Timothy McVeigh

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Originally posted by manic_gofar
personally i dont think they should have excecuted him due to the fact that he believed he was doing gods work and it was his personal opinion and by putting him on death row and excecuting him was taking away that freedom true he killed many people but i dont hink it is up to the courts to decide what his fate is and i think the surviving victims and the families of the victims should be the ones to decide what should become of him, i bet that one of the victims would not of sentenced that man to death

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Well, even if one victim's survivors decided to spare is life, what if all the others want him put to death?

That is why we have courts, to make the decision as a group.

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Originally posted by CiberTHuG


A penal colony? Don't you mean Australia.
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Naw, we actually have closed off Botany Bay to illegal immigrants from Pomgolia.

Used to argue for the death penalty, now believe it just lowers our civilisation to the level of the person being executed. Probably in some areas of the world this guy would be considered a hero.

Yea that would kill him anyway..so let's say 15 hours hard... no..deathly hard labor in alaska ( we dont have siberia here in the U.S. so alaska is the only thing we can come up with )..
Hard labor in a frigid climate....how worse can it get?

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Originally posted by Jeff_1
Yea that would kill him anyway..so let's say 15 hours hard... no..deathly hard labor in alaska ( we dont have siberia here in the U.S. so alaska is the only thing we can come up with )..
Hard labor in a frigid climate....how worse can it get?

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Hard labour on the Bush family ranch? Or forced to listen to Jeb Bush rationalisation his anti-democratic stance on constent recall.

They should serve me an undead priest in perpetual agony for all eternity!!!

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Hard labor in a frigid climate....how worse can it get?

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What about hard labour in a hot climate? Perhaps chopping wood in the swamps in the south?

HB: ARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH no!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Behemoth
It was painless, and he died in the cliched "cold, staring" manner of a madman.

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painless, eh?

I thought the injection stopped the lungs for absorbing air?

I think that McVeigh should have been given a pick and shovel and cleaned up the entire mess, 15hrs a day- everyday

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Originally posted by chenko
painless, eh?

I thought the injection stopped the lungs for absorbing air?

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Yeah, but if I understand correctly, he was knocked out by then. If I'm wrong, somebody let me know.

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Originally posted by honeybee
Here is some punishment Jethro would like to give the likes of McVeigh! (OK, this is my guess actually)

Make them maintain VB code to be up-to-date with the latest MS Technology fancies. Especially make them upgrade DAO code to ADO.

Any more such punishments ??

;)

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Naw, force them to rewrite every single data control vb system every written. Hmmm.,.....mind you replacing FindFirst and FindNext methods.

Or

He could have been forced to debug vb.net.

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Originally posted by Tygur

Yeah, but if I understand correctly, he was knocked out by then. If I'm wrong, somebody let me know.

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by the time he started dying, he was completely dissoriented. I doubt he had any more pain than just a ***** in the arm.

There are 3 liquids used,

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A general anethstic, basically the same stuff they use to put you to sleep before an operation.
You have to consider that in a lethal injection, up to 50 Times the amount used in surgery, is injected.
Of course a lethal dosage in itself. I doubt whether the inmate would feel the next bit at all

2nd
A muscle relaxant that paralyses the Diaphram and Lungs

3rd
A toxic poison to interfere with heart signals.


Although this is probally not a painful death, it is not:
An easy death
An easy way out

You just speak to a person on a cancer ward with terminal cancer and see if they would rather do 50 years hard time rather than dying,
Im sure 90% would.

Surely the idea is to punish these people.

We don't want to give them the best of two options do we? They're criminals...

As for all the moaning about it being more expensive to kill them, that's utter drivel.

There should be no holding them on 'death row', no appeal process. If found guilty, hang them the next day. Cheap, efficient, effective.

There is no 100% accurate of determine guilt. It's likely that some innocent people will also be put to the sword due to a wrong verdict, but hey - **** happens.

As long as all reasonable care is taken to prevent this then the system will work to punish offending criminals and also deter would be criminals.

Only the insane are going to commit crimes if they know they is a very high chance that they're going to be torched if they're caught.

Anyway, for a lethal injection it's (mostly) painless, and once you're dead...YOU DON'T CARE! It's not as if McVeigh is worrying about the consequences of his actions now considering that he, as a person, no longer exists :)