the one making assumptions: doing what you're trying to slate him for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arty2000
Yeah, and they're going to pay all of the medical expenses of everyone in the world that is ill? What a ridiculous load of nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arty2000
We're all sorry to hear that someone is ill. But really, show some common sense.
I think if I had a child who were dying and worked for a large corporation that run large networks of websites, I would utilise them too. Doing anything for your family and moreover your offspring is simply part of human nature ;)
Well that sure is an interesting response Penagate :)
You know, the title of the thread says - "Please Help Us To Save Ana"
It doesn't say - "Please Use This As A Soapbox If You've Got Issues With The Way The World Works."
I firmly believe that, in terms of this thread, if you're writing something and it doesn't help Ana...
Then don't bother posting.
So, Penagate, why don't you reply by sending this thread a list of 20 things we can do to help Ana.
Do you accept the challenge?
I know you can do it :)
Just make sure they're different to mine!
Cheers.
Looks like someone's too busy to accept challenges :)
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?t=452461
21) Start an ad campaign in a particular newspaper (hopefully one with readers that are in a medium to high-income bracket)
Something similar to the "Spread Firefox" campaign.
22) Design 'Ana' stickers.
Sell the stickers, or just make them freely available, so that people can print them at home and then get them out into a public environment.
23) Build a “unique” computer and auction it on Ebay.
The person in the link below built a laptop using a Commodore 64 (very cool).
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/01/12...ew_commod.html
24) Hire a plane to drop leaflets on a town or write 'oneana' or 'oneana.com' in the sky.
The leaflets thing (i.e. the legal issues) might make it a bit risky... But it could work :)
25) Get a famous person (e.g. athlete, actor) to go and visit Ana and then get them to donate some money.
Get the media involved in this one, big time!
26) Get someone from VBForums to go on a community radio station / web site to increase the awareness of the whole situation.
27) Make a CD.
Call it "The Worst Charity Album Ever Made" or some other name that catches the public's eye and sell it on one of the music download web sites. VBForums' members will write the music / lyrics and provide the vocals / original vocal samples etc.
28) Make something that people can eat.
And then sell it, just like Paul Newman did with his charity sauce products.
29) Buy, rent (or simply put?) a sign next to a busy highway with the web site on it.
30) Make a cake, sell it in your place of employment etc, then donate the money and/or profits.
31) Create gifs / jpgs / images etc that people can put on their web sites, so that they can link to the "oneana" web site.
32) Stand in front of television crews, with signs that promote the web site.
33) Make a movie (comedy, drama etc).
The people who made “Blair Witch” got approximately $4m (the distributor made lots more)... And they didn't spend a lot of money making it ($25k)!
34) Produce a 5 min routine / mp3 (e.g. comedy) every week and get radio stations to buy it and play it on a particular show.
There are a few jokers on this forum and they've often got original material :)
35) Produce a "limited edition" product (e.g. "100 Classic VB Applications") and sell them as a collectable item.
These can be sold at a premium for a reasonably low cost.
36) Hold a "VBForums Live!" event.
Q&A, jokes, guest speaker, dinner etc.
37) Start a web site (e.g. "ihelpedana.com") get people on the street to donate, if they do, put a photo of them on the web site.
38) Start a web site, get people to display 'oneana.com' signs in places around the world (especially at big events - football, Olympics etc.) The best one might get a prize (e.g. $100 gift voucher) and / or their name on the front of the web site.
An Aussie radio station has done this (and I'm sure others have too) and it generated a very good result.
39) Get companies (e.g. The Body Shop) to put worthwhile web sites on the products they sell. The first one would be “oneana.com”.
40) Rent-A-Slave
A charity thing. Get someone (or some people) from VBForums to be someone's slave for the day!
I highly recommend -
Well, let's just say their "names" start with the letter "P" :)
Good bye and good luck.
This thread shouldn't be a sticky anymore, if so many people want to help out Ana, it'll stick by itself.
A girl I went to school with was paralized in a car reck. To help pay for bills, the family and school held a special day for her on Saturday, and raised 25K! That's in one day and I think many small business owners were there to help.
Not many people would be willing to setup an online donation site like what's in this thread, but I hope it's not all their doing (and generally think it's not).
A better option would be contact some charity agencies that may foot the bills, I am sure there would be many such organisations around, you may also talk to your employer and see what options you have.
bye
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Tell me how to donate.
But I can't use Paypal or Credit card.
Since I'm 17 years old my self..
And how is she now? :?
who is ana?
does she has a bugs on it????????? :)
Read the First post Man..
@Iron Skull: I am in the exact situation to yourself, but she was eleven years old at the start of the thread you can tell old she is now. Cmon you do the maths
Many of those things would cost more to execute than they would return in funds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arty2000
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Originally Posted by singularis
Dude I meant how is she?
Not HOW old is she..
Ok, point taken ;)Quote:
Dude I meant how is she?
Not HOW old is she..
No news since March I pray all is well?
And where is the Madeline band wagon?
?? what do you mean
im 14 so im not exactly in the position for making donations...but i wish the best. all i can give is my advise, which comes in a strange way. my "advise" is this:
since the begining of time, humans have given things meaning that aren't there. they have named thing and percieved things as such, though they dont even exist to begin with. do you believe ur speakers make sound? they dont make sound, they make vibrations which is interperated in ur brain and basically gives u a certain sensation. we just call it sound, even tho it isn't. do u believe cold and hot exists? heat exists, u can measure how much heat, there is, but cold doesn't. cold just doens't exist. u cant measure cold, there is only a limit on how low the heat can be. colld is nothing. just a word. what about other things, like good and bad?
i dont feel like explaining this following thing, because i'd spent about a year just figuring everything about this out. but the basic idea is this:
everything you do, say, hear, see, etc. effects your mind permanantly. even if its something like u were walking down the street and you see a quater on the ground, then u keep walking. u may not realize it, and u may never kno how, but it permanantly effects you.
thats part of it
the next part is basically the same thing, but it effects every1 and everything in this entire world.
the short of it is that nothing is static. everything constantly changes. and everything you do...or dont do....effects the whole world. now look at the time, and look how many seconds have gone bye in your whole life. jsut imagine that. and imagine all the seconds that passed that you didn't do something good. now realize that all those seconds contribute to all the evil and killing and torture and everthing bad in this world. no second is wasted.
you can figure out how all this works by urself. but i warn u, to really really get all you can from this, it will take a long time and some serious thinking, where its just like you ignore everything else and decide firmly just to think about this.
im srry i cant do more. and btw my "advice" applies to every1, not just this topic.
please tell me if this helps and if you have anything to add.
Troy Mac: Madeline McCann
Doyer: What - in the name of all that is holy - are you babbling about?
Have you ever considered philosophy? Because what you are saying is that there is 'evil' in the world and you 'should' stop it or you are wasting your life and/or aiding the 'evil'?
I don't mean to be blunt but what about Madeline, why are you not supporting her? What about all the other evil in the world, such as terrorism, poverty and disease?
It is nice to have that inspiring message but you contridict yourself. Good and Bad are based on morals and ethics and cannot be measured like heat can and of course, Good and Bad are words too.
PS: Never use textspeak in this forum!
its supposed to be contradicting. thats the whole thing that must be realized. then after that we must figure out who the paradox isn't really a paradox. because there are certain things that are just unable to be percieved by humans. here, this is a true story, happened to some1 i kno, wen he was like 13.
imma name the 2 people person a and person b.
a and b were frends. b was born blind . a was normal. one day b comes to a and is just like hey, u were in my dream last night.
a is like really?? how does that happen? what did i look like?
b is just like...u looked like you. no different.
a is like nono, but what did i look like? what clothes was i wearing? what did my face look like??
b is just like omg...are u stupid?*says it as if he is higher than a*
all u people with vision are the same. dont you understand, im blind? ive never seen anything. i cant even grasp what vision means. i hear u guys in ur conversation and i act like i understand. i hear black is the opposite of white, white is the opposite of black. such and such colors compliment each other. and i act like i understand and can talk to u, but in reality, i dont understand it at all. what is this color? i cant eat it. i dont feel it. what can this be? i cant even imagine what u guys see, because i have never seen. how can i imagine something ? i have no imagination, because i cant even grasp what that means.
a is shocked.
that was basically wat happened. another thing is this
imagine u had a 2 year old kid. they're 2 tho, so they cant really grasp all that you can. no matter how much they try, they wont understand things that you do. so you could be confident that you could tell ur 2 yearold kid be like, ill give u one thing. it can be anything in the world. ur favorite, and ill give it to you. and you can be allmost certain their response would be something like a candy bar or a toy. they cant even grasp the concept asking for anything else becasue thats all their little minds can comprehend as important. i dont think important was the right word, but thats the only one i could think of.
And what does this have to do with this thread - the 'Save Ana' thread? Nothing as far as I can comprehend. Perhaps it would be best to continue this discussion with whomever you were replying to in a seperate thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by doyer
Very well nemaroller.....
I will no longer practise the art of necroposting ;) and I hope doyer does the same :p
haha, it wasn't a reply to any1, but my way to contributing, not to ana's well being, which my current situation only alows me to pray for her, but to the family and any1 else, because its things like these that can really mess up the lives of every1 around the suffering person too, so by saying that i hoped to atleast help them as in any1 suffering in such situations psycologically and emotionally....if that made any sense.....and now to try and figure out what necroposting means...haha
Ana is going to recover, but the family won't recover financially anytime soon, if ever. Now, due to the detours and just unfathomable (for me) responses to this thread by a handful of you, I'm closing it.