Jesus AND Mohammed are both outside right now. Jesus is mowing the lawn and Mohammed is raking the leaves. So don't tell me that one was resurrected and the other wasn't when both of them are alive and kicking... making 12 cents an hour no less!
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Jesus AND Mohammed are both outside right now. Jesus is mowing the lawn and Mohammed is raking the leaves. So don't tell me that one was resurrected and the other wasn't when both of them are alive and kicking... making 12 cents an hour no less!
They must be day laborer's.
There's historic proveth of Iavntgottaclu btw.Quote:
Originally posted by Wally Pipp
Dear Mr. Plenderleith,
Or should I say skinny drunken Irish bastard ?
Anyway, it has come to my attention that I should refrain from posting topics about the green multilimbed squid god Iavntgottaclu. I can assure you that he is real and that his divine creed was written down when he made mankind as a sort of diary of production. The book has all the answers to mankind's questions : where do I come from ? Where will I go ? What makes cheese yellow etc ...
I will not stand here (well, sitting actually at the moment) and be censorisated by some know-it-all holier-than-thou mod that thinks that I'm not the true messenger of the REAL truth !
Iavntgottaclu will come down from his divine sponge and strike you down with a mighty gust of water if you dare not believing in him ! He will send you straight to hell and make you do the dishes.
Now is your moment and opportunity to start contemplating your mortal soul. He will save you and grant you a spot in his underwater cavern and you will eat seafood all your life. Even bearded clams !
No to censorisationing and yes to Iavntgottaclu !
Yours truly,
A. Sadgit
Haven't you heard of Mondays, the gay and lesbian mardi gras, and the friday after work drinks held in his honour (well after the 10th pint). And not even going into the whole leaving home and what became of the clothes fairy thing.
Thanks for the enlightenment Wally, there's not enough discussion of the true god imo, just these newbie late comers.
Regards,
B. A. Ijit.
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Originally posted by jesus4u
The battle is won already! Jesus Christ rose from the dead after the crucifixion, which has been historically proven. Uh I think..Mohammed is still dead the last time I checked.
oh you can kiss the fattest part of my ass you preachy, hypocritical, blind, kiddy fiddlin assclown
JESUS IS DEAD! you ****in *****, he was a man just like any other...and Islam doesnt say its the only way, Islam recognises Jesus, Moses and the rest of the motley crew as PROPHETS OF GOD Muslims believe is the perfection of all religions, which is why it was the last
jesus didnt die on the cross you ****hole, he died in India, his tomb is there to prove it...easter is a bunch of commercialisation crap, just like christmas, its all paganism mixed with some homoerotoc paedophillia
and its MUHAMMAD you ****tard, eat **** and die
and there it went ;)Quote:
Originally posted by plenderj
They're rarely kept clean and civil, and that is the problem :)
LMAO They better do my lawn next.:)Quote:
Originally posted by MidgetsBro
Jesus AND Mohammed are both outside right now. Jesus is mowing the lawn and Mohammed is raking the leaves. So don't tell me that one was resurrected and the other wasn't when both of them are alive and kicking... making 12 cents an hour no less!
I thought after wasting 15mins reading this thread that there'd be something to debate :rolleyes: I won't those 15mins of my life back J4U!!!:(
Never heard it called that before.Quote:
Originally posted by ghost ryder
its all paganism mixed with some homoerotoc paedophillia
But I agree with you 100% it's gone way out of control. I mean, shops and cities and stuff are going on about Christmas in September!
Strong Universal Rules of VB Forums:
No racial comments are to be written
No religous comments are to be written regardless of point or religion.
No sexual comments are to be written regardless of orrentation.
^^^We kinda broke that rule.
No explointed profanity is to be written unless you have a point to it.
Q_Me, i think we have broken all the rules in the past few hours :confused:
where did you get those?Quote:
Originally posted by Q_Me
Strong Universal Rules of VB Forums:
No racial comments are to be written
No religous comments are to be written regardless of point or religion.
No sexual comments are to be written regardless of orrentation.
^^^We kinda broke that rule.
No explointed profanity is to be written unless you have a point to it.
Yep we did. :DQuote:
Originally posted by john tindell
Q_Me, i think we have broken all the rules in the past few hours :confused:
i agree with spetnik :)
I disagree with most religions (atheist :)), but I don't go mental saying about how it's all a load of bullpats.
I accept that some people believe something, doesn't mean I have to, or that they have to stop.
i also agree with parksie :)
Amen Brother ! Spread the word ! Well, at least the tentacle imprint ! Anyway ! He's swimming his way to the mortal world.Quote:
Originally posted by Jethro
There's historic proveth of Iavntgottaclu btw.
Haven't you heard of Mondays, the gay and lesbian mardi gras, and the friday after work drinks held in his honour (well after the 10th pint). And not even going into the whole leaving home and what became of the clothes fairy thing.
Thanks for the enlightenment Wally, there's not enough discussion of the true god imo, just these newbie late comers.
Regards,
B. A. Ijit.
Iavntgottaclu, the REAL god, is on his way ! Praise him ! Save empty clam shells !
I accept it too, but it doesn't mean that they can go on like J4U all the time... It's just as bad as all the ppl calling it a 'load of bullpats'...Quote:
Originally posted by parksie
I disagree with most religions (atheist :)), but I don't go mental saying about how it's all a load of bullpats.
I accept that some people believe something, doesn't mean I have to, or that they have to stop.
There's a number of valid points in this whole argument. I'm not sure how best to collate them for this post to make sense and not get lost amongst petty squabbles.
J4U: We've met before, remember? On Galah, where you pretended to be someone else. You haven't shown your face around there since you realised that people don't want to argue about your opinions, have you? You always go quiet when you can't get your own way. That's very narrow minded. I believe that anyone with enough faith in their religion can listen to other peoples opinions - even respect them as opinions, without quoting an ancient book written by dozens of authors over hundreds of years.
I respect the fact that you believe you have a strong faith. To some degree I appreciate that - it's an aspect of your personality that shows conviction and strength. I dislike the fact that you are stubborn and sometimes rude about it. Surely true-life stories of your own experiences would be of more value in an argument. How Jesus saved your life is more important than how he supposedly turned water into wine nearly 2000 years ago.
Ghosty: You'd make a far better point if you try not to be offensive, no matter how much people wind you up. In the same respect as with the bible, I personally think people quoting the Qu'ran have little reference to contemporary issues. There's no denying - it is an old book.
For the record, I quite like Islamic beliefs in the historical sense - Moses, Jesus, Mohammed (or any other spelling :rolleyes: )all feature.
All: Just like Jamie said, chit chat is a privelege, not a right. There is no free speech. I "left" here a couple of months ago because I was bored of the complaints, the arguments, the meaningless threads wasting VBFs server space. I don't really care whether or not I'm missed, this place isn't the same anymore anyway. Things have to change for me to come back to any degree, and I imagine this is the case for many VBF ex-pats.
Religion or no religion is not important. If you can live your life by your own set of rules (be they ancient and handed down directly from God, or simply self-imposed), things will be ok. When you have to impress your own standards on someone else, ther will be friction. And it will be unpleasant.
anyway, I've said my piece. I hope things settle down, and people become comfortable with themselves again. Athiests, Agnostics, Hindus, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, Buddhists, and members of all the many smaller religions I've not mentioned can and should live together in peace. Surely that's what God, or yourself, really want?
Didn't they do that on SouthPark once? Or was that Satan and Jesus? :DQuote:
Originally posted by Ianpbaker
likewise, islam says it's the only way. do you think jeseus and allah should get in a ring and slug it out to settle matters ?
I'm all for a UFC bout between JEsus and Allah, or better yet, how bout a WWF Royal Rumble featuring guest stars Buddha and Ganesha? :D :D :D
I vil die for you mein fuhrer! :cool:Quote:
Originally posted by plenderj
This board is not a democracy.
:(
/grabs duvet and pillow and trundles off to bed...
Trundle is a top word...
All Hail Trundle!
Yay!
:D
You must promise to use 'Trundle' in conversation at least 5 times tomorrow (well today for you!;))
/trundles off to use the word 'trundle' in some conversation.
Wow! 2 down already! :D
How about this thread gets deleted?
:p
That would be amusing :D say it was cluttering the db or something :)Quote:
Originally posted by DiGiTaIErRoR
How about this thread gets deleted?
:p
Perhaps a new rules should be instated:
Thou shall keep thy religion to thyself!
:cool:
I reckon what's funny is that no matter how many people and how many times you've been told to piss off elsewhere with your propagandering, you still think that anyone on a professional development board gives two hoots about your version of god... :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by jesus4u
Others can post threads about contradictions in the Bible but when I post proof of contradictions in the Quran it gets deleted!
Very strange behavior mods!
Or that, despite that, anyone would care if you were moderated back to the stone age... :confused:
:D Hoot. That is funny.
:)
And tell me - what happened to El Diablo on your bible site? He got toally deleted not just moderated... :grrr:
Same with Jesus and God. Man, you are tough.
:D
Funniest thing is that i wrote an assignment for my studies of religion class, it outlined all the contradictions in the quaran also, and it *mysterious* disappeared... I just got an estimate
NotLKH
How are you i missed you?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)
Technically, J4U is correct.
Practically, he's not.
:)
I have to say I am on Jesus4U's side on this:confused:
It sais "Chit Chat", not "Chit Chat" - Religion.
And Wally....... the green multilimbed squid god "Iavntgottaclu" is actually a multilimbed Monkey God and his name is not "Iavntgottaclu" it is "Jeremy".
All of you.........on your knees to Jeremy the great Monkey God.
http://www.vbforums.com/images/ieimages/2002/10/7.gif Religion alert...Religion Alert. Please evacuate the thread http://www.vbforums.com/images/ieimages/2002/10/7.gif
this sort of thing irks me. I've sent him a PM.
Oh, and hi BG/Masterblaster. :)Quote:
Funny how you're prepared to open a big can of worms, start an argument, and then vanish. Your attitude strikes me as very immature. If you can explain calmly and politely in a logical fashion (and hey, you're a programmer - it can't be that hard), you'd get a lot more support.
Pretty good. You're rarely around anymore!Quote:
Originally posted by erindance
NotLKH
How are you i missed you?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)
How are you and your Mom doing?
OK after reading this thread, skipping many on the way; here is what I have to say...
Firstly religion is like a shirt... If you like it then you wear it. If you like a religion and think it is correct, then follow it.
Secondly, it is not good manners and first rule of influencing people to talk about politics & religion
Thirdly,
For the muslims... there is a chapter in the Quran, which says, let those who follow their religion go their way and you go your way. ie... DON'T interfere in other's religious activities. So if you really believe the Quran don't post religious.
For the non-muslims, instead of posting, why don't you go to Islamic research groups, whoes members might spend the whole day debating on a topic if you are confused.
Lastly VB Forums suggests you to post a thread with an appropriate Subject. I don't think so for this thread !
Also I think this thread should be deleted and a rule should be imposed that, no religious thread should be created. If anyone does, they should be thrown out of VBF and they should not be allowed to register again, by checking their IP.
http://www.consrv.ca.gov/dor/peace.jpg
that used to be in my signature..Quote:
Originally posted by DiGiTaIErRoR
Perhaps a new rules should be instated:
Thou shall keep thy religion to thyself!
:cool:
Well, I'm with Jesus4u on this one. The thread that was deleted sounds different from many of J4u other threads because it actually had some content and a point for discussion. Also, there have been many threads like that before so I don't see why that was singled out.
I'm not suprised that j4u feels unfairly moderated on this particular issue but I guess he's brought it upon himself by posting so many "empty" threads in the past.
I think all religious threads should be deleted
Jungle-Man, I think all posts that demonstrate an inability to contribute to a sensible discussion should be deleted from religous threads.
Many people are capable of discussing religion without resorting to personal insults and this is usually ruined by one or two individuals.
Wouldn't it be better to moderate the individual posts that would degrade the quality of discussion rather than simply deleting the whole thread in case it might degenerate? But I guess that's a lot harder for the moderator as they would have to follow the discussion.
Simon, to generalize and cut a snippet from your point, I do agree that threads should be followed, and not just removed "in-case".
But, to date I've always seen Jesus4u's threads turning into huge arguments.
I don't remember ever seeing one that hasn't.
So in my mind I might equate this to the protests in Northern Ireland.
Groups are not allowed to march through certain areas of the cities, simply because its a protestant or catholic area, and there might be violence.
Granted, there may not be violence, things might go to plan, but someone has to make the call of whether to pre-emptively stop the violence or not.
That then in turn would bring into question the idea of pre-emptive actions.
Normally I wouldn't agree with pre-emptive things, like in the case of Bush V Saddam.
I don't agree there - because we don't have the proof.
But going by a huge amount of past experience, I feel that pre-emptive action is justified.
I reckon threads where people who are intending to be malicious against others should be deleted as a matter of course. :)
With the exception of fanatics like J4U, who should be flushed down the nearest convienient toilet :cool:
btw - if the devil's so bad, why do so many people murder in the name of God?
basically it comes down to the fact that no one cares what J4 has to say... but he says it anyway.. and that pisses people off.. if you don't like what J4 has put in the forum... ummm don't read it.. don't respond to it.. because that ends up being a thread like this one.. where in the end.. we all still have the same opinions we did before.. if you think the thread is truly offensive (not just biased) then report it to a moderator who in the end has final say over the thread anyway...
may I butt in and propose an excellent site:
www.bangbus.com
And yeah, that's breaking rule number 3 i think.
My point is that plenderj and the other mods/admins should get together and layout a set of rules for Chit Chat giving certain tolerance to certain types of threads while 0% tolerance to other types. Then everyone would know exactly what is wrong or right. Plus, those rules should then strictly be implemented by the administration team. From what I know, VBF has the most liberal moderation team that ever existed. But of course, being liberal means that everyone here has way more fun than on other boards so that would surely be a sacrifice.
Well there already is an acceptable usage policy for VBF that everyone must accept before joining...
your point J4u?
Jamie
An argument in it's self is not necessarilly bad. If you regularly start threads on contraversial topics (like religion), then they are bound to become argumentative.Quote:
But, to date I've always seen Jesus4u's threads turning into huge arguments.
I don't remember ever seeing one that hasn't.
However, I have never seend J4U become abusive. He has endured countless insults but has never been drawn into a flame war himself.
If certain individuals cannot refrain from contributing to such threads in an abusive manner, why should j4u be penalised for this?
By actually starting a relgious thread that had content and a discussion point, as opposed the usual spamming, I believe he should be rewarded by not having his thread instantly deleted.
However, I realise that it is your decision at the end of the day. I am just voicing my opinion.
Funnilly enough, that's exactly what America is saying to justify a pre-emptive strike against Iraq...:rolleyes:Quote:
Normally I wouldn't agree with pre-emptive things, like in the case of Bush V Saddam.
I don't agree there - because we don't have the proof.
But going by a huge amount of past experience, I feel that pre-emptive action is justified.
Well, if we look at a purely hypothetical situation :
Someone, innocently (relatively) does something repeatedly every so often.
That action in turn causes 5, 10 or 15 people to become involved and cause absolute mayhem.
Should that one person be allowed to continue to do that thing ?
Now I don't think jesus4u creates those posts innocently.
I think he knows it will cause huge disruption.
A disruption is inevitable becuase I believe people are so asleep spiritually they need something to spark their minds into gear. Thus I post what MOST (including you) avoid.Quote:
Originally posted by plenderj
Well, if we look at a purely hypothetical situation :
Someone, innocently (relatively) does something repeatedly every so often.
That action in turn causes 5, 10 or 15 people to become involved and cause absolute mayhem.
Should that one person be allowed to continue to do that thing ?
Now I don't think jesus4u creates those posts innocently.
I think he knows it will cause huge disruption.
Perhaps most of us are deliberately avoiding it because it causes more harm than good?Quote:
Originally posted by jesus4u
A disruption is inevitable becuase I believe people are so asleep spiritually they need something to spark their minds into gear. Thus I post what MOST (including you) avoid.
Over the centuries, religion has caused more deaths than any disease.
i don't want to drawn into an argument, but what makes you think that because someone isn't a Christian, they're not spirtual? i'm spiritual, but am not religous.
I avoid it because I don't want spirituality.
Its as simple as that.
I don't want you to "spark" my mind.
I don't want anyone to teach me anything I have not requested.
Valid comment but someone can be sincere and be sincerely wrong at the same time.Quote:
Originally posted by tr0n
i don't want to drawn into an argument, but what makes you think that because someone isn't a Christian, they're not spirtual? i'm spiritual, but am not religous.
of course, but that doesn't mean you should impose your sincerity on them, because you could equally be wrong.