Politically speaking
Platinum Idiot = Marion Berry
Golden Idiot = GW Bush Tied w/ Al Gore
Silver Idiot = Tony Blair
Bronze Idiot = Jessie "The Body" Ventura
Copper Idiot = Jimmy Carter
Politically speaking
Platinum Idiot = Marion Berry
Golden Idiot = GW Bush Tied w/ Al Gore
Silver Idiot = Tony Blair
Bronze Idiot = Jessie "The Body" Ventura
Copper Idiot = Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by MasterBlaster
Golden Idiot = GW Bush Tied w/ Al Gore (Gore would say that he actually came out ahead)
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Actually, there are a lot of ways a pres. can make us think otherwise, but we know better, DON'T WE? (Actually, we don't)Quote:
Originally posted by Zaei
Yes, he would HAVE to refuse, otherwise we would chuck his ass out the door in a New York minute =).
The other is called "Potomac Fever". Once someone gets to a place in power in Washington, they NEVER want to leave =).
Z.
I guess I'm just a heretic. Heehee.
I think that he'd like us to think that he wasnt a moron, but we still do =).
Z.
Actually, time is reversing....
Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush.... what could be next.... 0.0!
Z.
This is all fair enough, and a possibility. However, it seems to me that Saddam is pretty good at making the most of propaganda opportunities regarding the hostilities towards Iraq coming from the West. Saddam is a bad leader for the country. It seems obvious to us as outsiders, although our vision is probably coloured by our own media propaganda. He has to control the emotions of his people in order to stay in power. If the people are starving, he can blame it on the sanctions, regardless of whether they are the problem. If the West makes threats, he can get the Iraqi people into a patriotic trance, just as Bush has done with the terrorist threats. As Goerring says, it's not difficult to control the attitudes of the general populace.Quote:
Originally posted by MasterBlaster
A: Correct, Bush is a golden Idiot. No Arguing that.
B: You dont Need Weapons inspectors in the US. Your govenrment already knows what we have down to what model of rockets they are sitting on. The US in not secretive of what weapons they have, just where they hide them. As does China, Russiawell the ones they havent forgotten about or misplaced :rolleyes:, China, Great Britian, France, India, Pakistan..... Remember eairlier this year when all of the nuclear powers got togeather and added up how many nukes each other has and how many they would be able to keep? Saddam says he dosn't have any. If he dosnt then why won't he prove it? Planning a suprise attack on his neighbors mabe? Selling suitcase biobombs to terrorists mabe? He wants to test fire a couple off at Iran and Israel before he gets blown back into the stone age, mabe?
Not publicly divulging the information or proving the information incorrect suggests something is out of the ordinary. If all it took to avoid this was to allow comprehensive weapons inspections like he agreed to in the first place to save his life then what is he hiding? He says the inspectors were spies? Spying on what? He's not supposed to have a military. The UN promised to defend his country in case of attack after the first war and I'm damn sure the UN would do a better job at that than he could. What else could we possibly be spying on? Oh forget it, I know, its the Nuke, Bio and chem bombs he's building. Or mabe it's the cash he's hoarding that is supposed to be feeding his people.
So, what I'm saying is, I think he'd refuse entry whether he had the weapons or not. If he's got them, he doesn't want the inspectors in for obvious reasons. If he hasn't got them, it's a tremensously easy way to distract the Iraqi populace from the problems he's causing and shift the blame and the focus. The only reason he ever allowed them in was because he was getting his arse kicked. I don't expect him to allow them in again unless the same happens again.
Please don't say Reagan !!!:eek:Quote:
Originally posted by Zaei
Actually, time is reversing....
Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush.... what could be next.... 0.0!
Z.
One of my friends was working in a Physics Lab recently, and one of his co-workers told him that if a fairly large Nuclear Device were to be detonated ~5 miles above North America, it would knock out all electronic devices in said North America.\
Actually, that has nothing to do with the discussion... What we should REALLY do is drill a big hole into the Earth's mantle, and set off a couple thousand nukes, and just kill everyone =). One, none of us would care (we'd be dead), we wouldnt have anymore of these quandries =).
j/k =).
Z.
You said it, not me =P.Quote:
Originally posted by maxl
Please don't say Reagan !!!:eek:
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I don't really want to get into this, but I think we should let Saddam do whatever the hell he wants over there. If he nukes Israel, then so be it. Once he does that, we won't have to worry about those idiots causing problems in the mid east, then we can have a reason to go in and blow him. It won't be a good reason (defending the dead Israelites) but it will be enough to get some of the American population on the military's side. I think we should stay out until they do something stupid, then if (and that's a big IF) they do do something stupid, then by all means we should go in and do something stupid to them. But, if they are just hoarding money and starving their own people, then that's their problem... less people to deal with if we ever do want to go attack them.
Is that what Bush wants to do? I don't see why everyone is complaining then. The world needs more love. :)Quote:
Originally posted by MidgetsBro
then we can have a reason to go in and blow him.
No suprises here... the same people who think abortion is OK are the same people who think saddam husaine should be left alone....A bunch of communists...the lot of yah.
Have a problems with socialists have we?:rolleyes:Quote:
No suprises here... the same people who think abortion is OK are the same people who think saddam husaine should be left alone....A bunch of communists...the lot of yah.
Definately one of your more ludicrous and less though-out statements. But hey, keep pluggin' tiger. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Arc
No suprises here... the same people who think abortion is OK are the same people who think saddam husaine should be left alone....A bunch of communists...the lot of yah.
I wonder who's the communist? The one who expresses ideas or the one who tries to stop toe one from expressing ideas?Quote:
Originally posted by Arc
No suprises here... the same people who think abortion is OK are the same people who think saddam husaine should be left alone....A bunch of communists...the lot of yah.
If you are pro-democracy, then why are you so anti-opinionist?
Yet another communist exposes his inept abbility to read and then understand what he read.
Microbasic...please explain where exactly it was that i said people weren't allowed to express thier opinions?
You are prefectly allowed to say whatever you want.... and i am perfectly allowed to point out that you and anyone who thinks that sadam should be left alone are communist/democrat/bleeding heart liberal bafoons.
Arc... please explain what abortion has to do with communism? Or illiteracy... Actually, isnt it Saddam himself who is forcing illiteracy on most of his people?
Or is "communist" simply your big word for "person"?
If you dont have any real argument to hold up your point of view, please refrain from insulting people. Its bad taste.
Z.
He's probably one of those cowboys who thinks that anybody who thinks differently than him is a communist even dough he probably doesn't even know what communism is.
lol... I think just this sums up how much you know about what is and isn't communism ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Arc
... are communist/democrat/ ....
Arc, you are perfectly entitled to point out whatever you like, but if you don't back up your opinions with anything but pigeonholing and insults, we're all perfectly entitled to read what you say, chuckle, make fun of you and move on to something more interesting, like contributing to a discussion of a serious issue.
Now I remember why I put him on ignore. Some things never change. :rolleyes:
Abortion has nothing to do with communism. I was refering to an argument on this message board a couple months ago where Abortion was the topic. And from what i've read, the same people who were for Abortion are also the same ones who think we should leave Sadam alone and let him build up his arsonel of chemical and biological weapons.
My comment of Communist/Democrat...well if you werent aware, democrats believe in socialism..which is the very principle communism is built upon, except it's not quite as bad. This is where the term "Pinko" comes from, becasue they aren't actualy full blooded communist they are diluted a bit..making them pink.
How does communism relate to Sadam? Well it doesn't really. I just call all bleeding heart liberal democrats, Communists...because at heart that's what they really are..wether they know it or not.
Essentially:
"I have no backing for anything I say, and anyone who wants to present some alternative to my views is a communist... whether they know it or not"
So all democrats are communists, and all teenagers are on drugs, and all black people are gangsters, and all priests are child molesters. Yep, makes perfect sense to me...
Z.
Well, Arc. You scored a perfect 10/10 for stupidity with those comments. However, your substance and reasoning really let you down... :(
Methinks we have another Justin here....
Zaei, i know you were being sarcastic....but the funny thing is you are right!Quote:
Originally posted by Zaei
Essentially:
So all democrats are communists, and all teenagers are on drugs, and all black people are gangsters, and all priests are child molesters. Yep, makes perfect sense to me...
Z.
One can never use the word "all" because there are exceptions to every rule, but i would say around 90% of Democrats are socialist, 90% of Teenagers do or have used drugs, 90% of black people are or were in gangs, and 90% of priests molest children.
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Originally posted by rjlohan
Well, Arc. You scored a perfect 10/10 for stupidity with those comments. However, your substance and reasoning really let you down... :(
Methinks we have another Justin here....
This coming from the guy who doesnt know the difference between an Unprovoked attack and a Pre-emptive strike.:rolleyes:
So Arc, are you just trying to rile people with ignorance, or are you really that pathetically moronic?
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I am very disappointed and terrified. :(:eek:Quote:
Originally posted by Arc
Zaei, i know you were being sarcastic....but the funny thing is you are right!
One can never use the word "all" because there are exceptions to every rule, but i would say around 90% of Democrats are socialist, 90% of Teenagers do or have used drugs, 90% of black people are or were in gangs, and 90% of priests molest children.
The only moronic people I see around here are the ones that think that America should let one of it's worst enemys and KNOWN bullies build up a stock pile of chemical and biological weapons to attack it and it's allies with(namely Isreal).
Yes sir, sargeant beefcake!
:cool:
I whole heartedly agree.Quote:
Originally posted by crptcblade
I am very disappointed and terrified. :(:eek:
Z.
From my understanding of the political positioning of the US Democrat Party (or whatever they call themselves), they are far from socialist, compared to the political opinions held across the rest of the world, anyway. The irony is that you think a party that is named after democracy is communist. Which is just ridiculous.
I have no idea about who you are or what you do with your life... but then that doesn't seem to stop you from forming irrational and stupid opinions about people, so I'm just gonna suggest that you go back and sit on your porch, with your shotgun across your lap and play the banjo with your webbed fingers, while your 36 children procreate with each other and the pigs in the barn.
Yeah, Mizzorah's luverly this time of year.Quote:
Originally posted by HarryW
I have no idea about who you are or what you do with your life... but then that doesn't seem to stop you from forming irrational and stupid opinions about people, so I'm just gonna suggest that you go back and sit on your porch, with your shotgun across your lap and play the banjo with your webbed fingers, while your 36 children procreate with each other and the pigs in the barn.
:p
Well its great to walk back in here after 6 weeks and see crap like that...:rolleyes: :pQuote:
Originally posted by Arc
Zaei, i know you were being sarcastic....but the funny thing is you are right!
One can never use the word "all" because there are exceptions to every rule, but i would say around 90% of Democrats are socialist, 90% of Teenagers do or have used drugs, 90% of black people are or were in gangs, and 90% of priests molest children.
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Originally posted by HarryW
From my understanding of the political positioning of the US Democrat Party (or whatever they call themselves), they are far from socialist, compared to the political opinions held across the rest of the world, anyway. The irony is that you think a party that is named after democracy is communist. Which is just ridiculous.
I have no idea about who you are or what you do with your life... but then that doesn't seem to stop you from forming irrational and stupid opinions about people, so I'm just gonna suggest that you go back and sit on your porch, with your shotgun across your lap and play the banjo with your webbed fingers, while your 36 children procreate with each other and the pigs in the barn.
Harry? I have no idea where you're from but if you are from America then it's no wonder we have so many democratic morons in office. I mean after all, they're called the "Democratic" party, so they must be really Democratic!:rolleyes: God, I still can't stop laughing over that one.:D If you're not from America then I will excuse your ingonarnce I suppose.
Yes indeed. Most democrats are Socialists. They believe in Taxing you till you bleed, then spending on making the goverment Bigger. They need bigger Goverment to run all the new programs they want to create and to fund all the welfare and project housing and soicialized medicine and Social insecurity etc... etc..
What they want is for all the poor to be givin money from the rich so that everyone is equal to eachother. If Hillary clinto had it her way we would all be assigned housing and jobs at birth and we would just work where we're told and live where we're told our whole lives and be happy.
Well, in my book that sounds an awfull lot like what russia used to be. Did you know that U.S.S.R. stands for the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics? Huh? Did yah? probably not. Notice the word "Socialists" in there.
Sure socialism sounds good on paper. Everyone will all be taken care of, no poor, no hungry, no one needs medical insurance etc... but in reality it's called Russia.
In America, Democrat doesn't mean Democratic... it means Socialist. If you live in America and you don't know that, then you need to smell the coffee.
I know that's all way off the original topic, but if that's what you wanna talk about it's fine with me.
Arc, you are sadly misguided. Do you know what a democracy is? In a democracy, all elected officials are, well, elected. No, the polls are not fixed, and no, people are not bullied into voting for one candidate or another. Furthermore, you can vote for one of many candidates for a specific office. Hell, if you really cared enough, you could run for office yourself. That is a democracy.
Now, America is a capitalist country. In a capitalist society, companies are encouraged to compete amongst themselves for the peoples business. How many automobile manufacturers are there in this country? On the other hand, in a socialist society, the government owns everything, and, well, there is only one company producing any one thing. Do you know why we have anti-monopoly laws in this country? It is to prevent another Russia. The USSR used to produce cheap junk because the manufacturer had no competition, and thus, no reason to improve.
As for welfare... The reason welfare exists is because we in the US want everyone to have at least a certain standard of living. If a person cannot sustain that, the govt will chip in. There are certainly people who will abuse this, but the majority will not. In fact, it is generally though to be a degrading thing to be on welfare. This is not the socialist "Everyone gets the same ****".
You know, traditionaly, Democrats have been on the side of the well-to-do upper middle class person, while Republicans have been on the other side.
Arc, you are a fool. Every single thing that you have posted in this thread reeks of ignorance. Several people here have attempted to remedy that, but you have continued on your course. Hopfully at some point in your life, you will realize that not every has your view, and that you cannot change others to your views. At other times your views will be plain wrong, and occasionally, it will be slapped in your face. The only way to avoid this is to allow a free exchange of view, whether you agree with them or not. If you do not agree with said views, it is acceptable to debate, but resorting to obviously flawed facts and insults is just unacceptable.
You might want to take a look at some history books, and touch up on your knowledge of the various political systems of the world. It might be an eye opener.
I will no longer reply to your posts on this topic unless specifically addressed.
Z.
So, let me see if I follow your reasoning there Billy Bob. The former USSR had the word 'Socialist' in the words for which that acronym stands, and thus anyone who opposes abortion or another war is a communist?
Tell me Arc - was kindergarten a struggle for you? :confused:
This must be a piss take. And a bad one at that.
If not, you're a sad excuse for a human being.
Case closed.
To sum it up, if your parents are poor then you will be poor too, and if you are poor you don't have the right to be cured, that's for rich people. Anything else is communism.:confused:
I think perhaps you have a slightly unrealistic opinion of what the Democrats actually want. It's certainly not communism, but evidently anything that doesn't involve the poor starving is communism to you, so it's ok, I'll excuse your ingonarnce too.Quote:
Originally posted by Arc
Harry? I have no idea where you're from but if you are from America then it's no wonder we have so many democratic morons in office. I mean after all, they're called the "Democratic" party, so they must be really Democratic!:rolleyes: God, I still can't stop laughing over that one.:D If you're not from America then I will excuse your ingonarnce I suppose.
Yes indeed. Most democrats are Socialists. They believe in Taxing you till you bleed, then spending on making the goverment Bigger. They need bigger Goverment to run all the new programs they want to create and to fund all the welfare and project housing and soicialized medicine and Social insecurity etc... etc..
What they want is for all the poor to be givin money from the rich so that everyone is equal to eachother. If Hillary clinto had it her way we would all be assigned housing and jobs at birth and we would just work where we're told and live where we're told our whole lives and be happy.
I did indeed know that, surprise surprise. I see the word. It's got the word 'socialist' in it so that must be the exact definition of socialism, right? I can't stop laughing over that one.Quote:
Well, in my book that sounds an awfull lot like what russia used to be. Did you know that U.S.S.R. stands for the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics? Huh? Did yah? probably not. Notice the word "Socialists" in there.
You're right, this is way off topic. I'd like to see a genuine contribution to the intended topic from you. Not just 'f-kin commie bastards the lot of you', that's not a contribution, that's an obstruction. If you think attacking Iraq again is very obviously the right thing to do then say why. Someone may have a counterpoint to your reasoning.