Given enough rope everyone will end up hanging themselves
inlcuding me:D
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Given enough rope everyone will end up hanging themselves
inlcuding me:D
Besides your attempt at discombobulation is soporific in the extreme. You think what you will.
I for one, actually care, but as you expressed quite explicitly, you do not. That's fine. It would be boring if we all believed in the same ideas, and ideals.
It's a good job that we don't.
//It was a poll by 'National Geographic' actually - so perhaps you would actually like to read the link which I provided which tells you that.
WRONG. From the link you cited:
"When the Daily Mirror carried out a poll of 100 people on the streets of New York yesterday, we found that 80 per cent didn't have a clue where Iraq was."
//Your response - which is quite understandable - is to defend your nation. Which is exactly my point.
First, the article is a very thinly-disguised "Haw-haw, ahn't Americans stewpid, we British ah sew sewPERIAH" piece. Second, I'd still like to see corresponding surveys from other countries.
//You can bring up all of the immoral, horrific things that the British have done (and I suppose will continue to do) and I would be the first to hold my hands up and agree and try (albeit in a very limited way) to change things.
Then you agree it's not specifically an American problem. Thanks.
//All the Americans I have talked to just will not listen to anyone else. I mean look at your reply. You have taken facts IN ISOLATION and badly purported a feeble argument.
You are annoying and wrong. Please at least read the articles you cite before using them to support your points. Thanks in advance.
//...surely means something in itself, don't you think?
Frankly you get what you give. Notice that the reasonable posters here, regardless of nationality (hello Gaffer for example) do not get responses of the sort you've attracted.
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I have read it - you obviously haven't. I have to be honest this is utterly useless.Quote:
The poll that highlighted the Americans' ignorance about Iraq - population 22 million, area 260,000 square miles - was carried out by the National Geographic Society.
(Yes the Mirror did compile a small poll - but it was not that which I was referring)
Maybe I do need to spell things out for you after all:confused:
I give up - look forward to the unilateral invasion of Syria.
:D
Sorry, the only part of the article which refers to National Geographic's survey AT ALL is:
"The National Geographic Society survey said that nearly half of American youngsters couldn't pinpoint France or the UK either."
Frankly I should not have to do your homework for you. If you wanted to cite the National Geographic survey, you should have done so:
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ge...ighlights.html
And it's very telling that in the results of that survey, "Young people in Canada and Great Britain fared almost as poorly as those in the U.S."
THANK YOU AND GOOD DAY SIR.
Ya know, I hate to rub it in, but remember when I said to you earlier in this thread:
"And by the same token, many strongly liberal anti-war people, here in this forum and elsewhere, are just as guilty of the behavior you describe. When you ask a person to explain their beliefs to you and they simply can not, that shows (to me anyhow) that they really don't UNDERSTAND the things they believe in. The fact is, a great many people of every belief system choose to take that system completely on faith, from an outside source. Americans aren't especially guilty of this (certainly this forum demonstrates this very clearly)."
tee hee
I believe it mentions National Geographic elsewhereQuote:
Is Iraq even in the world? Don't know, don't care. There'll be nothing left of it soon anyway.. KRISTAL SNOW AND HAGATHA CHRISTIE 80 PER CENT OF AMERICANS CAN'T FIND BUSH'S TARGET
From Richard Wallace Us Editor, In New York
GEORGE Bush is on the brink of invading Iraq - but most Americans have no idea where the country is.
A survey revealed that only one in seven aged between 18 and 24 could identify Saddam Hussein's land.
And while more than half knew that al-Qaeda and the Taliban were based in Afghanistan, only one in six could find the country on a map.
Even more worrying - one in 10 couldn't pick out America.
When the Daily Mirror carried out a poll of 100 people on the streets of New York yesterday, we found that 80 per cent didn't have a clue where Iraq was.
Yesterday President Bush asked for military support from 60 countries, including Britain, as he prepared for an assault on Baghdad, which he is threatening if Saddam defies a UN resolution to get rid of weapons of mass destruction.
At least 12,000 Americans should know where Iraq is - they are the troops currently massed just over the border in Kuwait.
The poll that highlighted the Americans' ignorance about Iraq - population 22 million, area 260,000 square miles - was carried out by the National Geographic Society.
'I hate to do your research for you'
lol
:D
I agree and have said so. I have said - maybe not in enough words - that Britain is guilty of immoral foreign policy too.Quote:
The fact is, a great many people of every belief system choose to take that system completely on faith, from an outside source. Americans aren't especially guilty of this (certainly this forum demonstrates this very clearly)."
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :DQuote:
Ya know, I hate to rub it in
//The poll that highlighted the Americans' ignorance about Iraq - population 22 million, area 260,000 square miles - was carried out by the National Geographic Society.
That doesn't cite the NG's poll, it only states the Mirror's opinion on it (and carefully omits the British's own ignorance about Iraq and geography in general). The only actual data from the NG survey embedded in the Mirror's America-bashing is what I pointed out. You're welcome to stick to your guns on this issue, but you were and are WRONG. You read the Mirror's article and looked no further, because that's what you're trained to do. :)
//All the Americans I have talked to just will not listen to anyone else. I mean look at your reply. You have taken facts IN ISOLATION and badly purported a feeble argument.
Please replace "Americans" with "British" and see how that sounds to you in this context. You quoted that one article from the Mirror quite extensively, but even though it purports to be founded upon another survey by National Geographic you won't look at that. Looking at just the American results, ignoring the British results (which as NG said were almost as bad) - who's taking facts in isolation and not listening to anyone else? Heh. Byebye!
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Well I've got to be honest - this has just degraded into a slanging match (me included)
I made a nice list for discussion but there are people on this forum who can only focus on an error of judgement on my part and nothing else - for which I have already apologised.
Just goes to show, eh
Nevermind: I give up.
I live in America so I don't need a poll to tell me that most of the people in this country don't know much about Iraq. Of course the larger problem is that even more of them don't care.
More importantly, the common misconception when it comes to "the war on iraq" is that people fail to see the difference between "war on iraq" and "the war on iraq".
I am all for removing Saddam Hussein from power (as long as we have the worlds support). I am just against the way that it was done.