And there are lot of people like you there:confused:Quote:
Originally posted by barrk
Nope....Never-neverland...to fet there....just take the third star to the left and straight on 'til morning!:p
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And there are lot of people like you there:confused:Quote:
Originally posted by barrk
Nope....Never-neverland...to fet there....just take the third star to the left and straight on 'til morning!:p
No.....I've been told I'm quite unique!;)Quote:
Originally posted by Kzin
And there are lot of people like you there:confused:
Wrong question ;) are there any other people there?Quote:
Originally posted by barrk
No.....I've been told I'm quite unique!;)
The perfect philosopher is supposed to be the only person capable of making the best descisions in everybody's interest. Probably no such person exists (or ever has) but if there were such a person, it would probably be a much better system that a democratic government.
Would the 'perfect' programmer really make a good president? What makes a perfect programmer?
Only my invisible playmates and the voices in my head!Quote:
Originally posted by Kzin
Wrong question ;) are there any other people there?
On a similar vein, I remember reading a theory that the perfect government is a benign dictatorship. i.e. Someone with absolute power who makes decisions for the best interests of the country.Quote:
Originally posted by simonm
The perfect philosopher is supposed to be the only person capable of making the best descisions in everybody's interest. Probably no such person exists (or ever has) but if there were such a person, it would probably be a much better system that a democratic government.
Would the 'perfect' programmer really make a good president? What makes a perfect programmer?
This happens in war time when re-election is not an issue. For example: Churchill knew in advance that the Germans planned to launch a naval bombardment of the city of Coventry because they had cracked the Enigma code. He had two choices - order the evacuation of the city and save thousands of lives (but also give the game away that they were intercepting the German orders) or Sacrifice the city. He sacrificed the city, a decision he has later stated as being the hardest of the war. Ultimately it was the right choice, reading the Enigma code was regarded as one of the turning points of the war. However an elected politician, concerned for their re-election would have saved the city and possibly lost the war.
Of course the problem then arises: who do you give this absolute power to and how do you make sure they do not abuse it?
Looking at British, American, Irish and Canadian politicians, they're about the most corrupt people in the world..... I wouldn't trust any of them with my kids pocket money.
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As I said before, Plato asserted that only the "perfect philosopher" would be suitable for such a role.Quote:
Of course the problem then arises: who do you give this absolute power to and how do you make sure they do not abuse it?
But the perfect philosopher could easily come up with the premise.Quote:
Originally posted by simonm
As I said before, Plato asserted that only the "perfect philosopher" would be suitable for such a role.
I have absolute power, therefore no-one can take it away from me, therefore I can do what I want, and oh my god look at the size of breasts on her!!!
:D
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I voted for Al Gore, but in Bush's defense, I think it is always easier to mock someone then to appraise someone.
Being in a high political power position or famous role is like a sitting duck. No one can ever satisfied everyone.
You said Bush is unpopular in this forum, well, not everyone in here is from United State. It is like the American citizens judging the President of Japan.
True, it might be easy to poke fun at people in the limelight, but he is one prize plonker.Quote:
Originally posted by Tyler from Alaska
You said Bush is unpopular in this forum, well, not everyone in here is from United State. It is like the American citizens judging the President of Japan.
As for judging him from abroad, I think we have a right. There is a quote in this mornings paper about the defence shield and one of Canada's major objections to it (apart from re-igniting an arms race). When it was mentioned that to intercept Russian missiles, most of the interceptions would have to happen over Western Canada in Canadian airspace, the response was "Well in war all the rules go out of the window." So, thats meant to make invading your friendly neighbours airspace and dropping nuclear waste on their cities okay?
He is the laughing stock of the international comunity (even more so than Creten and Teddy-Blair :)
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Originally posted by SurfDemon
True, it might be easy to poke fun at people in the limelight, but he is one prize plonker.
As for judging him from abroad, I think we have a right.
Everyone has rights and opinions!
I understand your point, but in general, people finds it easier to mock than to appraise.
Maybe some people, but I find there are a lot of people who I admire, and I think alot of people praise where it is deserved. From my perspective (and this seems to be shared by the world), Bush is a terrible President for America, but at least he'll give us a good laugh as we go along.Quote:
Originally posted by Tyler from Alaska
I understand your point, but in general, people finds it easier to mock than to appraise.
Lets see know, he's been in power for what, a few months now?
He's backed out of two global agreements (Kyoto & Star), pissed off all of his allies, screwed the American voters (though you could argue that this doesn't count as he did it before he was President), decided to pump billions of your dollars into a shield which is obsolete before it even starts and seems to be on course to re-ignite the arms race.
I don't know how old you are Tyler, but I grew up during the last arms race, and it wasn't a bundle of laughs. I don't want my kids growing up with that.
This is not mocking him because he is in power, this is mocking him because he's a wally:)
Maybe you can enlighten me to his good points (such as his human-rights record etc.):D
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Here's a list of Bush's good points.........
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well americans you will be pleased to know you are not alone in this missile defense thingy. An aide to Tony Blair has said we more or less support the idea, but a few more details will need to be known and some stuff going over. Apparently the project's success depends on whether we let you use our early-warning radar installations. Interesting.
SurfDemon,
I am not a big fan of Bush. I always have been for Clinton. But you see Clinton's era, the American people nag on his scandal. I personally think that his private life has nothing to do with how he runs the world. I am a big fan of Clinton not Bush. I am just raising the point to Simon that people in general like to point fingers than to appreciate (nothing against your point :))
I think Clinton did a great job with Economic Prosperity regardless whatever he did in his personal life. As I said, I voted for Al Gore, not for Bush.
I agree with you, Tyler.........100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I don't think you meant to say that. Did Clinton run the world? No. He ran 4% of it.Quote:
Originally posted by Tyler from Alaska
how he runs the world
Relax, Chris....America is our "world" figuratively....and that's what it is just a figure of speech. Don't get your panties in a bunch!:pQuote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
Now I don't think you meant to say that. Did Clinton run the world? No. He ran 4% of it.
hey, i'm just bein' pedantic.;) I was sorry to see the old bugger go. He and TB got on famously.
BTW, you forgot one of bush's good points on that there mile-long list of yours...he is an easy target for witty comments. e.g.
- Bush Administration
- Too much bush on TV etc etc
Odd you should say that....my husband truly dislikes our President but he's always said he could never have too much Bush.....I can't understand him sometimes:rolleyes:
Thank You for clearing that up barrk.
It was just a figure of speech Chris.
Well the joke goes "Bush says there is too much gore on TV, Gore says there is too much bush on TV."
There's no sex in your violence! Oddly enough...a song by "Bush"
blimey, the man has his own tribute band. See, someone likes him!!
Okay before Harry or one of you others jump on the band wagon...I know the name of the song is "Everything Zen" but we were talking about Bush (sex) and Gore (violence) and it just wouldn't worked....please forgive me.:rolleyes:
Bush aren't that big here so if Harry did chastise you for that, he'd be one dude in the know.
I was refering to American opinions I'd heard in this forum.Quote:
You said Bush is unpopular in this forum, well, not everyone in here is from United State. It is like the American citizens judging the President of Japan.
And no, I'm not critisising him because he happens to be the president of the richest country in the world...I truly haven't heard anything good about him whatsoever.
I have to say i rather liked Clinton. The only thing that puzzles me is... with all his power was Monica Lewinski the best looking bird he could pull. Because if one of my mates pulled a double bagger like that I'd never let him live it down.:D
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Or so they say.
I thought it was..
beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder:confused:
I agree with beer-holder quote. :)
It's a shame for ole Clinton, 'cause he struck me as the sort of guy you could go to the pub with. I can't really see Bush down the pub, except maybe with his dad to protect him and to buy him a shandy.
In fact, thats it, Bush looks just like a Lager Shandy drinker!!
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