that's why the letters are used sometimes. I could conceivably have a few different cell phones and one of them would be for references and i would give my own reference.
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that's why the letters are used sometimes. I could conceivably have a few different cell phones and one of them would be for references and i would give my own reference.
Yeah, phone references are even worse than letters for faked references. Provided it's answered with an official sounding greeting you'll assume it's legit. At least with a letter you'd expect to see headed paper but that's not hard to fake.
But it doesn't even really need to be faked. You're a company , you've found the employee you think you want, you write of for their references and don't hear back for a week or so. Do you not emplyee the guy you've found at that point or do you wait a while longer? Probably you wait, but for how long? References are pretty much the last thing that happens in the process and should certainly only be requested after an offer has been made and accepted so it's quite likely that the guy will have started before it becomes a suspicious delay, and by that point you've made up your own mind about him.
So, I've read everyone's posts.
I have a question for you: Which way are you leaning? Stay or go?
that may be true Funky, but corporate policies around here are funny. There is a no-fault firing law in indiana(US) where they don't have to even have a reason to let you go, and if they determine there is something wrong with your application a manager may be required to fire you due to corporate policy.
Hi Hack, I decided to go in the end. I thought long and hard and decided that, although I know there'd be opportunities openif I chose to move on in a year or two's time, this opportunity wouldn't be and it really does look like like a good 'un. Also, I've got plenty 'what if I'd done that' type regrets in my life already, don't want to add another one.
Disturbingly, Shaggy posted his post about 1 hour after I'd confirmed it to my manager and perfectly articulated all the reasons I was in doubt about going, damn him. I guess we must just share some weird ass telepathic hippy liberal link:bigyello:
The contract is signed and returned, the notice has been given to my current company, the die is cast. I gave my current company 2 months notice instead of 4 weeks to make it as easy as possible for them to find a decent replacement. Then I worked out, 'hang on, that's cost me about £600 in delayed pay increase'. Ah, the price of a concience :o.
That sucks! Mind you, I think discovering you'd faked your references or falsified your application would probably get you canned here to, I just doubt they ever would find out because they don't follow up rigorously enough. That's why we keep finding out convicted paoedophiles have been hired as primary school caretakers over here, becuase nobody bothers to check.:ehh:Quote:
There is a no-fault firing law in indiana(US) where they don't have to even have a reason to let you go
It's commonly referred to as 'At-will' employment - basically stating you're both free and intelligent parties, no one's holding a gun to your head, as long as no one violates any discrimination statutes - and no explicit or implied contracts are in effect - you may severe the relationship at any time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Orwell
The implied part is why most all employers now have a 'Employment is at-will. You may be terminated for any reason.' clause in their employment handbook and as part of their offer letters.
The same is true in Michigan as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Orwell