But then he will have to give you room and board too.
Your wife cooks Steve?
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But then he will have to give you room and board too.
Your wife cooks Steve?
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Originally Posted by sevenhalo
Hey hey, this isn't the want ads or "Hints From Heloise".Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
Ditto + I'll clean up your laptop :bigyello:Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenhalo
(sorry Hack... :blush: )
Back on subject, IMO I'f your reall conserned that 80GB isn't enough (even though it should be :p ) go with Seagate's 100GB 7200RPM. Size and speed! ;)
sorry Hack, had to give it a shot.
I would go with the original suggestion I gave: HP dz8000v. It's 64 bit, the same resolution as szl's and ample expansion and space. :thumb:
Hacks just jealous that you didnt offer to hire him in exchange for services. :D
Hack, if your wife cooks then I could be tempted to make the move for the right price. :D
Back on topic, Hack if you put together some configurations we can make a few more suggestions. ;)
Or the V5000Z for much less ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenhalo
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/sh...computer_store
Yeah, but that's 15" and can only support one HD. After you upgrade it a little so that it's close to being compareable, you're up to $1,348. The one I bought was a little less then 2,000.
And you forgot about the builtin 10 key entirely :)
<3 10key
For $700 you could easly buy a usb 10 key & a 19" LCD screen... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenhalo
It was the resolution that landed me this laptop model - the 1600 wide was the requirement (and actually not easy to find)...
I see that the dv8000z does that resolution as well...
btw - my wife does not cook - I do all the cooking - (that's a picture of my twin boys making pancakes with me)...
and I only hire locals - as R&D requires in-your-face discusion and fighting and proving each other right and wrong and all that fun stuff...
Well, I'm not a hardware guy as I've said (at least twice in this thread), so I can't get real technical on the hard configurations, but here is what I want to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
I think I'm going to need it to run Windows 2003 Server because I want the full blown SQL Server 2005 database, not just the developer edition (Why? Because I already have it and don't have anything to put it on :D )
I want to run and load both Visual Studio 6.0 and Visual Studio 2005.
The only other thing I can think of that I would want on it is Office 2003.
I want a wireless internet connection (I want to be able to fire this puppy up and get to vbforums while sitting in front seat of my car :D )
I want 1GB+ of ram
a minimum of 100GB hard drive. Based on what I've read in this thread so far, perhaps the 200GB range would be even better.
I think I'm going to go with the 17.0 built in screen.
DVD/CD player
As I mentioned, I already have all of the above software, so I could care less what comes preinstalled in terms of software. That will just get blown away anyway.
So, based on this, you tell me what I should be looking at.
I've used my DVD burner a dozen time in the past two months - really worth it!
You guy's ever hear of Parkinson's Law?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack
I read a great article about hard drives about a year ago that talked about it and theorized that if the size of HD's continued to grow at the same rate that there'd soon be SO MUCH space on them that Parkinson's Law would fall apart. I think we can safely declare you guys have successfully proven him wrong....
I though that was what Michael J Fox has - Parkinson's Disease?
It may be a good idea to get a system with two separate physical HDs for optimum performance. you will need it.
Does that mean Michael J Fox is a robot then....Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
Something to remember; 2X HD = 2X power consumption
But if its going to be plugged in most of the time then it shouldnt be much of an issue. Hack wants the big screen so that too draws more energy then a second hd. :)
I which case perhaps a desktop would be better...Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
Also 2 HHD's will only give a significant performance increase if their in a stripped raid array.
Note quite, you can gain performance if you have two controllers on your mobo and each HD is on its wn separate channel. The throughput is greater and doesnt get affected by demands as much.
I leave my laptop plugged in almost 24/7, but I leave it on my coffee table in my living room. Plus, if I need to take it to my office, I can unplug it and move it without worrying about shutting down (and also, it works on planes, etc etc).
You don't have to use the 2nd hard drive as a RAID. I don't see the point in setting up a RAID on a personal computer anyway (I backup externally and performance has never been an issue). The way I see it, RAID on a personal computer is basically throwing disk space away (IMO).
Not to mention, most laptop HD's are 5400 or 4800 RPM. The 100gig 7200 you recommended would be almost as damaging when it comes to power consumption.
I think this thread has come to the point where we all get to anxiously wait and leave it up to Hack. :)
Only if you where onpening files form both drives at the same time (which is rarely).Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
The OS on one drive and Programs/Data on the other. :D
But Hack did mention SQL...Quote:
Originally Posted by -TPM-
And SQL - at least in a production environment - likes to have the DB on one drive and the LOG file on another drive - it's a SQL specific kind of scenario...
But I don't think that a development laptop needs that kind of dual drive setup - but wanted to mention it...
I didn't say you HAVE to have RAID for a second drive, I said to see a decent performance increase. You also wouldn't be using ANY extra space if you where only using RAID 0 (technically not RAID but anyway..). I also don't belive 1 7200RPM drive will use anywhere near the same as 2 5200RPM's. Your right though Hack does need to decide for himself, I'm just trying to help him make an informed dissision :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenhalo
You can also move the pagefile.sys to your secondary drive to relieve the stress off of the primary drive's head.
Those wouldn't read at the same time though, the OS would read at bootup for the most part, and the programs after login.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
Not necessarly. If your running programs like VS or SQL Server, photoshop etc. Actually photoshop uses scratch disks that you can place on different drives to help imporve performance.
Is that for performance reasons though?Quote:
Originally Posted by szlamany
The scratch file would be used once the application has finished loading...Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
And I didn't say you said you did! :)
Anyway, Good luck on your decision Hack. Whatever you do, don't listen to the sales reps. Entrust VBF for all of your life decisions; we know what's best for you. :thumb:
Yes - the SQL database engine has many threads running at the same time - initially data is written to the log file (write-ahead-logging) and other processes within the engine put it into the database during "low" moments (or whatever scheduled moments appear proper).Quote:
Originally Posted by -TPM-
Sorry it seemed implied.. :blush:Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenhalo
I totally agree with the rest too :)
Yes, same here as they only want to sell you what they need to sell you and not what you need/want.
91 posts - and only a handful by Hack [edit-well 2 handfuls!]...
We are like little kids in a candy shop - mention a new toy and off we go :D
Thank you for pointing that out. I would like to mention 3 things.Quote:
Originally Posted by szlamany
For the umptheenth time, I'm not a hardware guy. RAID to me is something that comes in a spray can and is used to kill bugs. Please refer to Post #70.
(LOL - I'll bet if I asked you guys what time it was, I would get the history of clocks and sundry other timepieces for an answer. :lol: )
Where's the other two things? ;)
RAID is pretty simple really... It's just a hard drive configuration.
http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/...214332,00.html
That'll explain what each configuration does (I actually just bookmarked it, I didn't know what RAID was past 3).
RobDog taught me what Raid-1 was this week - he had that fail...
We've got RAID-5 on our server - not sure what it does (6 drives doing xor-bit redundancy?)...
RAID-1 now makes a lot of sense to me - it's a mirror of your harddrive - so if it fails, you can simply keep running on the mirror. I've lost harddrives on my workstations in that past year or so - and wish I had RAID-1 (or norton clones - whatever)...
But on a laptop - can you really have two drives running RAID-1? Is that common?
Hardware - raid - and 70...Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenhalo
Hack is a man of few words - respect them ;)
Oh wow... I thought you were kidding, but there really was 3.
Enviroment.NewLine Hack, you'll love it :)
:lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenhalo
Somehow I saw all his "puncuation marks" between the lines!
I only saw 2 things mentioned. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hack
Not hardware guy and RAID.
?
I don't see why not, it'd be a compleate waste though... I could see maybe 1+0, then at least there maybe some speed increase. Although I pretty sure there's not hardware RAID for laptop's so you'd need to do software RAID (Software controls the splitting/mirroring of data) which would probably offset any IO (input/Output) gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by szlamany
You forgot the "see post 70."Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
It's a point in itself :)
But if thats a point then it has in itself about 8 points. so that makes 10 points and not 3 :D
Hack we need you to let us know what the third point was. :D
Sorry for the off topic posts. We Bad. :(
10 > 3, pick the points you want :)
Clearly this thread run its course so I think I will just toddle off and do some research on my own.
Thanks everyone. :)