New Forum rules

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Originally posted by Ianpbaker
We will make money out of you helping people

we don't want the material that we package up and sell without checking to be tosh

fair comment

only post if you are a monk

although there is the data protection act to adhear to, we are gonna make money out of you from point one, so we'll be nice

ou will respect my authority (Beefcake)
again, go back to point one
Ok about the viruses, but the rest go's back to point one

but we will quiete happily post up banners and the like, which we will get money for
Where's Noah when you need him

fair comment

Oh well, there goes chit-chat

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Where did you find that? Link???

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Originally posted by markman
Where did you find that? Link???

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Read the rest of the thread. Someone posted it.

It's an www.internet.com link.

Well, I've been toying with the idea of rejoining these boards now they're under new management and tosspots like J4U who ruin the site for others are being dealt with.

This change to the rules is of supreme indifference to me. I'm well aware of my rights as far as copyright laws, intellectual authoring and ownership are concerned. These 'legal disclaimers' aren't worth the paper they're written on when all's said and done.

Unless you specifically mark your post as belonging to public domain then it's automatically copyrighted and therefore cannot be copied.

If (in the ridiculous event) it comes down to court action then I'll be able to file a civil suit under the international copyright laws (Berne Convention).

But that is, of course, completely farcical. In real terms these changes to the rules will have little or no affect on the denizens of these boards, so let's all just have a cup of tea and play nice. :)

Yeah, but you know just how much we love to make a big deal of things. Don't spoil the fun now ;)

Yeah Ben, kill joy :mad:

I know that signature disclaimer won't make a difference and won't stand up in court but it's all about having a laugh at it :)

My guess is the activity on the board wasn't up enough so
they post something about "Don't tell anyone you love Jesus"
so that activity would increase and they can start selling
advertisements.

I still don't know who the hell Brad Jones is.

I can't believe they banned J4U. Who says he ruins it?

**** me.

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Originally posted by parksie
Yeah, but you know just how much we love to make a big deal of things. Don't spoil the fun now ;)

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Yeah, sorry.

I'll get my coat.... :p

the only reason I posted this thread is because Jamie is getting docile in his old age, I oculdn't really give a monkey's hoot either way as I don't come here any more :D

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You will, if asked by a representative of the Forums, cease posting any content, and/or links to content, deemed offensive, objectionable, or in poor taste by the staff of the Forums.

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Is preventing racist things, etc?

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Originally posted by Gaming_World
And any previous user of the forums could just say that they never agreed to the changes (as we don't have to reregister)...

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Nope, Doesn't work that way:

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Your use of the forums, message boards, and any other public discussion medium (collectively, the "Forums") hosted by Jupitermedia and its affiliate sites indicates your acceptance of the Jupitermedia legal notice, privacy policy, those terms found on the registration page and in this Acceptable Use Policy ("AUP"). The AUP can be modified at any time, and your continued use of the Forums indicates your acceptance of the modified terms that can be found at http://www.internet.com/corporate/privacy/aup.html. Specific forums may have additional terms of service, available at the respective sites, in addition to those found in this agreement. Jupitermedia advises you to review any and all such terms of service.

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Originally posted by brad jones
I'll address what seems to be a big issue:
Any code -- unless you sold it to VBWorld/VBForums -- is owned by the poster.

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I think a lot of you missed this post from Brad. I changed the color of part of it for emphasis.

Well, last time I checked you can't sell something that's owned by someone else legally...

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Originally posted by msimmons
When does this go into effect? or has it already?

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not the best place to flirt unless your gay lol :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by brad jones
I'll address what seems to be a big issue:
Any code -- unless you sold it to VBWorld/VBForums -- is owned by the poster.

so if i post

VB Code:

unload me

and then someone else posts it, theyre breaking the rules

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Originally posted by MartinLiss
I think a lot of you missed this post from Brad. I changed the color of part of it for emphasis.

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Perhaps some had, but I didn't. I could be wrong, but I doubt he can legally speak for the owners of Jupitermedia about ownerships of Jupitermedia property, unless he is the owner of Jupitermedia.

The AUP Agreement is a legally binding document. Does Brad have the Authority to Modify it,

{ I mean to say to make it less restrictive. After all, according to

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Specific forums may have additional terms of service, available at the respective sites, in addition to those found in this agreement

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the Admins here can make it more restrictive, but less?}

If what he says is true, then there is no problem to have it
modified.

But as of this moment, It doesn't say anything like:

"Any code -- unless you sold it to VBWorld/VBForums -- is owned by the poster"

-Lou

That was the point of my post exactly. If both are true, that means we have code that we both own exclusively (the sentence makes no sense, which nicely fits into context). So, basically its a paradox...

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Originally posted by MartinLiss
I think a lot of you missed this post from Brad. I changed the color of part of it for emphasis.

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By posting, you hereby grant us a perpetual, exclusive license to the posted content for use online, in print, databases, CD, and any and all other media, whether now known or hereafter created.

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Obviously by posting code here we are putting it out to the public to do with as they wish. As soon as it is publically posted it is free game regardless of legal documents. Cmon now, be real, the code we have postes here has prolly ended up in thousands of applications already. I know some of my code is in your apps and some of your code is in my apps. If the owners of this website wish to use the code I post to make some $$$ then more power to them. I would never post sensitive stuff here anyway. However, If you are using our brainpower to make money do not treat us like a bunch of dickheades for blowing off steam in a chitchat forum. If It makes the God Guy feel better to preach, then let him. He has helped a lot of people, including myself with technical problems.

Marty I'm not bashing you. You've been a mod here for a long time and 99.9% of the time you handle things fairly.

Welcome to the fooking forums Brad :D

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Originally posted by MasterBlaster
Obviously by posting code here we are putting it out to the public to do with as they wish. As soon as it is publically posted it is free game regardless of legal documents. Cmon now, be real, the code we have postes here has prolly ended up in thousands of applications already. I know some of my code is in your apps and some of your code is in my apps. If the owners of this website wish to use the code I post to make some $$$ then more power to them. I would never post sensitive stuff here anyway. However, If you are using our brainpower to make money do not treat us like a bunch of dickheades for blowing off steam in a chitchat forum. If It makes the God Guy feel better to preach, then let him. He has helped a lot of people, including myself with technical problems.

Marty I'm not bashing you. You've been a mod here for a long time and 99.9% of the time you handle things fairly.

Welcome to the fooking forums Brad :D

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What he said. :)

The AUP says nothing about ownership. Its actually quite elegant. JupiterMedia gets, as MasterBlaster said, an "exclusive and perpetual license" to whatever you post. Its still yours, and you are still responsible for it, but you can no longer post it/publish/distribute it in any other way, ever.

And Ben, stop being a killjoy =P

Z.

Pffft...I say let'em have it. Anyone dumb enough to use anything I code deserves what they get.

;)

This place is a ******* joke now. ****. Watch your membership drop like a rock. No amount of phony members is gonna save you. :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by crptcblade
Pffft...I say let'em have it. Anyone dumb enough to use anything I code deserves what they get.

;)

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*takes another glance at the ListView code you just gave him* :eek:

I think the point of the licence is basically to say that you can't
run through the forums and make a disk of code and sell it.
..basically making money off of VBF's storage of said code.
..however, they CAN put it on a disk and sell it.

Fair 'nuff.

I mean, how would they enforce us not useing our own code?
That's just silly.

OR IS IT??!!! :eek:

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Originally posted by JPicasso
I think the point of the licence is basically to say that you can't
run through the forums and make a disk of code and sell it.
..basically making money off of VBF's storage of said code.
..however, they CAN put it on a disk and sell it.

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No, it actually says exclusive license. EXCLUSIVE. If you post it here, you cant do anything else with it without permission.

Z.

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Originally posted by The Hobo
This boat's going down fast.

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This boat's going down fast.


OH LOOK COPYRIGHT VIOLATION...and twice too. :rolleyes:

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You will not to impersonate any person or entity

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:rolleyes: Bollocks to that!

LOL

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Originally posted by duc
not the best place to flirt unless your gay lol :rolleyes:

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***?
I was so going to post something profound but I forgot what it was... (drunk)

Thsi whole thin is crezy. i should sent that corporation a stern fax or something...
:mad: :mad: :D

I reckong if we want to post code to help others, but we don't want Jupiter or whoever they are to nick it, alls we need to do is write

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©2002 ME!

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at the bottom of it.

If they try to steal it then, they will be in violation of copyright law and we can sue the pants off of them.

But, then the whole question of the internet being international and therefore following whatever damn laws it wants to comes into play...

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Originally posted by Jez1
I reckong if we want to post code to help others, but we don't want Jupiter or whoever they are to nick it, alls we need to do is write

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©2002 ME!

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at the bottom of it.

If they try to steal it then, they will be in violation of copyright law and we can sue the pants off of them.

But, then the whole question of the internet being international and therefore following whatever damn laws it wants to comes into play...

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I could be wrong but I think that by posting we agree that they can own it.

Then we should use our VB powers to create the worlds cleverest program, which can post 40 million messages simultaneosly, and activate it just after they get a huge advertising deal...


*Evil Laugh*



Or.......not.

The issue of code ownership has been resolved. Please see this thread.

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Originally posted by MartinLiss
The issue of code ownership has been resolved. Please see this thread.

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Thanks :)

dont they usually lock these threads so idiots cant post in them...

i.e this one

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Originally posted by duc
dont they usually lock these threads so idiots cant post in them...

i.e this one

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[censored by Brandon Martin Liss Tron], okay!? :mad: