Yeah the diffrent LOD (Level of detail...;)) algorithms like the ROAM will make sure the terrain gets drawn nicer in the front then in the back. But I am still concerned about how it will look like when we cut it off at a distance using the Quad three...
Plendej moved our thread...:D.
Nice job you have done with the page. But I have a couple of questions. On the links page, why have you added 2 to all of the ratings? Was that so you could see if the stars where working? Or have you read them all...:D
And I guess you are aware of it, but the progress page is the same as the link page...:D...but what is that page all about. Should we write what we have done? Or is that the page where we upload all the files with version number and date?
Yeah I just wanted to see the stars were working properly :D. I wish I did get time to read them. I was awake till 4 in the end working on it.
Yeah the progress and ideas pages I just took from the links page till I do them. I was thinking the progress page will keep track of the things we have completed. To add things to it you can either create a new item for it or on the Todo list I put a link (dead at the momement) next to each item. When that link is clicked it will remove the item from the todo list and put it in the progress list.
Wow...4em....thats a couple of hours more then me. I am proud of you...:DQuote:
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Yeah I just wanted to see the stars were working properly :D. I wish I did get time to read them. I was awake till 4 in the end working on it.
Yeah the progress and ideas pages I just took from the links page till I do them. I was thinking the progress page will keep track of the things we have completed. To add things to it you can either create a new item for it or on the Todo list I put a link (dead at the momement) next to each item. When that link is clicked it will remove the item from the todo list and put it in the progress list.
It's a good idea about the link we can click so a to do item becomes a progress item.
An other thing, we need to find a name....in every post from now on we should try to add a new name, at least try....do you think you can do that...can't be THAT hard can it?
Name: Atlantis...:D
BTW I looked at the page for the book we have bought, that book called it's engine for Gaia....hmmm...
I think we should pick a name thats one of those acient greek gods. They all had cool names so I'd probably be ok with any of those. I was going to add a todo list thing for the name but I thought its not going to be too long till we have one anyway :D.
Name: Prometheus (If you read my Games Design Doc you should recognise it ;))
You have to book already :eek: Mines still on its way.
I was thinking of some greak names too....but I wanted a name that has something with building of the world, like if there was a ancient tale about how the world was made, and there was a person making that world we could have used that name...
Is there any acient tales from your country...
Not sure if you have heard about it but there is an old one from Norway before the Norway was cristened (SP?) it's about Gods that was called Thor and Oding and many many more...can't remember what the person was called that made that world....
Name: Midgard
Yeah I've heard of Thor too, I thought it wa a greek thing but thinking of it it is a Norwegian one :).Quote:
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I was thinking of some greak names too....but I wanted a name that has something with building of the world, like if there was a ancient tale about how the world was made, and there was a person making that world we could have used that name...
Is there any acient tales from your country...
Not sure if you have heard about it but there is an old one from Norway before the Norway was cristened (SP?) it's about Gods that was called Thor and Oding and many many more...can't remember what the person was called that made that world....
Name: Midgard
Name: Thor's Spade
BTW I'm just finishing off the site now, I'm doing the complete.php thing at the moemnt then I'm gonna work on the progress and idea pages. I don't know if you busy but if your not do you want to do the database tables for them?
I can do the tables for them in MySQL. And prefered fields, or should I just add what I think it should contain??
From ancient Egyptian mythology:
BTW in some parts of the world he was called Ra too...;)....the sun god...ever heard about Thor Heyerdahl. The Norwegian arceologist? He once made a balsa float called Ra, and one called Kon-Tiki (The northern part of ehhh...was it egypt?? called some God for Kon, and in the southern part they called the same god for Tiki. Tiki can also be a good name.Quote:
The creator of all things was either Re, Amun, Ptah, Khnum or Aten, depending on which version of the myth was currently in use.
Names:
- Kon
- Tiki
- Re
- Ra
- Amun
- Ptah
- Khnum
- Aten
hehehe
BTW Thor had a HAMMER...why are you calling it a spade..:D
He had a chariot (SP?) too if I remember correct :D. But I thought seen as though this is to do with terrain and landscapes our Thor should have a spade or a digger or something ;).Quote:
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BTW Thor had a HAMMER...why are you calling it a spade..:D
Tiki is good but I think we will need to add something else, like you said that guy used Kon-Tiki. We could do something similar?
Ow yeah the database table should really have the same feilds as the todolist I guess because the stuff will be getting copied over. I suppose we could add a date completed field too. MAybe others if your think so.
You didn't answer the question about the tables...;)
Tiki - navigator
Tiki - map
Tiki - island
Tiki - lagune (SP?)
Tiki - planet
Tiki - mountain
Tiki - country
Tiki - muld
Tiki - elon
I am not so good with this am I...:d
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Ow yeah the database table should really have the same feilds as the todolist I guess because the stuff will be getting copied over. I suppose we could add a date completed field too. MAybe others if your think so.
Or maybe just a completed field in the ToDo table, that says 0 when it should be showed in the ToDo list, and 1, when it should be showed in the progress list?....no thats not a good idea...we should have date filed for when it was finished too...hmm....or maybe we can just change the date to a new date for when it was finished...
Not sure what you decied in the end in that post, but I think we'll wnat both the dates, when it was due and when we did complete it so that would be better done with an extra field. But if we do it all in one table we don't have loads of the priorities in the todo list all over the place. If its all in one table we can just leave the datecompleted field blank untill it is complete.Quote:
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Or maybe just a completed field in the ToDo table, that says 0 when it should be showed in the ToDo list, and 1, when it should be showed in the progress list?....no thats not a good idea...we should have date filed for when it was finished too...hmm....or maybe we can just change the date to a new date for when it was finished...
I am not sure what you desided in the end either...should we make a new table, and have two dates in the other one, and ONE priority field?
I go for a new table then :)Quote:
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I am not sure what you desided in the end either...should we make a new table, and have two dates in the other one, and ONE priority field?
Done...then it was the next table...ideas.......hmmm...on to it...guess it will look a lot like the others tho'Quote:
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I go for a new table then :)
Added the idea table too...;)
any comments or changes are welcome...;)
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progress_ID tinyint(4)
tododate date
progressdate date
title varchar(50)
description mediumtext
priority tinyint(4)
Just one thing, maybe a field on the ideas table so we can see who created the idea. I've made the progress page but there isn't any items the the table is empty :D.
I'm gonna do the ideas page now...
I've made the Ideas Page aswell now. All thats left is the editing pages....
Yeah I was thinking abou that too..but I ditched the idea becuase we are only two persons and probably always will remember what ideas we have written our self, and the rest will be the other person...:D but ok...I can add one..:DQuote:
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Just one thing, maybe a field on the ideas table so we can see who created the idea. I've made the progress page but there isn't any items the the table is empty :D.
I'm gonna do the ideas page now...
Varchar (20) ???
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I've made the Ideas Page aswell now. All thats left is the editing pages....
Are you sure we need them...we might as well just use CPanel...or what do you think?
For things like changing a todo to a progress item it will be easier using a simple page becuase there isn't really easy options in the CPanel for that.
Yeah VarChar(20) will be fine.Quote:
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Yeah I was thinking abou that too..but I ditched the idea becuase we are only two persons and probably always will remember what ideas we have written our self, and the rest will be the other person...:D but ok...I can add one..:D
Varchar (20) ???
Yeah...but you have all ready...at least more or less done that...havn't you???Quote:
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For things like changing a todo to a progress item it will be easier using a simple page becuase there isn't really easy options in the CPanel for that.
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Yeah VarChar(20) will be fine.
Forgot to say that, but I added that years ago...:d
Yeah I noticed but I think you hadn't when I posted it ;).Quote:
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Forgot to say that, but I added that years ago...:d
I think it's just about finished now. Yeah i have done that todo to progress thing. Tested it too :D.
I started to try and read some of the articles for a little bit :)
I have printed out a couple of more of them. But my black ink is out now..:D..better try to find the new catridge I have somewhere...:D
BTW did you see my reply in the PHP section...was that an answer?
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Name:Tiki traveling
Thanx, yeah I saw the reply and have added it to the progress section now ;)
Soz I'd forgot about the name, what about Tiki's Garden ?
Don't like the ' in the name if we are going to use the name as folder and maybe even file names, but we can maybe agree to use Tiki for that, and the whole project is called Tiki's Garden or something. What do you think?
K then, so the Project is Called Tiki's Garden but for filenames we use Tikis Garden (or TikisGarden for internet things cos FireFox won't like spaces ;))Quote:
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Don't like the ' in the name if we are going to use the name as folder and maybe even file names, but we can maybe agree to use Tiki for that, and the whole project is called Tiki's Garden or something. What do you think?
That seem ok to you?
Yeah it does...I am in. But most of the files won't have anything with the name Tiki's Garden anyway...
:cool:
I have now done the pages to add News Items, Todo Tasks, and Article Links.
I guess its time to think about planning or at least read some of those articles ;).
Yeah planning and reading. I found a tutorial on how to make an optimized window for game programing in the DX9 book I have, it was in apendix A. Not sure if it was sooooo incredible, but I can try to look through it, and see what it is all about?
BTW what IDE are we going to use?
Maybe we can start with a vague iteration plan. Don't have to be sooo 100% detailed. But we can see what that should be done for every iteration. What do you say?
VC++.NET 2003 when it arrives, expected before the end of this month. At the moment I can use VC++.NET (V7.0) if needed.Quote:
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BTW what IDE are we going to use?
Yeah I've never made an iteration plan before though :(.Quote:
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Maybe we can start with a vague iteration plan. Don't have to be sooo 100% detailed. But we can see what that should be done for every iteration. What do you say?
OK, first we set up everything that we want to add like:
- A window
- Enumeration ??
- A tearin
- An algorithm for better visualisation
- Space partitioning
and so on, then we say what should be made first, and what we have to implement to get it "wolring" but not be finished. Then we can add texture in an other iteration, and a skybox, a render queue or maybe that should be in the first iteration. And so on...
What more should we add?
How about this for the first iteration:
(Note: the Demo project and the Engine will need to be built at the same time but they should be clearly seperated into different files. The Engine will no dought be more than just one file but the point is that they won't hold any of the stuff to do with only the demo project)
- Dx Initialisation (Not sure how much of this will be the engine and how much the demo project that uses it)
- SkyBox
- I simple Lighting system (Possibly, might be better in the second iteration)
- terrain will be fixed with no ROAMing.
- Terrain will be partitioned into segments
Feel free to add some stuff cos I'm sure there was some thinsg I was thinking of but have forgot :rolleyes:.
No way that is iteration 1....:D:
OK lets elaborate about this for a while...:D
What about:
v 0.1:
- Enumeration (of what the engine does, not what the demo uses)
- Load terain from file
- Display terrain (Simple now LOD, or what it was called, no ROAM etc)
Demo v0.1:
- Start the engine
- Get a simple small terain up and running
- Move in the terrain
v 0.2
- Rendering queue
- ROAM (or something else)
v 0.3
- Quad three
v 0.4
- textures (1-3 layers)
- light ? VS/PS?
- fixing the enumeration to this
- fixing the rendering queue to add textures
v 0.5:
- Skybox
- Clouds
v 0.6
- Weather
- Wather?
Nice to have:
- Objects (trees, plants)
- Moving objects (man walking)
k that looks better than what I had. So for the Enumeration and Initialisation what will the engine be responsable for? The demo project will need to use Dx as well so it might be best if the demo sets up the stuff then passes a pointer to our engine. Or our engine sets the stuff up then returns a pointer?
It depends..like...ehh...I think it is in the UnReal engine there the Engine does all the enumeration. And it even have a "pop up box" in the beginning og all the games that uses it by default, where you can set the screen resolution and stuff...do you want that to happen in our project, or do you wan the demo app to deside the resolution and bit depth?
Thats a good idea. Mind I'm not sure because were not making a graphics engine for the rest of the program to use (or are we) so the games that use it might want different options. We could do it by functions and our engine enumerates everything and passes it back via a function? The Window thing might not be a bad Idea though.