ppl using my code without making a reference to me...

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Originally Posted by szlamany

CV - I think that this all needs to be put in perspective.

Quicksort - one of your issues - is a standard algorithm, published for decades now.

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Yes, the algorithm itself is not written by me (obviously)
I originally had it in C, and I got the code from school.
All i did was to convert the code from C to VB...
And I don't "hold" to that code that much.

What I really care about is my RndCrypt code, because it was totally invented by me. It was not modified from someone else's code... it was not converted...
I had the idea, and wrote it.
Same with the other encryption thread (the High Encryption one in the CodeBank), it was totally my idea, and later on, I found out that I was not the only one with simmilar idea...

On a side note: This thread has turned out much bigger than i originally thought, I did not mean to cause disagreements between you guys of any kind.
I can't quite keep up with what you guys are talking about...

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Originally Posted by MartinLiss

No there isn't but it's not that important is it?

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your right, it's not that important, i just like to know how many people download my code.
You know... the more people download it, the more gratification I get :D

You touched on the main point of confusion here I believe.

I and a few others are talking about CodeBank thread type posts.

Others are just talking about regular post replies.


I dont care much about regular replies as I usually write custom code for that exact situation. On the other side, I have code like my SpellChecker thread that I did make sure to post a copyright on but I still found my code was stolen and reposted on another forums site exactly as mine is with the exception that they changed the copyright notice to their name. Needless to say I contacted the site admin (which was the one that stole my code) and notified him that if it wasnt removed I would sue. I even contacted his free forums hosting company as part of the license is that they dont do certain illeagal things such as that.

I think most would agree that CodeBank threads should definately be off limits for re-posting but regular threads should at least, as a courteousy, be linked to so credit can be given. Dont forget you can still get rep'd for helping in finding a solution just by posting a link. ;)

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

I think most would agree that CodeBank threads should definately be off limits for re-posting but regular threads should at least, as a courteousy, be linked to so credit can be given. Dont forget you can still get rep'd for helping in finding a solution just by posting a link. ;)

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I agree with all the points made in that statement...

forget it. i quit :) nah, tomorrow is another day. so close...}

I'll chuck in my variable amount of currency:

If I post code I generally do not include any comments saying that I wrote it, or that I give two hoots who uses it for what. If I post a zipped sample project that I completely wrote, I will include my name in the sample, I do not mind if it is used or modified by others in any manner but I do expect people to acknowledge that I was the original author, if they suggest its use to others. Otherwise, it would appear that they are taking credit for something that they have not written. If they simply link to my post - that is fine, then anyone can see that I wrote it and posted the original sample.

Brad's exact words are as follows.

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Originally Posted by brad jones

Any code -- unless you sold it to VBWorld/VBForums -- is owned by the poster.
{ http://www.vbforums.com/showpost.php...6&postcount=17 }

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As for copyright - there is no definition of copyright that applies globally - but you are expected to respect the author's ownership and rights regarding at least works that include the copyright © symbol.

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Originally Posted by Remix

This is so pointless..dont post code if you dont want to share..

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You are correct - this is a public site and you cannot stop people from using code that you post. However, you have a right to claim ownership of that code, and to require that you are given due credit for its use in any situation. You also have the right to waive those rights, if you wish to do so - but you are expected to respect others'.

Yes, that part that Brad said is what I posted earlier but was in still yet another thread. Yes, if its posted then its also considered published. This act if you are the original author can assist in enforcing your copyright authorship of the concerned code.

Jeez. I don't know if I have any samples from the CodeBank, or if I changed them. If I post code, and someone PM's me that they wrote it, I will change the post to include their name. I don't want bad blood, but keeping what I have helps more people than not posting code.

There are multiple issues being discussed in this thread. Copyright is one and recognition of the original poster of code is the other.

If there are still issues on either of these that need addressed, let me know. I think they have been beat into the ground pretty hard.

Brad!

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

You touched on the main point of confusion here I believe.

I and a few others are talking about CodeBank thread type posts.

Others are just talking about regular post replies.


I dont care much about regular replies as I usually write custom code for that exact situation. On the other side, I have code like my SpellChecker thread that I did make sure to post a copyright on but I still found my code was stolen and reposted on another forums site exactly as mine is with the exception that they changed the copyright notice to their name. Needless to say I contacted the site admin (which was the one that stole my code) and notified him that if it wasnt removed I would sue. I even contacted his free forums hosting company as part of the license is that they dont do certain illeagal things such as that.

I think most would agree that CodeBank threads should definately be off limits for re-posting but regular threads should at least, as a courteousy, be linked to so credit can be given. Dont forget you can still get rep'd for helping in finding a solution just by posting a link. ;)

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Dear Rob,

how can you explain or prove that the code they copied actually belongs to you when it is not copyrighted?

please, no offences but seriously i wanted to know this. thnx

Because of the guidelines available at http://www.copyright.gov for the USA describe all the limits and liabilities.

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When is my work protected?
Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

Because of the guidelines available at http://www.copyright.gov for the USA describe all the limits and liabilities.

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yes i agree with it, but once your code has been copied and modified, how can you defend your point that "I am the author of this Code or Snippet!!"?

exactly same happened with me last year in my college when my junior copied my program and my professor (please penagte see if it's correct) blamed me that i copied from him!! :sick: it was

If you had posted your code or emailed it back to yourself you would have had a defense.

Creation timestamp on the files ?

Other than that, you can put a date on everything you do. Or post it to a fixed source as Rob suggests, or make a backup - etc.

Although, if you and another student have the same code - then the professor can't blame only one of you and not the other, until one of you proves you were the original author. There are various methods, like comparison of style with other individual submissions, etc.

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Originally Posted by penagate

Creation timestamp on the files ?

Other than that, you can put a date on everything you do. Or post it to a fixed source as Rob suggests, or make a backup - etc.

Although, if you and another student have the same code - then the professor can't blame only one of you and not the other, until one of you proves you were the original author. There are various methods, like comparison of style with other individual submissions, etc.

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Besides, I'd guess that the one who originally wrote the code could tell what the different functions/etc does better than the other who just stole it.