Re: So much for the "freedom of speech"
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Originally Posted by FunkyDexter
I think Nemaroller makes a gooid point, there was no significant terrorist threat from Iraq before we invaded. The threat was from Saudi Arabia. And doesn't our presence merely serve to legitamize the insurgency?
It's not one country in the region - it's the region itself that is being fought. I've said it before, and really not sarcastically - it's a huge game of RISK (old board game of world conquest). The western democracies realize that if certain countries in the region fall to dictatorships, then the whole balance will fall apart - Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India - it's a complex equation.
The threat from Saddam - who thought he was the "pan-arab" leader born again - was very real. Plus he was extremely murderous to those in the country that didn't follow his "hand-line", or simply fit the right ethno-religious makeup!
Re: So much for the "freedom of speech"
Well, despite what most of the media presents us for news, something must be going right in Iraq. Today is a historic day for Iraq; very high turnout in their democratic election.
Re: So much for the "freedom of speech"
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but most of them are also directly connected to the coalition presence: ...because...because...because...
This is an assertion. Maybe all these things really happen directly because of the Western military presence, or maybe we are just the pretext in order for them to stir up trouble. After all, they want to present this as a legitimate war against Islam rather than a bunch of murderous thugs who oppose giving the Iraqis any form of democratic choice in their own future and have an axe to grind with the West.
Re: So much for the "freedom of speech"
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Originally Posted by zaza
This is an assertion. Maybe
You're right about the first but, but come on, fella, to start again with 'Maybe'? Perhaps you should just keep quiet.
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Re: So much for the "freedom of speech"
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Originally Posted by zaza
You disagree?
It's very difficult to agree with 'maybe'
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Maybe all these things really happen directly because of the Western military presence, or maybe we are just the pretext in order for them to stir up trouble.
Hm, I post this and you're having trouble figuring out which of these I believe? Maybe I should spell it out.
The latter.
Re: So much for the "freedom of speech"
Holy krap, are you guys still arguing about this? :lol: If ya'll would have taken my advice and nuked Iraq the first place, we wouldn't be having this conversation. I think the CIA should start building mechanical camels that they can hide inside and spy on terrorists.
Re: So much for the "freedom of speech"
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Originally Posted by zaza
The latter.
Was obvious to me ;)
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Originally Posted by zaza
Maybe I should spell it out.
Maybe you should.
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Originally Posted by szlamany
Was obvious to me
I know it was; I know.
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I think the CIA should start building mechanical camels that they can hide inside and spy on terrorists.
I heard that the CIA actually passed this request on to NASA to put into practice. They ended up with mechanical terrorists which could be used to spy on camels.
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I know it was; I know.
I don't know what you're griping about then.
Re: So much for the "freedom of speech"
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Originally Posted by zaza
I don't know what you're griping about then.
I know you don't. I could see that a mile off
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Stop - stop!
Don't you see that this is exactly what Honeybee is hoping for - disagreement followed by disorganization - followed by total chaos - and then :eek2:
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I know you don't. I could see that a mile off
Nice one. :rolleyes:
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I heard that the CIA actually passed this request on to NASA to put into practice. They ended up with mechanical terrorists which could be used to spy on camels.
Damn dirty camels.
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disagreement followed by disorganization - followed by total chaos - and then .........You realize you are an IT professional and there is no escaping it.
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Originally Posted by MasterBlaster
disagreement followed by disorganization - followed by total chaos - and then .........You realize you are an IT professional and there is no escaping it.
I wake up to that formula every morning - and my head explodes just like that around 5:00 every afternoon.
BTW - IT = Intelligent Thinking, for what it's worth...
Re: So much for the "freedom of speech"
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Originally Posted by zaza
Nice one.
Thanks :thumb:
Re: So much for the "freedom of speech"
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Originally Posted by szlamany
I wake up to that formula every morning - and my head explodes just like that around 5:00 every afternoon.
BTW - IT = Intelligent Thinking, for what it's worth...
Intelligent Thinking? Maybe, I haven't seen any around here yet, but I'm sure it exists. Hell, if nasa can build a mechanical terrorist camel, anything is possible.
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http://www.nccvb.org/images/Camel%20Ottogallery.jpg
"You'll never break our secrets you imperialistic swines!"
