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All you have to do is create a class module that represents a document. Say its called CDocument. Now every time you make a new document all you do it this:
VB Code:
You should probably also make a CDocuments that is a collection for CDocument. That allows you to access things by their Key and such. You can also store the key in the Tag property of the form that it is linked to so you always know which form goes with which instance of the class.
A while back I created some sort of Control array of forms. Can't remember how I did it now, as its 6.49am, I've had no sleep, and my backups are elsewhere. I know what you mean by using classes, and honestly, if my code ends up looking too sloppy, I'll convert it to using classes.
For now I just want to get a basic working beta up.
chem
I really think you should put it into a class now. You will thank yourself later.
I've actually found another project that I want to devote my time to, so I will only have time to throw together a basic UI for you guys and the code for building on it should be pretty self-explanatory. I'll be around for some help, but I don't think I will have time to make the whole thing.
Timeshifter, could you upload all the icons you have found so far?
Also, I think it would be WELL worth your guys' time to look through these:
Image Processing
Copy the a picture to the clipboard
Hue/Luminance/Saturation
Gray scaling
Color scaling
Cool alphablending
Custom filters
Blur/Sharpen/Emboss
Sure. here ya go ;)
The basic code we're using already uses the technique described in those articles EM.
chem
Okay. I didn't look into them much, I just thought they might help. Do you guys have filters set up like that?
Yes. The main 6-7 filters so far use the same 3x3 grid technique described in those articles. Only one of them uses a slower 5x5 grid.
chem
Could you guys make a decision for me? I need to pick between which rebar-type control to use.
Standard Rebar:
Advantages:
* Nicer look
* Slightly easier to code for
Disadvantages
* Non-draggable/locked (because if enable the drag option then it makes sense to save the layout of the toolbars when the program unloads and restore them afterward and there are a lot of bugs in this part of the vbAcc code).
Dockable Rebar:
Advantages:
* Dockable :)
* Dragable
* SaveLayout and RestoreLayout work properly
Disadvantages:
* Slightly harder to code for (but you won't be coding a lot of new toolbars after the original ones are added).
* Slightly bigger .OCX
* Doesn't look as nice :(
Its up to you guys. Let me know ASAP.
Use the Standard Rebar. We don't need it to be as fancy as dockables :p
chem
Okay cool. If that is the case, then I will post screenshot of the program when I get home today.
Would you guys like me to throw your graphics engine into a simple Class Module or keep things the way they are now? It would be cleaner and make more sense, but its up to you.
Also, would you like the picture to be scrollable when it is too big? I guess that is somewhat necessary. I will try to add that, but Im not sure how to go about it. I could do it a couple ways. I could simply add scrollbars then attempt to link their movement to the movement of the picture. Or I could add scrollbars to the entire child for using some vbAcc code. I'll look into the possibilities more when I get home.
I found this on vbAcc:
http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/Re...er/article.asp
It obviously dosn't have enough colors but me be helpful when you guys write your own color picker.
The code doesn't really need to be in a Class Module. I planned on just chucking it into a module, and cleaning it up a bit. As it is now, its extremely messy I know, but I plan on making it alot more readable once we have the basic functionality down.
As for the colour picker:
I'll write one of these. It won't be too hard, and I will probably make it like the Photoshop one.
chem
Its your program so this will probably be my last comment on class modules, but you are making your life a lot more difficult if you don't put it into a class. If you aren't familiar with class (like I wasn't a few weeks ago) its an awesome time to learn. If you don't put this stuff into a class then it will always be harder to use and work with. The best thing I can do to convince you is to link to to an awesome description of what classes are: http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?p=2228217
You really should abstract the drawing stuff (using a class) from the rest of the program. This is the best way to make it easy to expand in the future and also the best way to allow it to work with many images. If you put it into a class and have the class represent the stuff you can do with one image then all you need to do is make a new object instance for that class and you can do everything all over with a new image.
If you put it into a module then you have to keep track of the current state (zoom level, undo record, file path, file type, JPEG quality preferences) for each and every file. If you put it into a class then these would all be properties of the class and you would have their default value set one time and all you have to do (once again) is "Set oImg = New CMiniShopProImageClass" and BOOM, theres another image all ready and rearing to go.
Anyway, if that didn't convince you then nothing will. I am more than willing to help you with classes if you want it.
Sorry I didn't get a screen shot of the GUI up yesterday, I keep adding and adding and adding to it :).
I know what classes are, what they do, and what they can be used for. I never meant to say it won't happen, but until I get the main code going within the GUI, it won't have layers and all that sorta thing. So in turn, I guess I am saying it will be placed into a class module...later. :)
I'm glad you're working on the GUI. I hate doing the GUI. Thanks again for it :)
chem
Okay, sorry, didn't mean to imply you didn't know about them, I just kinda thought you were in the same position as me a few weeks ago.
My pleasure to work on the GUI. I was only planning on doing the basics, but I am basically doing almost all of it at this point.
Okay, GUI is almost done. I am in the middle of converting the old code for image effects into the new program. After that the only thing I have left to do is add an MRU (Most Recently Used) file list. I also need to implement a progress bar that shows in the status bar while an effect is being applied. That is, of course, unless you would perfer the progress bar be somewhere else.
I would post a screen shot now (like I said I would earlier), but I'd rather you see the whole thing all at once. I think you'll love it. I can (almost) say for sure that it will be done by this weekend.
Old code for image effects? You're putting the code in there? Fair enough. Either way, I'm still going to - most likely - re-write quite a bit of it. Most of whats there is for testing. Ooo. I'm dieing for a screenshot.
chem
By old code I mean the code that actually did the image effects from the most recent version of the program that was posted on this thread.
I guess I can give you a peak :)
http://www.vbforums.com/attachment.p...id=42504&stc=1
http://www.vbforums.com/attachment.p...id=42505&stc=1
Here is a short list of the things I was going to point out when I posted the actual code:
* Menu/Toolbar Help text in the statusbar when you scroll over any item.
* Coords on your mouse in the status bar
* XP Styles (duh)
* Office XP styles on the menus
* A custom window list (with shortcuts of Alt+1 through Alt+9 for your windows and Alt+Left/Right Arrow to scroll through windows)
* Menu items and corresponding toolbar item are linked using a class I made so enabling/disabling/creating the item in my class does it for both.
* Tooltip of buttons contain the shortcut for that item
* Shortcuts are automatically done just by adding them to the caption. This is thanks to the way the vbAcc menu control works
* Scrollbars on the image with just a small class (instead of a control). Once again thanks to vbAcc.
There is more, but I will probably post a full list when I post the code. :) The first screen shot shows the window list and a normal image. The second shows a solarized image and the tooltip and the statusbar text.
I hope its to your liking. :)
EDIT: I just finished the math and it looks like I am also saving 1 megabyte worth of dependencies by using the smaller vbAcc controls and class instead of the Windows Common Controls and such. Thats 1 less meg to package and ship with the program. :)
Nice dude. Very Nice.
We will also need some sort of sizing slider control to size the brushes. Could this be incorporated into the toolbar up the top? (kinda like PhotoShop)
chem
It can be added very easily. The vbAcc toolbar supports adding controls to the toolbar and automatically sizes them for you. It will have to have a lot of differnet controls depending on the brush selected. But for now I will make it a text box.
Did you guys plan on this project being fully open source? That would mean posting the complete source code everytime you posted a compiled version, but it also means you can get hosting/bug-tracking for free from sourceforge.net
I just need need to know if I should keep track of the source code for the dependency files (DLLs/OCXs) or if it doesn't matter.
Erm. Yeah, we'll make it open source. I didn't plan on using SourceForge, just uploading to PSC (or, putting a link up there) later on.
chem
Okay, so do you want me to keep track of the source code for all the vbAcc controls? Or can you post DLLs/OCXs on PSC?
Also, do you care if the form has real-time resizing? I was thinking about using a class that makes it resize using a gray box instead of resizing as the mouse moves. The reason is because it takes a lot of code (and memory) to resize it each time. If you don't care then I will just use the gray rectangle resizing. If you don't know what I mean by that I can post a screen shot.
Also, do you guys have a temporary logo I can use for the "About" form.
Um. Actually, If you really want to you can grab the OCX's. I might make a SourceForge thing, because if I continue with it as much as I like, I will probably end up creating scripting capabilities, and a few extra features (hopefully setting it apart from Photoshop).
Yes to the resizing rectangle - if you can get it to work properly. If not, I suppose we'll just have to put up with the "laddy" effect.
As for the logo, I think Penagate had one somewhere. I'll MSN him later for it.
chem
Terribly sorry I haven't been able to work on this lately... A while ago my computer got some spyware and I had to reformat, and unfortunately, I've misplaced the installation discs for VB... I copied the IDE, but I don't have any of the OCX's, making it tough to really do anything with this... as soon as I can get full VB back on, I'll let ya know. :wave:
Erm. I'm getting restless. I'm pissed, but I still know when "byt the weekend" means.
chem
Sorry chem. I was waiting for the one last peice to be finished.
It is done now (or FOR now I guess I should say), but I can't really upload until monday because I only have dialup and I need to upload it at school.
I could upload the project files, but you wouldn't have any of the OCXs and stuff so it would be pointless.
Sorry about all that. I'll try to get it up sooner than monday if I can.
Okay its up:
http://rapidshare.de/files/7879138/M...0.0.3.zip.html
Directions:
1) Go to the link
2) Scroll to the bottom of that page and click the button that says "Free"
3) Wait 20 seconds
3) Press "Download: MiniShop_Pro_0.0.0.3.zip"
Here is a list of all the things I added:
* XP Styles
* MDI tabbed windows
* Menu/Toolbar help text in the statusbar when you scroll over any item.
* Coords of your mouse in the status bar
* Office XP styles on the menus
* A custom window list (with shortcuts of Alt+1 through Alt+9 for your windows and Alt+Left/Right Arrow to scroll through windows)
* Menu items and corresponding toolbar item are linked so enabling/disabling/creating the item using a special class module does it for both the toobar item and the menu item.
* Tooltip of buttons contain the shortcut for that item
* Keyboard shortcuts are automatically registered simply by adding them to the caption of the menu. This is thanks to the functionality of the vbAcc menu class.
* Scrollbars on the image with just a small class (instead of a control). Once again thanks to vbAcc.
* The picture automatically centers in when the parent form is bigger than the picture
* You can scroll the picture using the middle scroll wheel (vertically) and Shift+Middle sroll wheel (horizontally)
* Good icon set
* User preferences are saved in XML format and can easily be read/modified/brought to other machines
* Options dialog with XP style tab control
* Picture preview in the "Open File" dialog
* All code is well commented and designed for ease of use for future development
* Install Files using InnoSetup
Whoops. Sorry about the above post eyeR. Was a tad drunk :eek:
It's downloading now. Will let you know what I think (although I doubt I'll be disappointed). :)
chem
Love it. Love the .NET style tabbed windows. Love the toolbars. Love the XP commandbuttons.
The only thing really, that I want to change, is the icons that appear once you have selected them in the toolbox, then moved them over your image. They are just the same icons in the toolbox, and I think I'm going to make it something like the circles in Photoshop.
But other than that, it all looks good.
chem
What about Ctrl+Tab? And Ctrl+PgUp/Ctrl+PgDnQuote:
Originally Posted by eyeRmonkey
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by chemicalNova
Oh, that clears things up a bit. No problem. :)
Yeah, I know those icons look pretty bad, I just did them so there would be some effect instead of your plain ouse, I figured they would need changing eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by chemicalNova
I didn't know those were the standard. What should Ctrl+Tab do if Ctrl+PgUp moves you forward 1 window? I'll go change that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penagate
Chem,
I would be very happy to continue working on this project and doing GUI stuff as the need arises. I'm up for doing anything and everything except the graphics stuff (just because I'm no good at it ;)) unless there is something you would rather do yourself.
The only thing we need to work out is keeping our versions up to date. We should work out a method writing large comments around sections we change or something like that. That way we can each easily upload changes and not lose work we have put in. Any ideas?
From here on out if you want any changes at all made just let me know. Of course you can feel free to make them yourself, but I know the GUI code better (for obvious reasons :)) and if you make changes then we have to figure out how to combine the code properly (which migh tnot be that hard if we work out a good system).
Let me know your thoughts on all of this. I'm glad you like it. :)
I would love for you to continue work on it.
I've been up all night, organising different things for my CS:Source clan (We are in a the finals of an Australian competition here), so now I need sleep. As soon as I wake up though, I'll start throwing things from my older version - the stuff around with things, see if they work version - into this new one.
Maybe we could organise it like this:
As the GUI is looking good now, how about I incorporate the code I can, into the features of the GUI (like some of the missing effects), brushes, etc. Then, when the need arises for features to be added, with GUI "help" you could say, I could re-zip the entire thing, and send it your way?
Might not be the most efficient way, but its a start :p
chem
Oh, and as for control Tab, try doing it in mIRC. It seems to randomly choose tabs to select. Maybe not, my brain is dead at the moment, so if you see a pattern, thats what it does :p
chem
What do you mean "try doing it mIRC"? Isn't that a chat client?
By "control Tab" do you mean the MDI tabs? As for the order of those, it depends on the order they are in in relatity (if they weren't maximized) for the actual MDI child windows. There isn't anything you can do to change it really. I might be able to write a routine that could order them so they are always in the same order as they are in on the MDI tab bar.
As for us all working on the program, zipping it up and sending it back is somewhat cumbersome, but I guess it will work. Like you said, most of the GUI work is done for the moment. Zipping it wont be as big of a deal in the future because you will only need to send the basic files and not all the .DLLs and such.
What other effects do you need to incorperate? I thought I migrated them all over? I guess I didn't do Lighten or Darken though. Did add any other effects since the last version that was posted?
If you just start making a list of things you want done then zip up the project every couple weeks and give me the list we should be set. I'd like to be in charge of adding any controls to the form because I have a large collection of custom controls from many different places that can help us.
I think another good thing to do would be keep a list of all the changes you make. It seems hard, but when I was doing the IDE for lightfusion I just opened a .DOC right before I got done programming and added a few notes as to what I did. If you don't want to do that thats fine.
In Firefox Ctrl+Tab and Ctrl+PgDn move you RIGHT by one tab, and Ctrl+Shift+Tab and Ctrl+PgUp move you LEFT by one. It seems to work well enough :)
Cool. I'll add that to my to do list. THanks. :)
PS - Nice new avatar. :thumb:
Still working on it, but thanks :)
The effects aren't working for me. I haven't had time today to have a good look through, but I will fix it up.
The changes thing sounds ok. I don't have Word, or Office for that matter, on my PC. I honestly don't want it on there, as I don't use it much. But yes, everytime I change something, I'll add it to a changelog.
chem
Thats fine. A .txt is jsut as good as a .doc. How about a .rtf using wordpad? Its a little easier to read, but a .txt is fine also.
Ok, I'll use Wordpad. :p
chem
Timeshifter,
Are you still missing all your DLLs? Which ones do you need? What can we do to help you get on your feet again?
lol.. I pretty much need a complete reinstall.. I've got just about nothin right now...
Now I look at it EM, I need a few extra things for this to work. Mainly, when the user clicks on the brush Icon, another small area should show letting them choose an effect, whether or not they want it solid or soft, etc. I'll also need a colour choose done by you, as I'm sure you have some controls to add to that, and I think you should do all things GUI, so nothing looks out of place.
For the brushes, I'm going to simplify it like this.
Inside that function, will be a select case. So, even if the variables aren't needed for say, a Solarize Brush (like the color variables won't be), then they just won't be used.VB Code:
But as you can see, the color values need to be set in a color chooser, and the size and effect, need to be included in the GUI.
For the moment, I'll create all the variables, get the different brushes working, etc. After I have, do you think you could work on what I've suggested above? Then all you'd have to do is tie the GUI into setting the variable values, but I could do that if you wanted :p
chem
So you basically need a couple combo boxes (or drop downs of some sort) to choose brush size from? And also a decent color picker?
The brush options will probably be int he toolbar like photoshop, right? There is already a text box in the toolbar for this purpose, but I can extend that. I need a list of brushes, and what options there will be for them. It can be a preliminary list for now. Just whatever comes to mind. After that, just keep a list of them around somewhere and give them to me as you think of them.
For the color picker I think I will use a basic one to start with then add to it later. Do you want a pop-up form to chose colors or for it to be part of the main form? Or how about a less detailed color picker on the main form and then have an advanced one as a pop-up?
Let me know. And post the code when your ready (without the DLLs and stuff). :)
A drop down form for the brushes like Photoshop would be awesome. The basic and advanced color picker is a nice idea, let's go with that :p
For the brushes though:
You know the way I plot pixels, is fast to draw a circle from the center out, plotting each pixel. Because of that, brush styles are limitless, because I can just plot them in different pattern, to create different brushes. But to start, I'll just include the following brushes:
Solid
Soft
Solarize
Smooth
Sharpen
Emboss
Invert
Ripple
So if you want to start thinking about the layout of those other GUI things, that'd be good. Oh also, we need a scrollbar type thing for transparency aswell. Somewhere in the toolbar with the brush size..
chem
Maybe I am confused. So you want brushes to be a drop down also? So I could use the paint bucket tool with a ripple brush on? I thought that ripple (and everything else on that list) would only be an effect that could be applied to the whole image.
So which tools should have brush types? Obviously the eraser and pencile can't.
With in each brush we need options for brush sizes right? How will this work? Will it double the size of the brush? What about decimals. Based on how you store brushes, I don't see how you could increase the size unless it is in fixed increments. Do you want brush sizes to be a drop down or a text box type thing? Or a combo box?
I basically need you to lay out what you need for each tool/brush/effect. I can put it all together in the GUI, but I need to know which brushes will have transparency, which tools will have brushes, which brushes will have sizes, and so on.
Yes, you did misunderstand :p
The Brushes can only be used with the Paint Brush tool. The pencil will be 1 pixel thick (like most photo editors), and the eraser can be any size (resizable as described below).
The actual dimensions of the brush could be in pixels wide. I'm not too sure whether or not it should be the diameter of a circle, or just the radius. Do you know what Photoshop uses? So a size 20 brush would be either 20 pixels all the way across, or 40 (20 as the radius). Personally, I think using diameter would be best. Either way, I'm not too fussed.
As for the drop down:
If you could make it somewhat like Photoshop, that would be good. I just don't want to have it looking too much like PS. Have a play around with how you think it looks, and throw us a screenshot or two :p
chem
So would there still a "Effects" menu with all the possible brushes (that could only be applied to the whole image) or would that all moved over the a brush list format?
When do you want me to start working on that? After you post an updated version? I think that would be better so no ones work gets wasted. Just let me know.
By effects menu, I assume you mean, what we already have. A menu which allows you to select an effect for the entire image. If thats the case, yes, keep that. The effects brushes are just an addition.
Yeah, work on it after I upload another version. I've been busy lately, preparing for the finals, getting peoples availability. Online gaming is a very serious thing :p
chem
So is this project dead in the water or do we hope to revive it someday?
Well, I had to format a while back because I had the worst spyware on my PC from trying to download a Quake 4 patch, which, as it turns out, wasn't the official one.
So I don't have the stuff I was working on :eek:
chem
Can someone post the newest update app? i just wona see it. eyeRmonkey's post like is dead
I have it, but I can't upload it because it is too big and that fileshare site I used last time is too picky. If you have a free upload place then let me know.
yousendit.com
Or email it to me and I'll host it for a while.
Unless your zip is more then 50MB+ or i think the site lets u host more...,which i doubt, then this site is good: http://www.filefactory.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeRmonkey
I'll try to send it tomorrow at school. It is too big to upload on a 56k connection.
Here is the link to download the last version that I posted. It must be downloaded once within the next 72 hours or it will be deleted.
http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php...22e011764f915c
Credits: I did the IDE and chem and timeshifter did the graphics realted stuff.
Well, the adding of eyeRmonkey to my MSN, has jogged my memory of this little project.
eyeR is going to upload it somewhere again, and since I have some free time now, I'll continue it. I haven't programmed since probably my second last post of any significance in this thread, so we'll see how my memory is :)
chem