ooohh...
go on then ;)
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ooohh...
go on then ;)
Lynch him!!!!!!!!!!
The meaning of life - always a good question to ask people when they're p***ed :)
Yea.... Just like "how long can you handstand for?" :D (if anyone remembers)
Lynch him - little extreme wouldn't you say ?
Why are you depressed to realise there is no pre-ordained meaning to life? Now, instead of fulfilling a purpose that has been decided for you, you can decide your own purpose and work towards fulfilling it.
Nobody can tell you (although many will try) what your purpose should be, that is up to you.
You may not be able to shake off the feeling that everthing you do is pointless but I say: Everything is as meaningful or as pointless as you want them to be.
In previous threads of yours, I got the impression that you were of a religous nature. Have you lost your faith? If so, do you want to get it back? This is not the place to rediscover your faith so I would look elsewhere if that is the case.
I believe that reality (or our perception of it) is a self imposed prison. Only by realising that can you focus on the obstacle and move round it and be free.
very zen...beautiful...
Kedaman, from youu post on 03-26-2001 04:09 PM, you seem to indicate that there is no reason to eat, because you'll only go hungry at some point. There is no reason to get a girlfriend only to lose her at some point.
I would say you worry too much about things that might go wrong so you don't want them to go right in the first place.
Don't take everything so seriously. The concept "Meaning of Life" does not really make any sense. We don't have a life ... to us humans, there is only now.
Not even the past exists ... it is just what we think we remember right now.
Use now for something useful. And everything matters, but we have no way of seeing how it does. We humans are too limited for that.
Being a musician, I have often written really ****ty songs that sucked. But I did it anyway, put them in a drawer for 6 years. Only last week I found a song written in 1989 -- we play it in the band now, so there was a meaning in the end. Of course it had to be worked on a bit, but it shows that everything is useful ... the trick is to find out what for and when.
Don't be so afraid of losing something that you won't ever get it in the first place. You live now, and there are no guarantees. Enjoy what you have now, and don't think about tomorrow. If things go wrong, deal with it when it happens.
Well judging from your post, "live for the moment, there is no past" it would be acceptable to rob a bank on the spur of the moment as you are grasping the oppurtunity and making the most of life, and no-one will remember anything ?
There is no past in the strictest sense only because you cannot know, with absolute certainty, that you have a past. Your memories may have been implanted.
In our human minds (we are time-bound) ... there is no past, but I think the cops will think they remember you did something wrong.
And the problem is not that you robbed a bank in the past ... the problem is that you did something that they don't accept in a now.
Besides, I am not so sure, people can own things. They can take them and refuse to give them to others, but does that mean they own them?
depends if you use the "finders keepers" rule ...
Everybody loses something, its just a case of remembering about it when you need it the most.... Like love, money and sanity!
I happen to like these "agreements of ownership" that we people use. It is practical. But I don't think we truly OWN the things, although we agree that you own your computer and I won't take it ... it's practical -- not necessarily the only right way.
The governments around the world have no problem taking your house if they need to build a road there. They give you another, though ... does the government own your house or do you?
I think what you're trying to say is -
The only thing that truly exists is now. The past is passed. It does not exist now. Only memories, both mental and physical, but these memories are now. The pyramids in ancient egypt exist today. They do not exist yesterday, because yesterday does not exist (not the same as yesterday did not exist).
The "memories" attached to a past can affect us today, but the past itself can no more affect the present than the future can. (I think). Only the memories of the past and the hopes of the future. And these are very simple human concepts.
don't even get me started with the government ... :mad:
Behemoth, you have understood me quite correctly.
I can't know if this is how it REALLY is -- I am only human.
It may be that all points in time exist simultaneously, but we have no way of telling if so.
The past no lnoger exists.
The future does not yet exist
The present is an infinitely small amount of time.
Therefore, do we exist attall? :rolleyes:
Saying all points in time exist simultaneously is like saying all points in space exist in one place!
i.e. It is a contradiction.
I think that everyone should vote for the Monster Raving Loonie Party! :DQuote:
Originally posted by alex_read
don't even get me started with the government ... :mad:
YES -- but time does not.Quote:
Originally posted by simonm
The past no lnoger exists.
The future does not yet exist
The present is an infinitely small amount of time.
Therefore, do we exist attall? :rolleyes:
Nothing wrong with contradiction - your going all Quantum again.
keddie - whats up? You have lots to offer and we'll give you some back.
Does existence have to have a point? I think it does have a point but that's me - yo certainly don't have to find the answers to all the big questions to make it wrth living - what's for breakfast? is usually a good start - we can work up to Does God exist? by lunchtime.
Take it easy.
Cheers,
P.
the present is an infinitely small amount of time, but it travels along with us, so it is always ther and we always exist in the present.
Time (regardless of its existence) is nice like that
:D
Love & Peace.
There may be nothing wrong with two (or more) statements that contradict each other; that would be a paradox if they were both true.
But, a statement that contradicts itself does not have a truth value. i.e. you cannot say it is true or false. That has nothing to do with quantum mechanics (as far as I know).
Does not this statement contradict itself?
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...all points in time exist simultaneously
Yes it does because the inability to pin down a state (i.e. True or False) is the essence of Quantum physics - it is not the same thing but philosophically they are close.
haven't we had this discussion before;)
Cheers,
P.