I am in Highschool too (even though I am in 13th grade) and I am not going to discriminate against you because of your age...
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I am in Highschool too (even though I am in 13th grade) and I am not going to discriminate against you because of your age...
You can't quantify infinite to a real number.
Stop trying.
In what Way?Quote:
Originally posted by DiGiTaIErRoR
The argument only gets more moronic.
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by NotLKH
In what Way?
Here's some consideration:
http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/55746.htmlQuote:
Ultimately, though, this probably won't _really_ make sense until you
come to grips with what it means for a decimal to repeat _forever_,
instead of just for a r-e-a-l-l-y l-o-n-g t-i-m-e.
When you think of 0.999... as being 'a little below 1', it's because
in your mind, you've stopped expanding it;
Great! an encore of nonsense.Quote:
Originally posted by nemaroller
Here's some consideration:
http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/55746.html
:rolleyes:
.999... only becomes 1 when you round.
Actually that makes sense DigitalError. You should actually read it.
I did read it.
And you think its nonsense?
Infinity is not accurate.
Unless you agree that:
If I give you Infinite dollar bills, and take back one, you have 999... repeating forever dollar bills.
:rolleyes:
Well, Mr. Error, I do have to admit that you've
got a great schtick to capture postcounts by living
up to your name by spouting disbelief against tried and true
mathematical concepts. And, BTW, your rolleyeye coment was
certainly well deserved, since I understood our simultanious
posts questioned and answered each other, and deserved no
furthur comment. But, I'm glad you did, it, along with the rest of
your comments.
:p
-Lou
You're trying to quantify infinity.
I do not need to explain why this is wrong.
1-.9=0.1
1-.99=0.01
1-.999=0.001
1-.9999=0.0001
well, DigitalError, if you can tell me when you stop writing all the 9s, I'll happily write a '1' on the end of my strings of 0s. Otherwise,
1-0.999...=0.000...=0
you are right, we can't quantify infinity. so an INFINITE NUMBER OF 9S simiply means the 9s are never ending. thus that means the 0s in 0.000... are never ending.
also, 0.999...=9/10+9/100+9/1000+...
do you know how to do the sum of an infinite geometric sequence? seeing how you are in high school and it is usually taught at gr. 11...
anywayz what does this equal to 9/10+9/100+9/1000+...
tell me (unless you want to argue first that there is no such thing is infinity and infinite sums like this one doesn't exists -- btw sin,cosine,pi,e all can be written as infinite sums in addition to other real numbers)!
However many 9s you can write after a decimal place you can always have enough 0's and a single 1 to add make it one.
.999... repeating forever does not truly exist. It's an idea. Like infinity is just an idea. There's nothing in the real world that has a measure of .999 repeating.
Like I said. In fantasy land, where your infinity can be a real number then you can have infinite repeating 9s.
But let me ask you this:
What's 111..., what's 999... no decimal place, just the number repeating forever. Infinity, right?
The same applies to .999 repeating. You're trying to manipulate infinity to a number. You can't do that.
so you are telling me that infinite sums and irrational numbers doesn't exist?
let me ask you, what is e? what is pi?
can you finish writing all decimal numbers of e and pi?
no! so i guess they are fantasy land numbers and they don't exist. right?
a little calculus knowledge since you probably haven't learnt that in high school (except for last year) yet. 0.999... converges infinitely close to 1. 999... converges to infinity. but we can't converge to infinity (or in your words, infinity can't be quantified). so 999... does not converge. we say that if it converges something, it is actually equal to something, thus the idea of limits.
if you can't agree to this, then you are denying the whole concept of limits and thus Calculus. well, you can refuse it now, wait till ur in university.
Wow.
Discrimination based on my age.
:rolleyes:
With such an attitude, its easy to see why you think it can't equal 1.Quote:
Originally posted by DiGiTaIErRoR
.999... repeating forever does not truly exist.
Unfortunately, just saying something doesn't exist doesn't make that statement true.
So, until you can prove such an hypothesis, I'd think its safe to say you are wrong.
And statements such as "You can't quantify infinite to a real number" certainly is not a proof, but merely another blind assertion.
"It's an idea".
Well, thats interesting. Everything is an Idea, a mental image of what is and what isn't.
Philosophically speaking, Nothing can be proven to truly exist, so your argument is pure philosophical drival.
All math is based upon concepts, and is purely a human invention.
There is no such thing as a number, they all are only conceptual in nature.
So, From your observation, .999... is as real as 1, since both are only ideas.
-Lou
this seems to be a nice way to dismiss my arguements! or do you plan to offer your opinion on how irrational numbers and calculus doesn't exist? i mean, i logically deduced these statements from your arguements!Quote:
Wow.
Discrimination based on my age.
I've already stated what I've needed to in this thread.
*yawn*
How can he discriminate against your age, if he himself is about the same age as yourself?
ok, let me ask you a few questions
does irrational numbers (like e) exist?
does calculus exist?
does limit exist?
does infinite sum exist?
I also wanna ask some questions:
Is DiGiTaLErRoR a jerk? (yes).
I feel the love.
i guess he can't be bothered to answer my questions.
Told you guys... hes just jerking you.
Z.
Does that make you the spooge?Quote:
Originally posted by Zaei
Told you guys... hes just jerking you.
Z.