If they can run happily at x8 mode then i would assume they can do it normally... I think your best bet is to order them and see... Whch sadly isn't the best thing to have to do.
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If they can run happily at x8 mode then i would assume they can do it normally... I think your best bet is to order them and see... Whch sadly isn't the best thing to have to do.
Doh, after reading that entire article I think I understand how it is now.
x16 is like the pin count so to speak and the secondary number is the speed.
So I have this board - http://support.intel.com/products/mo...5XBX/index.htm
Shows:
* Two PCI Conventional bus add-in card connectors (SMBus routed to both PCI Conventional bus add-in card connectors)
* One Primary PCI Express x16 (electrical x16 or x8) bus add-in card connector
* One Secondary PCI Express x16 (electrical x8) bus add-in card connector
* One PCI Express* x16 (electrical x4) bus add-in card connector
So here Intel is saying "electrical x16 or x8" is the speed not the socket size.
Guess I should have read the manual first instead of going on memory from when I bought it. :(
Looks like I should be fine to order both x16 cards then. :)
Ps, I hate researching hardware for purchase. :(
I have had email conversations with the video card manufacture's support system and seems they are of little help. They say the two cards will work in the same system if running in Crossfire mode but that wasnt my question. I want them both to run in normal mode. Well at least if they both can be installed then they both should be able to run in normal mode one would assume logically. Guess I will just order both cards and find out. :)
Just ordered my new black case, black dvdrom, black dvd burner, black floppy, power supply, 2 extra dvi to vga adapters = $417.22. Should be here tomorrow :)
Just need to order that Artic heat transfer grease for the cpu to heatsink seal and I will be ready to build.
Thanks guys for the help. :thumb:
Nice, i take it you mean Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste? Excellent stuff. i have a spare syringe of it right here (albeit i am over 5000miles away).
The cards should run just fine, and if not, then, get the extra dual DVI PCI card... You know, the on you had before to extend displays?
Cant, still need to use that older one in my old system which I am using to for testing porobably. Like installing Vista and Office 2007.
Yes, Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste is what I need to purchase tomorrow.
My system parts showed as only taking 1 day to arrive as they will be shipped tomorrow and arive tomorrow :D
Did they arrive yet? :p
Yes, I got everything but the artic thermal stuff.
Which should I get?
http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/Su...SubCategory=85
Been building it off and on for a week. I really need to get it completed. :lol:
Oh ya, and I need another 120mm case fan too. :(
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835100007
That's what i have, i have 2 syringes of it. It's cheaper in the states!
You need hardly any of it, look it up on their website on how to do it properly :)
:lol: I like the first precaution they mention - "Dont put it in your mouth"
http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appi..._dual_wcap.pdf
Geez, they make all this out of it. Guess I will have to really read their directions.
It doesn't taste very nice, i'll tell you that for nothing. Obviously not what i wanted to do, but it is awful! And probably toxic.
Just follow the guide, they've updated it since last time :) Which is always good. small tiny blob on the heatspreader on Intel chips, spread it really thing with something like the edge of a credit card (obviously don't use one! it doesn't come off too easily..) and then mount the heatsink.
To prepare the CPU i use some really really fie sandpaper, to add really tiny grooves for better heat transfer. Obviously remove any other thermal pads/paste while you're at it as well. Oh, and DON'T use nail varnish remover on them... Not a good idea at all.
Here's the guide i tend to follow: http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...tions_big2.htm
Ya I read that part but it also stated not to scratch the cpu core either.
I don't scratch the core, just the spreader on top.
Still, oddly i note better temperatures after my sandpaper treatment, i think i should stop doing it though if it states not to. Woops.
Looks like the order I placed yesterday should be here today but nada yet. :(
The artic silver and 120mm case fan were ordered.
11/02/2006 04:13:00 IN TRANSIT TO[I] CERRITOS, CA, US
11/02/2006 06:12:00 DEPARTURE SCAN[I] MEMPHIS, TN, US
11/01/2006 18:10:00 ORIGIN SCAN[I] MEMPHIS, TN, US
11/01/2006 16:11:49 BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED[M] MEMPHIS, TN, US
* tapping fingers impatiently waiting *
:)
Ps, TN to CA in 1 hour? Given there is a 3 hour time difference but thats one fast plane.
Checked the tracking number and this cant be right. :(
Estimated delivery
11/07/2006
lol 5 days !.Must be a really fast plane
Its probably the Artic silver that has to come on down from Alaska :(
Usually they are fast. Only 1 day and sometimes 2 at most. Oh well. Just have to sit and look at it half way put together with all the other hardware sitting there waiting.
That must be really hard :( btw i was wondering if its possible to apply the thermals after everything is setup??Quote:
Just have to sit and look at it half way put together with all the other hardware sitting there waiting.
Well you can if you have room in the case after all the video cards and hds are installed but its just a bit harder as there is less room. Whats the point of putting all that in when you still cant boot it up anyways. :(
Working on my system tonight as I finally have it all! :D
Ohh finally.Thats great .Do post a snap of your rig :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
Yay! Fantastic RD. Let's have a few run of the mill benchmarks while we're at it, maybe a pass of SuperPi doing the 1m test? Should only take around 21secs for you i think, or was it 23?
Good luck putting it all together though :D
Maybe I should post some pixs as its being built? :lol: This thread is now more like a blog for my system.
I'm still worried about the dual PCIe cards performing properly. So lets cross our fingers. Just have the CPU, VCards, and HD w/cooler to install.
http://vbforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52228
How is it coming?
I'm just finishing my work for the day and its now just after lunch time and I havent even had a second cup of coffee or breakfast yet. :(
Was on phone support with a client most of th morning and posting here while waiting for them to foloow my instructions. :D
I'll post an update tonight as I hope to have the Artic silver applied and everything else installed.
Ahhh, we're adding pictures now are we? This is one of my finished system (it's attached). Not a great picture, but look at the size of that cooler :D And that's my gorgeous X1600XT sat there as well.... Awwwh, bless em, they don't know what's hit em when they've been overclocked ;)
Hope you get things done soon Rob.
Thats a massive cooler but why did you use such a small 80mm exhaust fan? A 120mm looks like is supossed to go there. Less then $10 ;)
Ah yes, been meaning to fix that, the 80mm is heat controlled, it is actually in the CPU_FAN header, and the huge fan is wired to the 12v molex that a hard drive would normally take.
Thus, it hardly really spins above 1000rpm, meaning hardly any noise at all :thumb:
Should get a 120mm for it, but my 120mm is at the front as an intake. Silent as well :)
Money's short right now, so kind of saving it for more important things :)
Like a new system when you smoke this one? lol
I'm talking about the little blue toy fan :D
Sony has a low rpm silent mid cpf producing case fan of 120mm that is about 9 bucks. About the price of one fast food mean. :D
Ahhh, you think it'd overheat? I hope not... But it shouldn't, full load temps at 3Ghz barely break 46'C nowadays :) And idles at around 28 - 30'C. Not sure on fahrenheit on those figures, but i know google can sort them if need be ;)
I couldn't live without the little blue fan though, it just looks dwarfed, so, it has to stay :D
If you keep your case open like that all the time then you loose out on the air currents developed by the fans and actually could be running hotter then if it was closed. ;)
Ah, that was just for the picture anyway :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
Case side on now, currents flowing well, i hope...
Anywho, get your system built you! :p
Good thing I bought the Artic Silver as the retail box CPU didnt even come with any :eek:
Are you sure? It should have had a white square of paste on the bottom...Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
Still, i would of (and did) replace with Arctic Silver 5 anyway :)
Ok, guess I will have to read the directions as it appears that it already has thermal tape strips applied?
Upside down pix of the heatsink/cooling fan.
Scrub them off :)
There's a special form of alcohol that does the trick nicely, but i find simply warm water and a good scrubbing pad works just fine, just do a really good job with removing it. and watch your clothes!
Hmm, maybe I'm better off leaving them on? Its a copper head contact area with raised "thermal tape" strips.
Not if you're applying Arctic Silver 5, they need to come off.
And use hot water not warm, sorry. You can leave them on and run it like it is, just Arctic Silver 5 always means lower temperatures when used correctly over stock thermal compound/paste/pads.
What I can also place the artic over the stock thermals?
No, sorry, my wording was really bad on that last part. Don't use Arctic Silver 5 over them. It's just for metal to metal contact.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
I meant to imply that with Arctic Silver 5 temperatures are lower compared to that of just stock thermal grease.
Well I have (2) 120mm fans, a dual fan PSU (push/pull configuration), and a side case vent directly channeling air to the CPU.
If I use the stock thermal tape can I later change it to the artic one?