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Whoho! now im at a whopping 9.5!!!!!!
I just got an awesome part of my game coded. I got enemys walking on the screen! Granted they dont do anything or hurt you, but hes there moving around, and it dosent afect the frame rate even in the slightest bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I need some more coffee :lol: :) :)
yeah you gotta love the "how do i make a program" questoion.
i had a girl ask me, how do i write a game.. i said.. well, you have to be a programmer ;)
she said, just tell me, im good with computers it'd be easy... i just repeated, you have to be a programmer, go learn how to program.
infact, most people i know are completely oblivious to programming, one of the smartest questions i have gotten when i was helping someone (who can do at least newbie lvl programs in vb6), and this was an mp3 player he had made btw.. was from a shoulder looker asking "hey cool are you making a skin for the player?" umm, no, i am coding a new feature into the player.. the reply.. "what?"
yeah.. but hey, im thankful i have at least that 1 person who understands what's going on, when i have to deal with office workers all day (i once had somebody try to type words into a date field, as in "next friday", of course it didnt like that, so i was called up, "the program is faulty! i cant enter the date!" jeez...
RTFM comes to mind. :D
good poll...
10 for sure... else i wuld't do it :P
I hate it, but then I hate almost everything :)
hey i LOVE this emo on ur sig!!! (the one with the smilie and IE, FF)
can i put it on my sig???? plz!
I wish my users were oblivious again... One of the thing our network admin has done is attempted to teach our users terms. It's really really sad and I sometimes get physically sick talking to them.Quote:
infact, most people i know are completely oblivious to programming,
One guy, the only word he knows is "firewall." He knows it has something to do with security and can prevent some things from happening. That's all he knows about them. Whenever something's not working on his computer, he calls me and says "why can't I log in to my computer, is there something wrong with the firewall?"
We have some remote locations we're connected to by radios. Every now and then, some other companies frequency hopper radio kicks out one of our towers and I gotta call a user at the location to remote into it and restart it.
*Call location*
Me: Hi, this is Derrick from the MIS department and...
End User: *Interrupts me* Hey, my computer isn't working. I can't get on the internet.
(like I had any other reason to voluntarily call these people?)
Me: I realize that, can you get <insert psuedo-trained user's name> for me?
End User: Well, what's going on... I mean, what keeps happening?
Me: <insert BS about how it's too humid and it's interfereing with our radiation transmitters>
End User: When is it going to be fixed? I have lots of <insert redundant job task> to do and.... *continues attempting to validate the reason they have a job*
Me: Just as soon as I can talk to <less then trained user>
End User: He's not in right now, he's out at a meeting. Is there something I can do instead?
Me: Ya, start a pot of coffee. I'll get in my car and be there in 2 hours.
(I'll stop, I can go on with storys like this all morning...)
go for it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by frix199
I think we all got 100's of stories like this.....Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenhalo
End users just arn't worth trying to talk too.. I usualy.. try to go to their office (Callout charge + 1 or 2 hour fee).. Chase them off the computer... Pickup the entries they trying to make... correct the Db.. Tell the user, "If you have any more problems don't hessitate to call, I'll come out as soon as i can to sort it out.", And as i leave i drop off a invoice for the time spent (at a premium rate too) with the accountant...
there are great stories to be found at clintcopia
http://clientcopia.com/quotes.php?id=1250
it's great ;)
man was just thinking about the past... good times...
i am so pissed, although it dosent matter so much, but i have lost the game i made back in 2006, i have older versions but not the new one. it sucks, but its fun to see how much i enjoyed coding back then. dont do much of it now...
Weirdly enough, the job I started at almost exactly the same time as this thread started, has robbed my of most of my love for coding. Now it's just a chore that pays the bills - a necessary evil.
So last year I took up electronics as a hobby instead :) I now love that as much as I ever loved programming.
Odd, I got a job in programming because I loved to write code. Introducing bugs and getting paid for it. Perhaps if you introduced enough bugs in your code, you might feel better about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wossname
I'm beginning to see the pattern: Damasterjo is walking down memory lane resurrecting all the ghosts encountered along the way.
I program for my job in Java, ASP 3.0 and BPEL.
I hate it.
But I program for my own personal projects in C#. I love it. I sometimes dream about code in C#. Probably weird, but not as weird as my dreams ... nevermind.
Personally, I think that when someone is not happy (excluding things like personality conflicts etc.) in their profession for months on end they should evaluate if they should stay in said profession or look for another profession. My guess is the majority of software developers rarely get to build a truly awesome application but instead are satisfied when their customer is happy with what they have provided them along with the developer knowing they did a great job and overall was a good experience. I as many members here spend time over and above the average workweek because we enjoy what we do and that is key to being in a profession that makes us happy.
Bottom line is anyone in software development who is in for the long term is more in for the passion and less for the pay check although it is nice getting a pay check.
That has never happened in the entire history of mankind, included unrecorded prehistory. The guy who invented the wheel was told to take it back and make it out of a granite instead because the customer didn't like the colour.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevininstructor
You can "know" you did a great job all you want, but what if nobody else acknowledges it? You can only get so far on self-satisfaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevininstructor
Indeed. Discounting the endless and unproductive meetings, hellishly prolonged testing phases and maliciously frequent promotions for people in OTHER departments... overall... a joyous existence.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevininstructor
I need to go have a lie down.
I don't know if I should laugh or call my therapist
:lol: :cry: :sick::eek2:
how did you make the pole ? walkthrough please
When you create a new thread there is an option for creating a poll. Just step through the procedure. You check the box, Post a Poll? and select how many poll options. You then have to be brave and click submit new thread and it will give you a screen so you can fill in what the question for the poll will be and the different poll options.
Usually you make a pole when you get excited.
I expect to soon see a poll-emic from Moti.
Nah, that's not how they put up the pole to carry the electricity wires outside my building!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EntityX
Moti, it's a long process involving steel. First they dig up a tubewell kinda hole into the ground, something that's about a foot in diameter but many feet in depth. They then insert a wooden staff at the centre of this deep hole. Then they pour molten steel into the hole. Have you seen someone making candy? Nope? You should, because it's almost the same. Only the candy is bigger and you couldn't lick it.
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Originally Posted by kevininstructor
their customer is happy with what they have provided them
I am sorry to hear that but I have bad penty of satisfied customersQuote:
Originally Posted by wossname
Originally Posted by kevininstructor
along with the developer knowing they did a great job
Personally speaking we have had plenty of acknolegement of what was provided to customers but will agree that there are countless times that they do not acknowlege what we did too.Quote:
Originally Posted by wossname
He's a cat. They're always bitter.
Oh wait....I seem to vaguely remember him saying that he wasn't actually a cat one time....perhaps he was serious?
I have found in my programming years that customers can be very happy with what I provide or very unhappy and in either case, it has so little to do with the code that I probably could have given them a blank floppy disk with the same result.
What makes a customer happy is engagement and empathy. Yes, traits most devs aren't know for. But master them and you'll succeed.
I'm NOT BITTER!!! :mad: :bitter: :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by shaggist
That is so totally true!! Nothing much I can really add. It's good to see that others see that, as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Rat
I really like coding, almost 13 years now. Wish I could like my job as much.
Had a user tell me once, “you gave me just what I asked for, but it not what I need”.
Learned to asking more question after that, user do not really know what they want.:ehh:
It happens to me. Sitting in my chair doing something then take a quick break then I felt boredom (popping to my head "do I really like programming?") but then I continue coding even though it take me a lot of time to figure out on a process that im working :D.
Maybe just gotta visit my hamster and talk to them :D.