I've never seen any suicide zebras
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I've never seen any suicide zebras
you need to watch more nature showsQuote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
I've never seen any suicide zebras
nah, all they seem to have is lions ****in' each other over, dung beetles rolling up shiyat and Wilderbeast humping
Not my idea of entertainment; except the humping of course...err...did I say that out loud?
I wasn't calling you an idiot. By "that idiot" I meant W.Bush. Calling terrorism evil doesn't define terrorism and therefore doesn't define who are the terrorists -- acusations that the Israelis are getting right now.
I'll see your links. But that doesn't mean I didn't get a look at the other side already and I believe I won't see anything new...
Since everyone gives opinions, here's mine:
Terrorists attack civilians and protect themselves with their own "civilians" (women but mostly children)
If the Israeli act like this, I'm a flying blue pig. :rolleyes:
>>>Arafat wants peace more than Israel does
>>>O how I wish Clinton was still president.
Clinton himself would tell you how disappointed he was when he had the two sides on the brink of peace only for Arafat to reject the Isreali offer of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and part of Jerusalem. Not only did Arafat reject the offer, he never even made a counter-proposal.
The natural reaction of the Israeli people to the failure to reach a peaceful agreement was to elect a hardliner like Sharon.
All this Bush bashing is comical. Bush's national approval rating is between 80 - 90% and it just goes to show that no matter what the poll is about, there's a 10% margin of idiots.
Quote:
Originally posted by mikeycorn
>>>Arafat wants peace more than Israel does
>>>O how I wish Clinton was still president.
Clinton himself would tell you how disappointed he was when he had the two sides on the brink of peace only for Arafat to reject the Isreali offer of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and part of Jerusalem. Not only did Arafat reject the offer, he never even made a counter-proposal.
The natural reaction of the Israeli people to the failure to reach a peaceful agreement was to elect a hardliner like Sharon.
All this Bush bashing is comical. Bush's national approval rating is between 80 - 90% and it just goes to show that no matter what the poll is about, there's a 10% margin of idiots.
aint Hillary a jew?
Israels only chance of a mass acceptance for PEACE is the saudi plan,
Hillary is the farthest thing from a Jew, in fact, she has been accused by more than one person of using anti-Semetic slurs. When it comes to the Middle East, she's always sided with the Palestinians.
From your second link:
Click here if you want to see the picture
I know this picture. The guy bleeding is a Jew from Boston. He was in Ramallah in a cab and a mob of palestinians took him out and his friend. The Israeli policemen which was cut out of the picture is clearing the people away from him. The French newspapers used this picture the same way it's being used on this site
From your first link, I suggest you read "Which came first: Terrorism or Ocupation?" from the mfa site. The site is currently off and it's not the first time. Hackers always strike this site when there's something "big" in the Middle-East conflict and it was probably what happened. It will be back.
u betta sell lota that shareware to make up that fone bill
:D :D :D :D :D
MOON whats the big deal with that picture
some guy bleeding, geez big deal
how about show some with palestinians have their arms and legs removed from tanks shells
:) Yeah your right i'm beeing ridiculous... I'm just tired of all this conflict. It's better to have a drink and calm down. Let history be the judge. :)Quote:
Originally posted by kovan
u betta sell lota that shareware to make up that fone bill
:D :D :D :D :D
MOON whats the big deal with that picture
some guy bleeding, geez big deal
how about show some with palestinians have their arms and legs removed from tanks shells
>>>u betta sell lota that shareware to make up that fone bill
:p
Insha'Allah
use words that mean something to youQuote:
Originally posted by mikeycorn
>>>u betta sell lota that shareware to make up that fone bill
:p
Insha'Allah
*kovan jabs you some more*
God willing.
Actually, tank shells don't blow of arms, they blow up the whole thing. There isnt anything left.Quote:
Originally posted by kovan
u betta sell lota that shareware to make up that fone bill
:D :D :D :D :D
MOON whats the big deal with that picture
some guy bleeding, geez big deal
how about show some with palestinians have their arms and legs removed from tanks shells
The Isreally army isnt stupid, even if they wanted to kill people en masse, tank shells are the most inefficient way of doing that there is.
rockets from F-16's?Quote:
Originally posted by nishantp
Actually, tank shells don't blow of arms, they blow up the whole thing. There isnt anything left.
The Isreally army isnt stupid, even if they wanted to kill people en masse, tank shells are the most inefficient way of doing that there is.
and actually tank shells do blow off arms and legs
2 of my uncles lost their legs to tank shells
Please give them my condolences then.
When posting to a Thread like this, it seems correct to mention back ground for those who might not know. It puts some perspective on prejudices. I am an atheist who was initially brought up as a Quaker (obscure Christian sect with little dogma & no rituals).
It seems to me that a lot of the people posting here have little historical knowledge of Palestine/Israel. Following is some history after which I briefly mention my opinions.
First of all, talking about who owned what way back when is a silly waste of time. Who do you pick from 500 to 5000 years of history if not the ones in charge now? Pick a winner from the following historical outline.
The Jews were intermittently in charge from about 1000-1500 BC to about 100-200 BC, with various countries conquering them from time to time. They had taken over from some people long since forgotten. The Romans took over in about 100 BC and dispersed most of the Jews about 70-80 AD due to an attempted Jewish revolution. Israel was pretty much destroyed in about 600 AD. Various Arab cultures were in charge between the Romans and the Turks. Turkey was in charge of Palestine/Israel for about 200 or more years, ending when they chose the losing side in the First World War. England was in charge from about 1918 to 1948. In return for help during the First World War, Britain promised to establish a Jewish State, but did not follow through on that promise. Jews had started coming back to Israel in the late 1800's, and many went there between the First & Second World Wars. There were probably a few Jews there at all times since about 1000 BC.
In 1948, partly due to world wide guilt over the holocaust and partly due to various political pressures & problems, England, at UN urging, partitioned British Palestine into Jewish and Palestinian sections. Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, & Iraq attacked almost immediately after the British left. The Jews pretty much defeated the Arabs, although Jordan ended up in charge of the West Bank. Israel took the West Bank back in a war in 1967. I do not remember who was given the West Bank when the English left.
When the war broke out in 1984, the Arabs declared that Israel had no right to exist. They also threatened to punish Arabs staying in Israel as collaborators and traitors. Partly due to the urging of the Arabs, partly due to pressure from Israelis, and partly due to fear of being in a war zone, many Palestinians left Israel during the 1948-1949 war.
I was sent to Israel in 1960-1961 by a company which sold computers to the Israeli Department of Defense. While there, I made friends with Albert (Anglicized version of an Arabic name), who was a wealthy Islamic Arab. He and his father stayed in Israel when the 1948 war started because they owned valuable real estate and a construction business. They did not trust the Arabs to return their property and money if they left. They also felt sure they could bribe Arab conquerors if they stayed put and converted a lot of cash into hidden stores of jewelry & gold. They also trusted the Israelis to treat them fairly if they stayed neutral. They claimed that most Arabs could have stayed in Israel, and had been foolish to leave. They also felt that the Arab nations had an obligation to resettle the Palestinians in Arab countries since they been the basic cause of the Palestinian exodus.
From what I saw while in Israel, the Jews turned a forlorn desert region into a prosperous country. If they do not have a right to be there, who does? Certainly not the Palestinians who left when the going got rough. If the Palestinians want to talk about who owned what in the past, do they want to turn the country over to the Turks or the British? Or maybe to the Italians, who are successors of the Romans? Why do they think they have a right to property they left over 50 years ago?
If taken from the Jews, I would sooner see it given back to the Turks or the British. Psychotics who think it is a good idea to encourage suicide bombers to attack civilians do not deserve to own or run a country. It makes me ill when I hear parents of the suicides praise such actions. The Palestinians should be dispersed among the populations of various Arab countries.
When I saw Palestinians (and other Arabs) celebrating the World Trade Center disaster, they lost the last bit of sympathy I had for them. I would not want to Nuke them, but I would not lift my little finger to help them out of their misery. They deserve what they have gotten.
Sorry fell asleep during that recital....
- The current Israeli incursions under the banner "War against Terrorism" Sharon's words, seems an attempt to jump on the US bandwagon...........
again you seem pretty ignorant as to seeing few celebrate *which of course was made even bigger by media* while ALMOST ALL muslims condemn the attacks on WTCQuote:
Originally posted by Guv
When posting to a Thread like this, it seems correct to mention back ground for those who might not know. It puts some perspective on prejudices. I am an atheist who was initially brought up as a Quaker (obscure Christian sect with little dogma & no rituals).
It seems to me that a lot of the people posting here have little historical knowledge of Palestine/Israel. Following is some history after which I briefly mention my opinions.
First of all, talking about who owned what way back when is a silly waste of time. Who do you pick from 500 to 5000 years of history if not the ones in charge now? Pick a winner from the following historical outline.
The Jews were intermittently in charge from about 1000-1500 BC to about 100-200 BC, with various countries conquering them from time to time. They had taken over from some people long since forgotten. The Romans took over in about 100 BC and dispersed most of the Jews about 70-80 AD due to an attempted Jewish revolution. Israel was pretty much destroyed in about 600 AD. Various Arab cultures were in charge between the Romans and the Turks. Turkey was in charge of Palestine/Israel for about 200 or more years, ending when they chose the losing side in the First World War. England was in charge from about 1918 to 1948. In return for help during the First World War, Britain promised to establish a Jewish State, but did not follow through on that promise. Jews had started coming back to Israel in the late 1800's, and many went there between the First & Second World Wars. There were probably a few Jews there at all times since about 1000 BC.
In 1948, partly due to world wide guilt over the holocaust and partly due to various political pressures & problems, England, at UN urging, partitioned British Palestine into Jewish and Palestinian sections. Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, & Iraq attacked almost immediately after the British left. The Jews pretty much defeated the Arabs, although Jordan ended up in charge of the West Bank. Israel took the West Bank back in a war in 1967. I do not remember who was given the West Bank when the English left.
When the war broke out in 1984, the Arabs declared that Israel had no right to exist. They also threatened to punish Arabs staying in Israel as collaborators and traitors. Partly due to the urging of the Arabs, partly due to pressure from Israelis, and partly due to fear of being in a war zone, many Palestinians left Israel during the 1948-1949 war.
I was sent to Israel in 1960-1961 by a company which sold computers to the Israeli Department of Defense. While there, I made friends with Albert (Anglicized version of an Arabic name), who was a wealthy Islamic Arab. He and his father stayed in Israel when the 1948 war started because they owned valuable real estate and a construction business. They did not trust the Arabs to return their property and money if they left. They also felt sure they could bribe Arab conquerors if they stayed put and converted a lot of cash into hidden stores of jewelry & gold. They also trusted the Israelis to treat them fairly if they stayed neutral. They claimed that most Arabs could have stayed in Israel, and had been foolish to leave. They also felt that the Arab nations had an obligation to resettle the Palestinians in Arab countries since they been the basic cause of the Palestinian exodus.
From what I saw while in Israel, the Jews turned a forlorn desert region into a prosperous country. If they do not have a right to be there, who does? Certainly not the Palestinians who left when the going got rough. If the Palestinians want to talk about who owned what in the past, do they want to turn the country over to the Turks or the British? Or maybe to the Italians, who are successors of the Romans? Why do they think they have a right to property they left over 50 years ago?
If taken from the Jews, I would sooner see it given back to the Turks or the British. Psychotics who think it is a good idea to encourage suicide bombers to attack civilians do not deserve to own or run a country. It makes me ill when I hear parents of the suicides praise such actions. The Palestinians should be dispersed among the populations of various Arab countries.
When I saw Palestinians (and other Arabs) celebrating the World Trade Center disaster, they lost the last bit of sympathy I had for them. I would not want to Nuke them, but I would not lift my little finger to help them out of their misery. They deserve what they have gotten.
you just need an excuse to take the side of israelis, which is fine
just dont say you had any sympathy for palestinians,
read your previous threads before you make such statement
as for "they deserve what they get"
i hope you get a flesh disease that eats you out from head to toe
its too bad one of those wtc planes didnt crash on your head and all the idiots like you, sympathy goes towards families of those that might have been in the plane when they would kill a ignorant person like you
as there is a saying "where ever the string gets thiner then thats where it should break" (translated saying)Quote:
Originally posted by Jethro
Sorry fell asleep during that recital....
- The current Israeli incursions under the banner "War against Terrorism" Sharon's words, seems an attempt to jump on the US bandwagon...........
this will not go far, clearly all muslims are not falling for it
including the rest of the world i might add *with exception of US*
All Peace talks/deals are a waste of time.
The hatred is so inbred that certain radical factions from both/either side will stuff it up.
My solution..
A 'best out of 3' game of Twister between Sheron and Arafat,
winner take all.:)
Nah. Rock-Paper-Scissors would work better cause they're both old geysers.
Actually you may be right there nishantp.
I just had a mental image of massive bum crack as Arafat bends over for 'Left-hand Blue'. *Shiver*
:)
Israel doesn't want international monitoring because it's the only country with nuclear weapons at the meantime,they have the latest weapons while surrounding countries has the latest weapons without the latest technology:rolleyes:
Considering that is an israeli's picture from a palestinain site(I've :rolleyes: got it from a palestinian site concerning jews acts aginst palst.),and the soldier maybe he is some poor Israeli trying to get people away from the guy,:eek: , he's a palestinian who's left bleeding.
,what about the other pictures?
And for history yes Jerusalem was occupied many times but it was never a desert as Israel claim, it was a heaven and it still ( GOD had chosen it as a holy land),and for arabs who where forced to leave their countries, Here is the story:
Under weapons threat Palestinian people where gathered at the borders,Jews claiming for them to get new id cards(happened in one area,I'm saying it as an example ), children,women,men had to shoose either to go out of borders or they'll be killed,lots were killed and about 750 000 were forced to leave to other countries like Jordan,Syria,Egypt,Lebanon walking for days with no food,no water,no money,they left everything back home ,lots died through the way some had reached these other countries (this is the unpublished story that the Israeli's claim is not true and they left by themselves):confused:
and for the one who said I'll kill a child for throwing a rock at my tank everyday ah (no comment)
thanx
I'll make no further comments nad_scorp even though I'm tempted. :) I'm tired of the all the situation and a never ending discussion won't make me feel better.
Ironicaly the humour behind the nonsense did make me feel better and I encourage it. :D
He was talking about Arabs. You are addressing a different point.Quote:
Originally posted by kovan
again you seem pretty ignorant as to seeing few celebrate *which of course was made even bigger by media* while ALMOST ALL muslims condemn the attacks on WTC
Well none of this seems to be really saying anything worth a damn.Quote:
Originally posted by kovan
you just need an excuse to take the side of israelis, which is fine
just dont say you had any sympathy for palestinians,
read your previous threads before you make such statement
as for "they deserve what they get"
i hope you get a flesh disease that eats you out from head to toe
its too bad one of those wtc planes didnt crash on your head and all the idiots like you, sympathy goes towards families of those that might have been in the plane when they would kill a ignorant person like you
OK , my consistensy on replying to this thread is to spot some light on the current situation in palestine , I've never seen anything like it before , Israel is doing horrible crimes
Peace 4 u MOON;)
did i force you to read it?Quote:
Originally posted by HarryW
He was talking about Arabs. You are addressing a different point.
Well none of this seems to be really saying anything worth a damn.
no
so shut up
so b/c she sided with the Palestenians that signifies that she is racista against jews? That makes 0 sense. Maybe she has a heart and actually feels sympathy for the hundreds and hundreds of Palestenians that were killed under Israelie oppression. You misuse the word anti-Semetic.Quote:
Originally posted by mikeycorn
Hillary is the farthest thing from a Jew, in fact, she has been accused by more than one person of using anti-Semetic slurs. When it comes to the Middle East, she's always sided with the Palestinians.
I see you're using some of your 'special' kovan logic here. I didn't force you to read it either. Maybe you'd like to shut your hole instead.Quote:
Originally posted by kovan
did i force you to read it?
no
so shut up
"you just need an excuse to take the side of israelis, which is fine
just dont say you had any sympathy for palestinians,
read your previous threads before you make such statement
as for "they deserve what they get"
i hope you get a flesh disease that eats you out from head to toe
its too bad one of those wtc planes didnt crash on your head and all the idiots like you, sympathy goes towards families of those that might have been in the plane when they would kill a ignorant person like you "
Was gonna say the same thing except add profanity and then threaten to kick his ass if he enters a one mile radius from where I live.
oh i will just listen to Harry
NOT
No, he said that she has been seen as anti-Semitic because she has used what some people think are anti-Semitic slurs. That's nothing to do with Palestine.Quote:
Originally posted by STT
so b/c she sided with the Palestenians that signifies that she is racista against jews?
o wait let me reconsider that harry
i guess i am trying to use "special" logic because this the only form of communication retards will undrestand
Yip, another one to the ignore list. You sometimes are such a misguided boy :rolleyes:
Go ahead, flame me now, go on showing your maturity to the rest of the world ... See if I care.
Can you feel the love?Quote:
Originally posted by STT
"you just need an excuse to take the side of israelis, which is fine
just dont say you had any sympathy for palestinians,
read your previous threads before you make such statement
as for "they deserve what they get"
i hope you get a flesh disease that eats you out from head to toe
its too bad one of those wtc planes didnt crash on your head and all the idiots like you, sympathy goes towards families of those that might have been in the plane when they would kill a ignorant person like you "
Was gonna say the same thing except add profanity and then threaten to kick his ass if he enters a one mile radius from where I live.
Do you see the tolerance?
Gee, it's good to be able to pretend you're morally in the right on the one hand, and yet wish someone to get a horrible flesh-eating disease on the other. Or maybe just die in a plane crash. Wow, you're letting him off easy there. I mean he did express an opinion that is contrary to yours, and surely he should die for that.
That's nice kovan.Quote:
Originally posted by kovan
o wait let me reconsider that harry
i guess i am trying to use "special" logic because this the only form of communication retards will undrestand
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.
let me rephrase
STFU
http://www.cactus48.com/
http://www.cactus48.com/murder.html
Hit on those links and see the brutalization of the Palestenians. Every Palestenian has seen or has been harmed by this...
However hard I wished there was no fighting at all in the Middle East, it does not give way to targeting religious (mainly jewish) buildings and places in countries that are more than 4000 km away from the fray. :mad:
I don't know who these idiots are and what they are trying to accomplish but this is definately not the way to go about it.
Idiots :mad: