If you could change 1 thing about VB what would it be?

There's something weird going on over here with advertising. They seem to think that if they slap the word European on it, Canadians/Americans will think that it must be trendy and buy it.

I often wonder if there's a group of teleshoppers somewhere who have never left their country, who imagine that everyone in Europe is incredibly sophisticated and stylish..... boy are they in for a shock when they visit Glasgow:)

E.G. Alberto shampoo. From the salons of Europe. Okay, it could be from a pokey wee salon in Berwick-upon-tweed. And they have this smarmy guy on going "my name? 'tis Alberto..." oh, very cool.:(

Car ad: Styled in Europe. ... So. Why no ship the designer out here. Wouldn't that have been easier.

The dusting glove: Join the sensation thats sweeping Europe.... Nobody I've spoken to back home has heard of it, so it must be very quietly sweeping Europe. I don't believe it's meant to be a pun either:)

What is this obsession???

Are there teleads over there with people saying "Join the sensation thats sweeping America", I bet they are.

Also, while I'm ranting. All the telesales people have a strong BBC english. Obviosuly this must be a trusted accent that makes people buy things.

Sorry. I'll stop ranting now. Teleshopping - better than any comedy program.

SD

Granted some of the road can get narrow; I was on one today which was about twice as wide as my car; and I have a small car. I might post a picture later so you can see how small. Anyway, that road was narrow, but main roads are just as wide as say French ones. Probably quite that of the German autobahns, but you gt bloody great 40-ton (that's metric ton by the way) lorries down them.

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Sorry SD but the Scorpio (yes, replacement for Granada) is the most ugly car ever to show it's face. God awful and I have seen about 2 on the road ever.

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Weird, there were loads in Scotland when I left (all the Strathclyde police cars for one thing). Maybe they've phased them out. Yeah, it was a pretty ugly car :) no need to apologise for that, but then most cars are. My expedition is ugly, my dad had an ugly volvo (what am I saying, almost all volvo's are ugly), but it was a fabulous car.
Unfortunately the really nice looking cars are absolute crap (The probe was a lovely looking American car, but couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. The old MR2 was nice but way too small, The TR7 was another lovely looking car, pity you could outrun it ona C-5).

Of course, to contradict myself the really expensive cars are nice looking (Jaguar XJ-8... ohhhhhhhhhh... mind you the XJ-K looks like a peice of sh*t).

And yes, the European roads are much narrower.

SD

My mate had a Jag XK8. He sold it for a Merc SLK 430 and he just sold that and bought a Porsche Boxster S. Rich b'stard!!

Ah, now the Boxster, THAT is a lovely looking car..... I'm afraid I'll have to wait till the kids leave home .... and even then they'll have fleeced me of what little money have... so I still won't be able to afford one :(

SD

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Originally posted by SurfDemon
The probe was a lovely looking American car, but couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. The old MR2 was nice but way too small, The TR7 was another lovely looking car, pity you could outrun it ona C-5).

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The Ford Probe was designed by Mazda. It may have even had a Mazda power plant, I'm not sure. I don't think it looked that pretty, but it wasn't very sporty.

The Toyota MR2 is back. The MR-S looks very very georgeous. I'm just not a fan of mid-rear.

When you say C-5, do you mean Corvette C-5? It is a pitty if a Corvette can out run anything, but somewhat surprising if it can take on a TR7. 'Course, I could have the TR7 confused with something else, we don't have any in America.

My favorites right now are the Impreza WRX and the Audi TT (oh and the Porsche 911 Turbo AWD, but who doesn't like that). They look pretty and spank Mustangs. :)

I actually think the Volvos look pretty now. Regretably, they (along with Jaguar) are owned by Ford.

The Audi TT is one sexy car! Wish I had the money to get one.

Yes, yes it is. About 220bhp, turbo 4 cyl. Audi AWD, convertible (good and bad), and comes in a very pretty blue.

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When you say C-5, do you mean Corvette C-5? It is a pitty if a Corvette can out run anything, but somewhat surprising if it can take on a TR7. 'Course, I could have the TR7 confused with something else, we don't have any in America.

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Ha HA HA! Unfortunately you couldn't have been further from the truth. No, the the C-5 I was referring to was a little electric car/bike that was introduced into Britain years ago. It was a complete failure. Here, give yourself a laugh:

http://www.sinclairc5.co.uk/

There used to be an advert in Britain for Peugot "What's yours called?" where people would have little names for their Peugot's.

Well one of the comedians did the same for the C5, except the answer was "My C5's called Richard, because I feel like a dick when I'm driving it" :p

SD

OKay, to demonstrate how narrow this road I went down was, here is the size of my car...tiny!!

And there is also a TT with only a 180bhp engine. The 220 is seriously tuned (and more cash)

What is that, Chris? We don't have them in America. I recgonize the grill insignia, but I can't remember what it is. Citreon or Renault?

I'm going to guess that the 180bhp TT is the only TT available in America. We are finally get the Impreza WRX, and it will be weaker than the Aussie/UK versions, which are very slightly weaker than the Japanese version.

What gets me is, we get weaker turbos because we have tough emission standards (thanks California) but we still let people buy Ford Ex*s.

No it's too small for you guys :D . It is a Citroen, well done (Saxo).

You only just getting the Sub WRX? That is a fine car, until they messed up the front end. I dunno about being weaker than the Jap version. They have a limit of 276 bhp on any car (crazy!!) but we don't so they reckon it's more like 285 here. They just wack the turbo boost up a bit.

Damn those Ford Explorers!! and damn California!!

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...and damn California!!

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Toyota MR2 Spyder.
http://www.isthistoyota.com/MR2Club/default.htm
http://www.isthistoyota.com/MR2Club/...0_home_450.jpg

Need I say any more.

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What's wrong with protecting the environment???

Yes, the MR-S looks beautiful. I'm still not a big fan of mid-engine cars.

As I understand it, Chris, the UK Imprezas also have sideview mirrors that tuck in automaticly. We have to push ours. :(

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and damn California!!

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You are now leaving California... Please resume normal behaviour.

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Hehe:D

Only jesting Katie!! I told you off ages back for your nation's crimes against the environment, remember?

Don't like the new MR2, those h/lights blow.

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What's wrong with protecting the environment???

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Getting good milage out of the Big Suburban are we?:D

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Originally posted by CiberTHuG
As I understand it, Chris, the UK Imprezas also have sideview mirrors that tuck in automaticly. We have to push ours. :(

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I didn't know that (not owning one and all). Do you guys get the Mitsubishi Evo? I reckon that's even better that an WRX. It's faster in a straight line anyway.

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Getting good milage out of the Big Suburban are we?:D

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Damnnnnnnn

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I didn't know that (not owning one and all). Do you guys get the Mitsubishi Evo? I reckon that's even better that an WRX. It's faster in a straight line anyway.

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We never got the Evo. There is a lot we don't get from Mitsubishi. The best thing we got from Mistubishi was their turbo I4 in the Diamond Star Talon/Eclipse line. That was a sweet car, too. Available AWD around 220bhp.

We got their 3000GT-VR4, too. That was a nice car, twin turbo V6. But it weighs soo much (near 5000lbs). Dodge marketed it as the Stealth, but I don't know if they ever sold it with the turbo.

As to which is better the Evo or the Impreza, well... the Impreza was winning the WRC against the Evo. :)

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Getting good milage out of the Big Suburban are we?:D

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16mph...............*ouch*.....but at least I'm not spewing crap into the environment. Some things are worth paying for!

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As to which is better the Evo or the Impreza, well... the Impreza was winning the WRC against the Evo. :)

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True, that that's because of the genius of Colin Macrae (yeras ago) and Richard Burns ;)

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16mph...............*ouch*.....but at least I'm not spewing crap into the environment. Some things are worth paying for!

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:DTree-Hugger:D

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16mph...............*ouch*....

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Is that meant to be 16 mpg?

What do you expect from a liberal democrat??? I don't use pesticides on my garden either! :p

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Is that meant to be 16 mpg?

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oops! Yep, miles per gallon.

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oops! Yep, miles per gallon.

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JESUS!! Mine does 40!! what is your car?

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True, that that's because of the genius of Colin Macrae (yeras ago) and Richard Burns ;)

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Would've been great to watch that. Wish we got real racing (WRC, GT, GT-R) in America. All we have is NASCAR, CART, IRL, and NHRA. NASCAR is not racing, it is just turning left. NHRA really isn't much fun. And while I respect CART and Indy, I just can't get into open-wheeled cars.

This thread is getting much more traffic now that we have stopped talking about VB. And we aren't even talking about sex.

http://www.chevrolet.com/suburban/

I don't know why I'm laughing, I only get about 12mpg in the summertime and about 10mpg in the winter.... and that's Imperial Gallons...ouch.

Luckily the winds blow all of our noxious gases down into some country south of us. Can't remember the name off hand..... but supposedly they end in some western state famous for oranges or some such.

:D

SD

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JESUS!! Mine does 40!! what is your car?

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Your Saxo would fit into the back of her Suburban.

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Originally posted by barrk
http://www.chevrolet.com/suburban/

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Click on the Suburban LS link....that's mine.

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Luckily the winds blow all of our noxious gases down into some country south of us. Can't remember the name off hand..... but supposedly they end in some western state famous for oranges or some such.

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*grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*

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I'd burn ADO, screw the runtimes but other than that, nothing

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What on earth is wrong with ADO? It is one of the most powerful and efficient data access components out there!!!

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http://www.chevrolet.com/suburban/

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That thing is a beast! looks suspiciously like an Explorer (the front does anyway). Do they share the platform?

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Your Saxo would fit into the back of her Suburban.

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Probably!!

NO!!!!!!!!! One's Ford and mine's a Chevy.

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What on earth is wrong with ADO? It is one of the most powerful and efficient data access components out there!!!

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:D :D http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...threadid=78687