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Originally posted by Jamagei
I reckon I'd be good at Judo. If I got a bit of fitness training and weight training in I could push my weight up to about 18 stone and then I would like to see someone throw me in the Judo ring :)

I tried boxing when I was about 11, I got punched in the face and it really hurt (then) so I gave up. What a ***** hey?

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Judo's all about weight & balance, doesn't matter if y're a fatbastud (prapps I should take that up again now..). My brothers & me did the 70's Judo phase as kids.... saw some big fatboys thrown all over the shop....:) I wasnt fat then :)

PeefatBoyMan

You'd be good at not getting thrown alright, didn't have much luck last time I tried to ippon seionage you... then again it's a bit difficult to get out of a pin when you have trouble just sitting up ;) Nah, Judo would suit you very well :)

Pee - Muai Thai is a sort of kickboxing but I don't think it's the kind of kickboxing you're talking about, that sounds a bit different. I've seen some Muai Thai and it seems a lot like western boxing but with the added bonus of long range kicks to places like the knees. I certainly don't claim to be any kind of expert on it though :)

I have balance. In fact (trying not to sound big headed) but I am very sure footed and not easy to get me down (or pick me up as Harry found out) :D

Come to think of it you did pretty well getting out of the kesa gatame Craig had you in last time you came up here. Mind you he's not exactly in your weight class :rolleyes:

Muay Thai is just nasty!

The people I know who do Muay Thai are just meatheads that like pain - even when training they do each other serious damage.

I don't think there's any rules to Muay Thai are there? Bite claw gouge kick rend tear mangle. Pleasant.

I'm not overly keen on Kick Boxing as a style, never really seen it as being that effective. That said, my Ju-Jitsu sensei was Phil Costin who was apparently world champion at kick boxing for a bit (or something - if anyone can elighten me as to whether this is true or not I'd be grateful as I've not found anything to support this...)

Re: Judo - even if you're 18 stone you can still be thrown to ground by an 8stone woman. Aikido's the best for that sort of a thing - Judo's more a sport really.

Re: Getting mugged - Boxer's are normally less reticient about getting in fights anyway and are generally less frightened. You tend to whack lumps out of each other in the ring in training whereas in most martial arts it's really just practicing moves.

And why the hell were people trying to mug a 16 stone walking building? I know I wouldn't... :D

He and Spiller would be a good match for weight, but Craig is a little under my weight :D

Are you coming down tonight?

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And why the hell were people trying to mug a 16 stone walking building? I know I wouldn't...

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Wasn't a mugging....

My brother (also a boxer at the time) and one of our friends (6' 4" big boy) were out in Worcester for a few beers.... It was a weekend of a 5 Nations game, Welsh boys had lost badly, got jumped by about 30 of the Pissed-up little gits (not all of them joined in mind yo'), must admit, those that did pretty much underestimated us though..... :D , we were lucky enough to get away with it all the same, badly outnumbered.....

Ah the fountain of youth......old & grey now bla bla bla......:)

Peeman.

Yeah I'll be in Yeovil around half 7 hopefully. It's Friday and noone on the Zope team is here except me so noone will care when Ieave. I'm coming straight down from work which is usually about 90 mins but the M3/A303 might be busy still in the wake of all the trains malarkey.

There's a few martial arts where they just try and mash each other up in training. Kind of an incentive to get good at not getting hit fast I guess. I think Kenpo is one of them, not sure though.

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Duncan, 1500 pounds? :confused:

It's just that I'll be in tonight, if you wanted to come over. A quiet night in making Papier Maché....

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Originally posted by Gaffer
Duncan, 1500 pounds? :confused:

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Errrrrrrrrr..... Nope, lost me. :confused:

I missed the location off. Time for a quick edit, methinks.

Papier Maché? You what?? *** are you doing that for? Part of your ongoing thespianism?

Dunno what I'm doing tonight but I'll probably come say hello. Really need to wash my car, seeing as it's going in for MoT tomorrow. Don't really want them to hate me for giving them a car covered in schitt :) I'm hoping they won't look too hard at it.

Duncan, he means your sig.

Yes, unfortunatly I have also been assigned to doing props for Ann as well. I need to make a papier maché Discworld by monday. Only the landscape, no turtle or elephants.

Well, you can wash my car if you want as well, mine is probably worse than yours.

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Man you folks in the UK must have some big stones :)

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• NO bloody sprinks pop up message boxes
• a lot of hidden services that are killing my pc :D
• Lotus Notes (not my fault - I love Outlook but the company ...)

Duncan, your sig, £1500 down....

Steve, ever seen Stonehenge?

:D £1500 down !
I've been £2000 down twice now & that was before I was 20!

Never getting in debt again (well not that bad anyway ;) now) :rolleyes:

Currently I am £5000 down. But i am not worried. Much. I am surviving :)

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Originally posted by Gaffer
Duncan, your sig, £1500 down....

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D'Oh. :rolleyes: Sorry; I was trying to work out how you got to 1,500lb from 12 stone... I frighten myself, sometimes.

I just booked our summer holiday, so I have £1,500 less than I had this morning. Two weeks in Sidari.... Bliss. :)

Alex & Jamagei: guess you've never had a mortgage, then...

Heh, was just about to give my debt details (mortgage), but may give myself a heart attack!

I have, over the last 3 years, had no unsecured debt - the first time ever -I left uni with 6 grand owed...

Not yet, but planning on it. Maybe next year (if) when house prices fall a bit. It'll be nice being 21/22 and owning a house on my own. :)

Look at it from the other side, then. I have a £95,000 mortgage on a house that's currently worth £180,000, so I'm £85,000 up.

That almost covers my Visa bill. :rolleyes:

Currently a little over 8 grand in debt, will be around 12 grand in mid 2003. Thank you student loan system.

At least I don't have to pay interest over inflation though. I heard they were considering making student loans non-interest-free, which strikes me as a bit dumb. I don't mind student loans (although the means-testing system is a pile of **** - that's speaking as someone who gets treated well by it and sees how bloody awful it is for some people, to the point where they can't carry on with their course without getting expensive commercial loans, so they drop out) but I really object to the idea of paying more interest on it. Not that it will affect me anyway.

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Originally posted by Jamagei
Steve, ever seen Stonehenge?

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I've seen pictures. I hope to be able to see them in person in the next month or so.


I have one house payment, two car payments, and vacation payments :(
Sheesh :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by HarryW
Currently a little over 8 grand in debt, will be around 12 grand in mid 2003. Thank you student loan system.

At least I don't have to pay interest over inflation though. I heard they were considering making student loans non-interest-free, which strikes me as a bit dumb. I don't mind student loans (although the means-testing system is a pile of **** - that's speaking as someone who gets treated well by it and sees how bloody awful it is for some people, to the point where they can't carry on with their course without getting expensive commercial loans, so they drop out) but I really object to the idea of paying more interest on it. Not that it will affect me anyway.

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I started uni in 1990, when Student loans first started - although it may seem like a crap system, it is actually very reasonable, both rates wiase, and personnel-wise. I payed it off in VERY small installment throughout my workign life after Uni, and they were OK about missed payments and stuff...

I think 10K is about normal now for post student debt - and lets face it, if you do programming as a profession, you'll probably spend that down Tesco on a Monday evening ;)

They are some big bits of stone.

I live about 3/4 hour from them.

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Originally posted by Gaffer


you'll probably spend that down Tesco on a Monday evening ;)

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Amen to that brother! :D

Well, I still have about £2000 in student loans, and I've got £55.5k left on my mortgage. My visa bill this month is about £1800 - gonna be the first time in my life I'll actually have to pay interest on my visa card!! :o

Wow, you went to Uni? We've got a clever guy on the forumns?
wow :eek: :cool:

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and lets face it, if you do programming as a profession, you'll probably spend that down Tesco on a Monday evening

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Err, how long have you been programming and WHERE THE HELL DO YOU WORK !??!?!?!?!?

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Originally posted by Gaffer
although it may seem like a crap system, it is actually very reasonable

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I agree it's a good system - I didn't say I thought the whole thing was bad, and I was just bitching about my debt like people do ;) - but the means testing they do is very flawed.

Case in point:

I am an example of someone that gets treated unfairly in comparison to other students, because I get a very good deal. I am in regular contact with and get on well with both my parents. They are divorcees, they divorced about 10 years ago now. Up until the point I started university I lived with my mother, who is a civil servant and earns a reasonable amount but not that much. Not enough to pay much more than the minimum parental contribution to my tuition fees takig only her income into account. My father on the other hand is a pretty well-off kind of guy, a programmer/manager type in a large company. I have his full financial support (if I need it) for my education. According to the means testing system, I am the child of a single parent on a mid-level income, so I get full loan and almost all my tuition fees are paid by the LEA. In reality, I am actively supported by both parents with a combined income that must qualify for the full whack when it comes to tuition fees, and would entitle me to much less loan.

Contrast this with some friends I have had at uni and have left because of this system:

They have very wealthy, married, parents that are opposed to or disinterested in their child taking a degree, even though they are legally adults and perfectly entitled to make their own decisions about their education/career. According to the system they have a lot of financial backing and need very little support from the LEA, so they get very little loan and have to pay full tuition fees. In reality, they are out on their own, and their parents have nothing to do with their finances or their education. Not only do they get very little loan, but they then have to pay full tuition fees out of that loan, leaving them with basically not enough to live on even if they work virtually all the time they aren't studying.

Student loans as a concept is a good idea IMO. Tuition fees isn't if you're expected to pay it out of the loan, it's okay if you get more loan to pay it (I don't mind paying them later), and means testing is one huge balls-up.

Excluding the mortgage, my debts are going down quite quickly thanks to the IT Industry. Thank you Mr Gates, the industry and divvy computer illiterates!:)

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Originally posted by Ianpbaker
Name: Ian Baker
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That's not what I heard? More like flesh colored...;)

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Originally posted by Ianpbaker
Currently Listening to: Just a day - Feeder

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Couldn't believe it when I heard about their drummer. Man he must have been depressed.

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Originally posted by Ianpbaker

Currently Running: Do you think a man of my weight does any running ?

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That much was apparent when I last saw you.:p
*Ducks*

He was 22 stone when I met him!!

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Originally posted by Arbiter
He was 22 stone when I met him!!

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