An Italian from NYC. I don't believe you. You don't have a cousin named Vinny who drives an IROC Z do you? LOL :D
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An Italian from NYC. I don't believe you. You don't have a cousin named Vinny who drives an IROC Z do you? LOL :D
Entity may be bad english on my part but most people understand what redneck means.
Not really. It was actually pretty cool growing up. If my mom yelled at me I always said " I don't have to listen to you, your only my aunt"!Quote:
Originally Posted by grilkip
My point is I think that you truly believe that there are a group of people with REDNECK hats on walking around somewhere between west virginia and texas - there isn't...Quote:
Originally Posted by grilkip
(I had an Z28 back in the 80's)
BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by szlamany
If it was black with gold rims I'm not going to talk to you any more.
Don't worry I know, the same type of insult exists everywhere. Here we just say (translated) 'farmers'.Quote:
Originally Posted by szlamany
At least it's not a Firebird. (Kit where are you)Quote:
(I had an Z28 back in the 80's)
Now I drive a supposedly evil SUV - gotta cart my twin boys around somehow...
(I liked my 69 Chevelle SS muscle car a whole lot more - no gold wheels on the Z28 - but I got a little metal model of that car sitting on my desk :D )
That replaced the Z28 after I drove it into a tree one February morning...Quote:
Originally Posted by grilkip
1982 TransAm was a nice car...
Yeah the Chevelle's are nice. I really miss my 68 GTO. I went to high school with an Italian girl from NYC. She had 3 cousins name vinny and all 3 drove Black IROCs with gold rims.Quote:
Originally Posted by szlamany
Another thread run wild. Could somebody clear something up for me: I don't see NoteMe posting anywhere in this thread? Did grilkip pick the wrong mod?Quote:
Originally Posted by grilkip
What I love about MB is his posts are all over the spectrum. I don't agree with half of what he says, but I don't understand about 3/4 of what he says. Colon tattoos? How do you do that, and what would be the point? The colon is entirely inside (though I remember a gross picture in Chit-Chat from a year or so back where this was not the case), so it doesn't get seen much.
Then he goes and talks about running princesses into guardrails. I thought he was going to link that to ranchers looking for sheep with their heads caught in a fence, but he veered off into colon tattoos instead.
Ya just never know until he's done speaking.
GO MB!!! :wave:
Just hijacking one of yrwyddfa's threads makes it all worth while...
Now he had to read through all this :D
I've had a couple of Z-28's, and one of them was an IROC. They've really dropped in popularity since the movie "Fast and the Furious" hit the scene.
Generation 3 was nice.
Pretty good thread. I may comment more later.
indeed, i meant pino.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
What a morning, what a thread! Most amusing, though :)Quote:
Originally Posted by szlamany
I know you sort of said this in jest, but I don't think that you are as far from the truth as your subsequent posts make out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterBlaster
What causes someone to be a policeman? What then encourages that policeman to volunteer (as it is in the UK) to carry arms?
If you want to help people sign up to Liberty, or some other charity. If you want to play with guns, join the army. So why the police? We also have sufficient numbers of specialist 'operators' that could wander around with the police so that the police would never need to carry guns
BTW Eight bullets is not a professional job whatsoever. The double tap will do the job just as well. The guy who shot the Brazilian had him pinned to the floor. One presumes, that he then had control of the situation; unless of course you subscribe to the belief that the would be bombers have technology so advanced that 'three eye twitches to the left and it will trigger the detonator' ?
Anyway five of the bullets were fired at close range whilst under the control of the 'officer'
Another well put point is that why did they let him get to the station. From what I understand the stuff the bombers are using (this time around, anyway) is only really effective in closed spaces. That is to say that although an explosion will occur, if it occurs out in the open it will become far less effective. One would assume that the police would stop the guy from getting into a closeed environment.
The British police got it wrong. There can be no argument on this point. An innocent man is dead.
I personally come from the point of view that there should be no need for anyone, in any circumstances, to ever be killed: whether war, or the 'fight against terror' This is a purist stance - but I do understand that there will be a situation that occurs which will be the nth degree that does require the use of deadly force.
IMHO in that scenario it may well be logically justified, but it is never the morally right thing to do.
The cops are sending out mixed messages, they say they have to shoot to kill because the suspect might detonate a bomb. However they have no problem performing stop and search.
So if the cop has a gun he should shoot the suspect to stop a bomb going off.
If however the cop walks up to a bomber and asks to search his bag he'll get so confused he'll just hand it over without thinking or trying to detonate it.
Well, I love that comment. Also I am sure everybody in the Al Qaeda must love it too. For it simply goes on to show the police and the government are in a panic mode. In saying that more innocent people may be killed, the British police have simply shown that they are so jittery they are ready to pump bullets into anyone at the drop of a hat. That's exactly what happened with the poor hapless guy who was shot dead on a subway. I read on the BBC of an eyewitness account who said the police officers jumped on him and put as many as eight bullets through his head. And the result? They have an innocent dead man at their hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannymking
Well the British have now gone a step ahead in arrogance than Dubya, that's for sure.
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Aren't you supposed to be in town square doing situps? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by honeybee
Funny you should mention that. I heard once that the art of colon tattooing was perfected on sheep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
honeybee..
The case I was referring to probably a year old or so now..
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Originally Posted by MasterBlaster
Yeah, in Montana, but the needle's kind of big ;)
This is a typical misconception of what 'Double Tap' means.Quote:
Originally Posted by yrwyddfa
The real meaning is that 2 people are involved in the shooting, actually an assassination.
If you know someone is coming out of a door and don't know which way they will walk one person stands about 20 yards to one side another 20 yards the other. When the target appears both gunmen walk towards him, the gunman he is approaching will empty his gun into the taget, he then turns around and walks away with his 'buddy' riding shotgun as his gun is still loaded.
I think it was uninformed tabloid journalists who applied it to 2 shots being fired.
I know exactly what a double tap means. My posts on other such stuff have been removed, so I did not feel the need to elaborate.
How do you explain your mis-use of the term in the above quote then?Quote:
Originally Posted by yrwyddfa
Anything to back this up? I always thought it meant two shots in quick sucession targeted at the same point, and wikipedia and google seem to agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlenW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_tap
Rreread my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlenW
Do you believe it was anything other than assasination?
The term Double Tap was first used in the fifties and sixties by British forces in Cyprus, and still is used in some units in the British army. The double meant 2 shooters.
I don't know how or who changed its meaning but I do know the origin.
Be careful.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlenW
It is very professional if your gun only holds 8 shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by yrwyddfa
It is very unprofessional if your gun holds more.
Policemen are not supposed to be professional assassins. The difference between the 'shoot to kill' policy and the the way the police used to do it was that in the past they shot to stop, if the suspect died that was a by-product.
Of course. Is that not self-evident?Quote:
Originally Posted by GlenW
Which point do you consider to be self-evident, there are three?Quote:
Originally Posted by yrwyddfa
Woka said that "Chavs" are the equivalent of Rednecks in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by grilkip
Chavs are probably the closest things to rednecks in the UK. They all live on council estates and drive stolen Vauxhall Novas with 3 of the hubcaps missing and one door is brown.
. . . and live in Chatham.
Is "Shoot-to-kill" justified? Perhaps, perhaps not.
If in a situation it was thought they may blow themselves up, they have to be stopped before they can detonate (of course shooting them in the chest may very well detonate anyway).
In the situation of that innocent guy being shot in the subway it was an unfortunate mistake.
The address this guy lived in was linked to the successful bombings on the 7th so they were naturally monitoring it. The police attempted to stop him before entering the subway, he ran from the police, jumped the ticket booth and kept running. Naturally the police had to assume the worst, that he was armed with explosives (could they take the risk). Unfortunately it later came out that the guy they were chasing couldn't speak any English and just ran from the police because the police in his native country shoot people on sight for no reason
Not quite a report into the investigation has been leaked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valleysboy1978
http://www.channel4.com/news/content...jsp?id=1677571
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The documents and photographs confirm that Jean Charles was not carrying any bags, and was wearing a denim jacket, not a bulky winter coat, as had previously been claimed.
He was behaving normally, and did not vault the barriers, even stopping to pick up a free newspaper.
He started running when we saw a tube at the platform. Police HAD agreed they would shoot a suspect if he ran.
Unlucky indeed... :(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4157892.stm
It appears that he did swipe his ticket and the only reason he ran was to make sure he didn't miss his train :eek:
Police getting a bit trigger-happy perhaps?
news.bbc.co.uk healine:
Brazil Team To Probe Tube Death
My first thought was what would Ronaldo know about forensic pathology.