Protest Moderation

Yes,

Talk about anything

Any subject CAN be talked about here.
Thats freedom.
Nobody has said ANYTHING about you can't talk about things, anything!

BUT, obviously, if you talk about things in a manner that is rude and offensive, well, guess what. I don't think its appropriate.

The subject will go on, but will you?

And, again, if you didn't pick up on this previously, or if I was muddled a bit, WHY be RUDE? A topic can be discussed without offensiveness, and as MEG has pointed out, THATS about the only thing the moderators are about.

Except for that GLOBAL WARMING THING {HA HA}

-Lou

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Not pointing fingers at anyone, but if people want to make comments about our standards in Chit Chat they should at least be a regular poster and read the threads and understand the people behind the usernames.

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More irony????? lol This kills me :D

Yeah i am not a poster to chit chat normally cos i read a few bits and it all seems like tits and ass humour with little wit but that is just my opinion.

So you're saying you feel "offended" by our slightly more mature humour?

And it's not really irony because although there's a surface of this slightly dodgy humour it's actually quite deep :) Read through the Post Race for a heavy chronicle of Chit Chat and the people in it. I expect there's more than a few emotional moments in there.

I'm sorry,

Your post race isn't "Mature" just by its intention.
No subject, no goal except to see how far you can go.

Now, that in itself isn't criticizable. "To Boldly Go..." is admirable.

But to point it out as a sign of "maturity" is, ahem, Laughable.

"Hey, Guess what! I Posted ALOT!"

And You're proud of THAT!
You should rather boast about your C Programming and VB accomplishments.

Again, though, WHAT is your beef about Moderation and Chit_Chat! Nothing Relevent to fuel your Vent has Happened!

-Lou

Sorry Parksie, my irony reference wasnt to the humour but to the fact that u innocently said that for ppl to comment they should at least have read the posts etc. This is perfectly valid but u are in effect setting a 'standard' for replies. They exist everywhere and are intrinsic to communication at every level. I am not a supporter of censorship at all and i generally believe in ppl's abilities to be discerning but u have to admit that some standards are needed for ppl to interact. Anyway, that is my opinion and i dont dispute ur right to yours. In fact if the arguments against moderation were conducted as civilly as the case you are putting forward then i think this problem can be solved very quickly and easily. :)

Except for Gestapo John!

OOPS, who did that again?

-Lou

Now, THAT was mature!

Yes, but that was a shock tactic :)

So you're saying you feel "offended" by our slightly more mature humour

Yepp.

And apparently you thought John also was.

Hence, Your "Apology".

However, the whole intention behind "Gestapo John" wasn't humour, but maliciousness.

No matter what you said in your "Apology".

Especially, and I Quote...

, other than him starting it all off

within two lines of your confession, YOU BLAME HIM for your actions.

I'm sorry. He made a personal business decision. YOU took it
to the extreme.'

-Lou

Yes, but that was a shock tactic

OOOH, Ok!

Thats OK then!

yaa, Right!

-Lou

Not malicious - a joke. There's a difference, which seems to be something that a lot of people can't see, hence many of the problems we're having.

I don't blame him for OUR actions. I don't blame him for HIS actions. I'm just saying that if people had been more reasonable, then John wouldn't have been forced into appointing moderators who buggered up their first day on the job and pissed off a lot of people.

Well?

Again, though, WHAT is your beef about Moderation and Chit_Chat! Nothing Relevent to fuel your Vent has Happened

-Lou

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Originally posted by NotLKH
Yes, but that was a shock tactic

OOOH, Ok!

Thats OK then!

yaa, Right!

-Lou

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Just wondering, but where are you from? Probably not the UK I imagine...

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Originally posted by NotLKH
Well?

Again, though, WHAT is your beef about Moderation and Chit_Chat! Nothing Relevent to fuel your Vent has Happened

-Lou

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See the "Kovan's Mom" thread. Also, the "xxx is gay" threads got deleted and they didn't cause anyone any harm and were just a good bit of fun.

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I'm just saying that if people had been more reasonable, then John wouldn't have been forced into appointing moderators

Ok, I'll lay off a little here.
So you're now saying that you understand the neccessity of moderators, since John was "Forced" into it by
the general people in chit-chat and other forums.

-Lou

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Originally posted by parksie
they didn't cause anyone any harm and were just a good bit of fun.

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I'll buy that, if you can prove it. BUT, how do you KNOW?
Were you privy to any Behind the scenes actions?

ie... Private e-mails to john, if their were any,?

-Lou

Sort of. The real problem that I have is with the fact that random people (according to John, and I have no reason not to trust him) have reported posts on grounds of offence. If they had come to us instead, we could have sorted it all out by changing our attitudes in response to a reasonable request.

If they want to hide behind the anonymity of the reporting features and take potshots at us then I don't see why we should go out of our way to accommodate them.

BTW, if you want racy humour among Members,
you can still do it thru private e-mail.

Thats always an option.

-Lou

We can't prove it for reasons stated above.

Yep, already had the humour going between emails with Katie but she's moved off to the other forum now and I'll probably be following.

OK, no attack now.

I feel that, after Identifieng marks have been edited out,
that all e-mails pointing out "offensive" posts should be
placed in a public area for all to see.

And exactly for the reason you just gave, for us to learn
from our mistakes.

-Lou

Ok. Maybe if the report post form sent the content (but not the sender's u/n) to the author of the original post? That way at least they'd be able to do something about it.

That sounds good!
;) ;) ;)
-Lou

Yep! :D

Although don't think that it'll make any difference to what I post, it's whether it stays posted or not :)

BTW,

Under "Community Helpers" Martin said this:

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Originally posted by MartinLiss
I would appreciate your input on what kind of comments, etc should and should not be allowed in the forums.

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I picked up on it, and thought about the "fairness" of hearing suggestions from one individual. Why Not Everybody?

So, I posted this:

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Originally posted by NotLKH


A response to that is quite complex.

I have a simple question.

Exactly where should we formally discuss these suggestions,
How many of the High Five will actually be there to discuss things,
What Time Frame are we talking about, Shouldn't an e-mail notification be forwarded to All Members announcing this Policy "Meeting", what kind of rules will moderate this discussion,
etc...

I think if you are going to ask for input & ideas, a formal agenda
should be set up, or else furthur turmoil might arise.

-Lou

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What do you think?
Are you in favor of a, oh, lets call it a Town Meeting with the Moderators?

BTW, I'm outa here.

-Lou

I totally agree :)

Cya, and good morning (4:55am here :D)

Funny Avatar!
:D :D :D
-Lou

I did it a while ago but never got round to using it, so I thought "why not" and put it in here :)