Other than they've blatantly copied some of the template stuff, which I think vBulletin copied from UBB (;)) there's nothing in the code that I recognised as being part of vBulletin.
However, the DB structure is pretty similar.
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Other than they've blatantly copied some of the template stuff, which I think vBulletin copied from UBB (;)) there's nothing in the code that I recognised as being part of vBulletin.
However, the DB structure is pretty similar.
hey, me having troble with wbb, I got it all set up, but can you see what this means and how to fix it??
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Fatal error: Cannot redeclare makeboardjumpbit2() in _board_jump.php on line 8
What version of PHP do you have?
Parksie, everyone, WBB has a COMPLETELY different code than vBulletin.
vBulletin uses the .style system for its looks and stuff. WBB uses a completely different method: it has a template directory with a HTML copy of all the files. Just because of that, the code differences are huge.
Also, if you compare the code of WBB and vB, you'll notice HUGE differences. Plus, WBB is primarily german.:D
PHP version 4Quote:
Originally posted by parksie
What version of PHP do you have?
does anyone know a good, free, PHP and MySQL web host??
go to www.webhostingforums.com, register there, and keep browsing the special offers boards.:D
There's lots of free offers there by people what usually run paid hosting.:)
website doesn't work :(Quote:
Originally posted by eiSecure
go to www.webhostingforums.com, register there, and keep browsing the special offers boards.:D
There's lots of free offers there by people what usually run paid hosting.:)
I meant: www.webhostingtalk.com
:)
did anybody think that John was the one that copied WBB in making vB?:o
hmmm, good point.
I already said that. Read my post more carefully ;)Quote:
Originally posted by eiSecure
Parksie, everyone, WBB has a COMPLETELY different code than vBulletin.
vBulletin uses the .style system for its looks and stuff. WBB uses a completely different method: it has a template directory with a HTML copy of all the files. Just because of that, the code differences are huge.
Also, if you compare the code of WBB and vB, you'll notice HUGE differences. Plus, WBB is primarily german.:D
I'm a busy person! I've got no time to pay attention.:D
Well, copy infringment, but yes. And it is not a new form.Quote:
Originally posted by thinktank2
If this is the case, would it be a new form of piracy ?
I'm not bringing anything new, I'm sure, but I have a question...
does anyone know if the web-based BBS has been patented? The American patent office is stupid enough to grant you a patent if you feel like filling out the paper work.
Nope, not patented.:)
Also, you can't really copyright look and feel. (Apple vs. Microsoft case)
I suspect you can copyright the exact wording of a few sentences. Clearly the copying that tennisman posted a screenshot of is unacceptable.Quote:
Originally posted by eiSecure
Nope, not patented.:)
Also, you can't really copyright look and feel. (Apple vs. Microsoft case)
I guess, but you can't really copyright the registration text. If you could, MS would have the little (c) logo everywhere.:D
Uhm, you can copy the registration text. You might not be able to copy an EULA, but that wasn't a EULA, just reasons to register.
Also, piracy is the illegal use and distribution of someone else's work. This is not taking, using, and giving vBulletin, this is making a different product that steals a lot of copiable text.
As to the patent, I'm not talking about patenting the look and feel. I'm talking about patenting the idea of having a web-based BBS. You see, recent a patent was awarded for eCards, and now Hallmark is paying royalties. Hallmark isn't using someone else's code or copy, they are using somene else's idea. Imagine, if you can patent an idea, a service, you could control the world.
I'll patent democracy, or representative republics. I'll patent something small, like valet parking. Or, I'll invent a whole new idea, and patent not the technologies used, but the simple idea. Roadside assistance? Oooo, something original, I'll patent the idea of using a dynamic web-serving technology such as ASP with a server-side DB to allow groups, clubs, or sports conferences a way to keep track of meetings, games, schedules, standings, and include a message center. Now if your youth soccer team, or your fantasy football team, or your BloodBowl league, want to keep track of anything online, they owe me money. Even if they write all the code themselves.
America is truely a wonderous contry. Only here can we create people more stupid than the ones we made yesterday.
What a country :rolleyes:
I think we neatly sidestep that one - I don't think you can get a European patent on things like that, so we wouldn't have to take any notice of the US patent on it.
Plus, our courts will just tell yours to f**k off again :D
Luckily, John lives in Europe, and not America.:D
We can copy vBulletin all we want.;)
What if I patented "using toilets" :D
u'll have to pay me every day...Either I'll get rich or u'll become nasty :D ha ha hah...evil evil.. :D :D :D
I guess.. James is in the USQuote:
Originally posted by eiSecure
Luckily, John lives in Europe, and not America.:D
We can copy vBulletin all we want.;)
Nope, because it's copyrighted, which is recognised by both America and England.Quote:
Originally posted by eiSecure
Luckily, John lives in Europe, and not America.:D
We can copy vBulletin all we want.;)
I don't care if vBulletin was designed in the UK. If I patent web-based BBSs, no one in America can supply a web-based BBS without paying royalties. VBWorld would have to stop serving the American audience or run the risk of infringing on my patent.
Indoor plumbing, that was a good one. I think I'll patent the idea of disposable, rolled, cotton-paper wipes. ;)
That's nobody in America.
Plus, the Yahoo! court cases proved that you cannot prosecute someone across country boundaries for something like this.
I think were getting confused between patents and copyrights here
I own the copyright to anything I produce, no matter where
I would however have to register a patent in every individual country.
You can't patent phrases. You can trademark them, but not patent them. Patents are for tangible inventions, not a generic idea like "web based bbs's".
That's my point. The American Patent office has awarded several patents for ideas. The most recent one that I know of: eCards.
Yes, I highly disagree with this mindset.
As to jurisdiction. What you copyright is copyrighted in any contry that has signed the Geneva World Copyright blah blah blah conventions. I forget the name, but they exist. In countries that didn't sign on, your copyright means nothing.
As to patents, if I patent it in a given country (America in this case) I have that idea. You can create it overseas, but you can't compete in my market(s) without paying royalties. In other words, if I patent a special way of making led free crystal in America, no one can sell that type of led free crytsal in America without paying me royalties. Ooo... interesting question, can they make it for free?
What was the Yahoo case?
okay, almost anywhere.Quote:
Originally posted by CiberTHuG
What you copyright is copyrighted in any contry that has signed the Geneva World Copyright blah blah blah conventions. I forget the name, but they exist. In countries that didn't sign on, your copyright means nothing.
it means the thread was deleted
Yahoo! Auctions had several Nazi-related items for sale, and France came into it somewhere having a problem.Quote:
Originally posted by CiberTHuG
What was the Yahoo case?
Basically, their government tried to inflict their jurisdiction on an American company simply because it was accessible in France, and tried to force Yahoo! to block French users from accessing the site.
Is it....Quote:
Originally posted by mlewis
it means the thread was deleted
"What does it mean when I can't reply to an email notification of a thread Reply?"
:D
Ah, yes, I remember now.
Well, that speaks to a bigger problem. For example, it is illegal to gamble in North Carolina, but yet I can access an online casino that is based in Las Vegas County, Nevada and gamble. The 'net knows no geography.
As to how to fix this, I have no idea. And given that precedent, if you supplied a service to a country where I held that patent, if you are outside the country, I probably can't do anything about it.
Yet another reason why the whole idea of giving patents on ideas is ludicrious.