and the "your screen reso is less than 1024..." poping up in a msgbox on every page ;)
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and the "your screen reso is less than 1024..." poping up in a msgbox on every page ;)
Siyan...CSS is great but it doesn't support the standard font size changes in web browsers, example View > Text Size in IE. IF someone has it set to large for whatever reason the size on the page will not change if the size is specified with CSS.
The font tag is still useful.
Which is why I choose readable font sizes.Quote:
Originally posted by jpbtennisman
Siyan...CSS is great but it doesn't support the standard font size changes in web browsers, example View > Text Size in IE. IF someone has it set to large for whatever reason the size on the page will not change if the size is specified with CSS.
The font tag is still useful.
I don't care to make the site Ultra accesible, I'm assuming the person is running a fairly recent browser, IE4+ or a late version or netscape, and that they have a realistic resolution running. If they're running it too high or too low, its not my problem.
Anyways, the reason why I switched to CSS was because NS and IE rendered text sizes differently abck in teh day, NS size 2 was IE size 3 (soooo dumb). It might be different now but meh, CSS is the way.
-C
BODY.Hidden {Quote:
Originally posted by crptcblade
But if you insist on it, be sure to use CSS and not the font tag to hide your hateful remarks.
;)
visibility: hidden;
}
YAY!
-C
Quote:
-Dont Make it only IE compatible think of people with netscape and opera
nah just direct them to a link that says your browser sucks-- turn on IE-- or you could make a nice vbscript to open IE with your site in it for them ;-)
try not to look to microsoftish-- even if you HAVE to use frontpage ;-) everyone says adobe golive is good-- but ive used frontpage since hmm what was fp98? im sorry i still love fp. ;-) macromedia can suck an egg.
VBScript only works on IE, duh, it won't run on Netscape/MozillaQuote:
Originally posted by MegaMan
nah just direct them to a link that says your browser sucks-- turn on IE-- or you could make a nice vbscript to open IE with your site in it for them ;-)
Dreamweaver spanks FrontPage any day:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by MegaMan
try not to look to microsoftish-- even if you HAVE to use frontpage ;-) everyone says adobe golive is good-- but ive used frontpage since hmm what was fp98? im sorry i still love fp. ;-) macromedia can suck an egg.
really i dont use netscape i wouldnt know..Quote:
Originally posted by jpbtennisman
VBScript only works on IE, duh, it won't run on Netscape/Mozilla
i heard they had 7 now?
i wasnt impressed by the GUI of dreamweaver i dont have time to learn a new app- besides ms works just fine-- and i dont use cold fusion so....? why bother.Quote:
Originally posted by jpbtennisman
Dreamweaver spanks FrontPage any day:rolleyes:
You people seem to underestimate the editing power of Notepad. I've never used anything else for web editing.
VBscript was a bad Idea from the get go, and mostly used for email attacks.
Dreamweaver is ok, its really not all that fast though. Frontpage is ****ty. I like interdev equally as much as dreamweaver, have not tried golive, and probably wont.
I also use only notepad.Quote:
Originally posted by crptcblade
You people seem to underestimate the editing power of Notepad. I've never used anything else for web editing.
I don't understand this at all. It really sounds like a macho thing to me. Even if you use a template and know HTML inside and out, there is no way you can put a page together as quickly this was as using a WSYIWGY editor.Quote:
Originally posted by crptcblade
You people seem to underestimate the editing power of Notepad. I've never used anything else for web editing.
Why not create the page initially with a web editor and then tweak it in notepad?
It's just my way. I suppose if I did stuff that was more complex, I would make a template with a WIZYWOO program, but I can put things together rather quickly without them.
:)
Anyone examples??
Also menu's what should i use DHTML or flash?
Flash takes longer! :(
But you don't "dry shave" right? :)Quote:
Originally posted by crptcblade
It's just my way. I suppose if I did stuff that was more complex, I would make a template with a WIZYWOO program, but I can put things together rather quickly without them.
:)
And your point is????Quote:
Originally posted by jpbtennisman
VBScript only works on IE, duh, it won't run on Netscape/Mozilla
Not the face anyway...Quote:
Originally posted by cafeenman
But you don't "dry shave" right? :)
For simple, I am stressing simple here, use flash. Don't make it your main menu. You have to think about all users, not just what you would prefer.Quote:
Originally posted by Beacon
Anyone examples??
Also menu's what should i use DHTML or flash?
Flash takes longer! :(
On the other hand, if you make it simple, like a basic menu, with a bit of flash magic, it can look really cool, and satisfy the average user. Example: http://westwood.ea.com/games/ccunive...sh/index.shtml (Check out their menu system)
When dealing with flash you have to look at 3 things;
1. Can someone on a modem download it quickly enough, before their attention strays some where else.
2. Is it easy to navigate
3. If your using it as a splash screen, have a link to an html version.
Now about DHTML, personally I dont really like it. It has it uses, I like the top bar drop down list navigation. But again that should not be your main navigation.
I think his point is its crap. I think so too.Quote:
Originally posted by Jethro
And your point is????
Gimlin, you are the spawn of Macromedia :eek:
What's wrong with using DHTML to create the menus? Most web pages use it, and for a reason: it's faster than Flash. I doubt there's anything wrong with it, either.
Imagine a knitted glove filled with dog excrement.
Imagine sitting on that glove wearing your best trousers.
Imagine the mess squeezing out through the weave of the glove and ruining your lovely expensive clothes.
Now double that feeling.
That is a close approximation to the experience of trying to build a web page using Adobe GoLive. It brings a tear to the eye.
LMFAO! :DQuote:
Originally posted by Behemoth
Imagine a knitted glove filled with dog excrement.
Imagine sitting on that glove wearing your best trousers.
Imagine the mess squeezing out through the weave of the glove and ruining your lovely expensive clothes.
Now double that feeling.
That is a close approximation to the experience of trying to build a web page using Adobe GoLive. It brings a tear to the eye.
I had GoLive on my machine for about 2 hours before I started crying and tearing my hair out. Then I did the right thing: I uninstalled it and threw the CD into the dustbin.
Flash might take longer but it looks much better. I just dont like DHTML, it has it uses but, its like trying to make a static page have flare. Why not just use the flare right off the bat. Keep the static content and flare appart.
Fireworks is a nice tool to make nav menus fast. Dreamweaver blows Frontpage out of the water. InterDev is pretty cool too. I just started messing with the vs.net web tools and they are the sheit. Is anyone using the latest flavor or Dev tools from Macromedia yet?
Flash MX is nice...haven't really tried the other MX stuff though.Quote:
Originally posted by BG
Fireworks is a nice tool to make nav menus fast. Dreamweaver blows Frontpage out of the water. InterDev is pretty cool too. I just started messing with the vs.net web tools and they are the sheit. Is anyone using the latest flavor or Dev tools from Macromedia yet?
I'm 50-50 on the new DWMX interface..
-C
Yeah, Flash is the stuff. And SWFs are very small anyhow...Quote:
Originally posted by Gimlin
Flash might take longer but it looks much better. I just dont like DHTML, it has it uses but, its like trying to make a static page have flare. Why not just use the flare right off the bat. Keep the static content and flare appart.
I haven't used DHTML a whole lot, but if the frontpage xp dhtml features are any indication, it should have never been created
-C
ROFLMAO! thanks for the warning!!!Quote:
Originally posted by Behemoth
Imagine a knitted glove filled with dog excrement.
Imagine sitting on that glove wearing your best trousers.
Imagine the mess squeezing out through the weave of the glove and ruining your lovely expensive clothes.
Now double that feeling.
That is a close approximation to the experience of trying to build a web page using Adobe GoLive. It brings a tear to the eye.
How dare u accuse Mr C of being macho!!! I have known him for a while now and can safely vouch for his questionable sexuality :)Quote:
Originally posted by cafeenman
I don't understand this at all. It really sounds like a macho thing to me. Even if you use a template and know HTML inside and out, there is no way you can put a page together as quickly this was as using a WSYIWGY editor.
Why not create the page initially with a web editor and then tweak it in notepad?
I used to do what u said.. ie make a page in frontpage and then tweak with notepad but now find that it is much easier to make a page direct in notepad. The way I see it is that u spend much more time stripping all of the unnecessary crap out of a page made with Frontpage. I cant speak for other editors but I now dont see any need to spend money on web site creation programs unless I was going to do something quite complex. (And as if that will ever happen :p )
Are those links in the pic below the right size for a webpage to be viewed by everybody?
http://www.vbforums.com/attachment.p...postid=1012015
The links are size twelve atm, the reason they appear bigger is because I copied them into word.
There A little big, best to go with 10 - 12 pt fontQuote:
Originally posted by Nightwalker83
Are those links in the pic below the right size for a webpage to be viewed by everybody?
The links are size twelve atm, the reason they appear bigger is because I copied them into word.Quote:
Originally posted by Gimlin
There A little big, best to go with 10 - 12 pt font
That makes sense :cool:
;)