1) A computer with a note saying "Ever used one of these?"
2) A monopoly board game with IT companies as houses and microsoft as hotels!
3) A brick!
4) A map with the indonesian island "Java" circled in red!
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1) A computer with a note saying "Ever used one of these?"
2) A monopoly board game with IT companies as houses and microsoft as hotels!
3) A brick!
4) A map with the indonesian island "Java" circled in red!
Not many of the users had this opinion. You are distinctively unique..Glad to meet you ;) All corel has to do is take some lessons from adobe and Macromedia.Quote:
Corel Wordperfect. Better than Word in my opinion, and has been for a very long time. It hasn't won.
It's the same thing you did to Windows . :PQuote:
What the hell are you doing to Linux to make it crash twice a day?
Correction: Linux didn't crash..KDE did. {But I've got some nasty freezes}
Well, he was referring to a hypothetical situation sneaking his own point without a proof. {if it isn't microsoft it's another megasoft and the world won't be a lot better than now}Quote:
What did you mean by "I can also say...simply put there would be a better medium if there wasn't an Internet" ?
I said..the PC wouldn't be popular without microsoft. What about Amiga ? Why wasn't it popular now ? It's microsoft marketing that did the trick.Quote:
Uhh... Linux would be for whatever platforms were popular. There are Linux binaries available for all sorts of platforms, and you can always get the source and compile
Obviously, that has lot of spelling mistakes {I typed with one finger while eating cookies...excuse}Quote:
I read that three times and I can't make any sense of it.
But I did pay for the cd + shipping + support.Quote:
But ofcourse, it is free, so you won't get a refund.
That's a good point. Just ask your company or whatever org you are working for, to reduce their customers. of Course, they don't mean anything.Quote:
the best selling SUV on this planet is by far the worst. Following doesn't mean anything.
Thanks for the history lesson :D but there wouldn't be a need for linux if there isn't a PC {Which became popular 'cos of Microsoft}.Quote:
Linux was born on the PC, not migrated to it.
Every one in the world would then be using a version *nix and would be calling each others version "crappy"...and some might even go to the extent of throwing pies at their CEOs.
Well..you are so appreciative about "Write once Run Every where crap" but could not tolerate an ECMA standard {C# and CLI infrastructure, Open for anybody in the world to develop and port to any other operating system} Submitted by microsoft ?? Isn't C# an Innovation of this time ?
This from O'reilly.com
http://java.oreilly.com/news/farley_0800.html
Quote:
For the Java and Open Source communities:
It would be easy to dismiss .NET as more Microsoft marketing-ware and continue on your merry way. But don't. .NET is a sign of a subtle but significant shift in Microsoft's strategy to evangelize their platforms. They have been fighting alternative frameworks and platforms at the management level pretty well, touting the usual questionable "statistics" about cost of ownership and seamless integration. Now they are fighting Java and open source initiatives on their own terms, putting their own spin on "open" and attempting to directly address the needs of developers, two things that they have been faulted for not doing very well in the past. If you consider yourself an evangelist for Java or open source platforms, then the nature of the war is changing. Be prepared.
Well...My dear Audience, What I am saying is this. Don't throw pie at anyone or indulge in equally _ acts. You can't bring down microsoft by throwing pies. You can of course spend the time helping a fellow making a free software.
And Microsoft is no devil than anyother business in the Industry.
All of them want your money. And the funny thing is ...you are working for one of them.
Pie throwers, good luck ! and change the world.
I know what you can do, throw him a bag with a note saying "Give me 99.9% of your money," then throw him a big BIG glass or something at him :D ;)
"It's the same thing you did to Windows . :P
Correction: Linux didn't crash..KDE did. {But I've got some nasty freezes} "
Enlightenment is great! Swicth to that instead of gnome or KDE!
Ohh and as only one other person on here knows 1 word Irix.;) ;)
Enlightenment is window manager not a desktop.. :p
No body rich enough to have SGI hardware..
meh make your own desktop then!
I bought an SGi for $1000 Australian thought it was made in 1995!
Good deal i reckon!
the company sold about 4 of them we only have 2 here nowadays!
:(
It's not that i hate Microsoft or Bill gates its just.. he's so famous. i realy need to throw something at him.
So i can tell to my childrens (i dont have them yet) . "i throwed something at Bill Gates" ;) *laughing*
I remember that guy. He's been doing that for years.Quote:
Originally posted by crptcblade
I wonder what happened to that guy. Bill probably had him thrown into the bottomless pit at MS HQ :D
He's Belgian and calls himself "Gloup Gloup".
His aim : embarrassing world leaders and powerfull people around the world.
Did it with some French big wig in the European parliament and his next target is supposed to be the Pope.
Belgians eh ... real big morons over here. Believe me, I know. :D
I know quite a few people who prefer WordPerfect. WordPerfect was far better than Word for long after Word became the market leader. Word's getting better now, but I still prefer WP. I'm not in the kind of minority you'd like to portray me in.Quote:
Originally posted by thinktank2
Not many of the users had this opinion. You are distinctively unique..Glad to meet you ;) All corel has to do is take some lessons from adobe and Macromedia.
'Did the trick'? Sorry, but what exactly is so great about killing off Amiga? You make it sound like it's a good thing.Quote:
Originally posted by thinktank2
I said..the PC wouldn't be popular without microsoft. What about Amiga ? Why wasn't it popular now ? It's microsoft marketing that did the trick.
So what exactly is your point here? If M$ hadn't achieved global dominion we wouldn't have had Linux? Personally I don't particularly care. Whatever gaps there would be in the market would get filled with something. Maybe we wouldn't have had Linux but that doesn't bother me because we probably wouldn't need it.Quote:
Originally posted by thinktank2
there wouldn't be a need for linux if there isn't a PC {Which became popular 'cos of Microsoft}.
Every one in the world would then be using a version *nix and would be calling each others version "crappy"...and some might even go to the extent of throwing pies at their CEOs.
Why exactly is WORE 'crap'? Maybe it doesn't matter to you if you are only every going to use one platform, but for a cross-platform medium like the internet open standards and platform independance are pretty much essential.Quote:
Originally posted by thinktank2
Well..you are so appreciative about "Write once Run Every where crap" but could not tolerate an ECMA standard {C# and CLI infrastructure, Open for anybody in the world to develop and port to any other operating system} Submitted by microsoft ?? Isn't C# an Innovation of this time ?
I don't see anything much that's new in C#. Smells like an attempt to rip off Java to me, and be able to make it biased towards M$ platforms without getting sued.
Ah, the Amiga. Between that and the 68K and 88K, you have more examples of better technologies dying off.Quote:
Originally posted by thinktank2
I said..the PC wouldn't be popular without microsoft. What about Amiga ? Why wasn't it popular now ? It's microsoft marketing that did the trick.
Cookie is her name? ;)Quote:
Obviously, that has lot of spelling mistakes {I typed with one finger while eating cookies...excuse}
Well, there would be distro wars, but no distro would be accused of unsavory practices. They would just be accused of making crappy distros. That I can live with. I don't mind Ford so much because, yes, they make a crappy product. But they aren't trying to redefine the roads so that only their crappy cars can use them.Quote:
Thanks for the history lesson :D but there wouldn't be a need for linux if there isn't a PC {Which became popular 'cos of Microsoft}.
Every one in the world would then be using a version *nix and would be calling each others version "crappy"...and some might even go to the extent of throwing pies at their CEOs.
C# is MS's copy of Java. No innovation. And I expect proprietary extension for C# running on a MS platform. JScript is MS's ECMAScript complaint language. MS didn't create or innovate ECMAScript. ECMA is a European association that helps set standards. After JavaScript (Netscape) came out, they helped set the standard, and map it to the W3C's DOM.Quote:
Well..you are so appreciative about "Write once Run Every where crap" but could not tolerate an ECMA standard {C# and CLI infrastructure, Open for anybody in the world to develop and port to any other operating system} Submitted by microsoft ?? Isn't C# an Innovation of this time ?
I don't think MS owns ECMA. (Maybe I'm missing something here, has MS turned over C# to be set up by ECMA? If so, I still expect MS to extend it on their platform.)
4Dwm rocks!Quote:
Originally posted by thinktank2
Enlightenment is window manager not a desktop.. :p
No body rich enough to have SGI hardware..
:D :D :eek:Quote:
Cookie is her name? ;)
Part-I
Genamics is a software and web development firm whose customers include numerous Fortune 500 companies and other multi-billion dollar organizations, including Exxon-Mobil, CommerceOne, Compaq Computers, Hewlett Packard, Baan, Healtheon, Peter Kiewit Sons', and Siemens.Quote:
C# is MS's copy of Java
Ben Albahari is a developer working at Genamics.
Read his comparitive review C# and JAVA at http://genamics.com/developer/csharp_comparative.htm
Read the conclusion he arrives at.
Part-II
ECMA
You can always know what's happening at the ECMA..Microsoft is not alone..in describing the standard. The follwoing companies are Involved in the ECMA TC39/TG2 and TC39/TG3 Standards..
Fujitsu Software, Hewlett-Packard, Intel Corporation, International Business Machines, ISE, Microsoft Corporation, Monash University, Netscape, OpenWave, Plum Hall, Sun Microsystems
http://msdn.microsoft.com/net/ecma/
What's interesting about C# is that Microsoft bothered to submit it to a standards group. From what I understand, that isn't true of Java, Perl, Python, Ruby, Tcl or very many other languages out there. Regardless, fretting about whether or not Microsoft will dominate the standard while doing nothing will almost certainly lead to that being a self-fulfilling prophesy.
Why wasn't JAVA thrown open source ?? JAVA is still a property of Sun Microsystems. They can change their license anytime like Unisys did.
PART-III
NO comments ;)Quote:
but I still prefer WP
I am using a PC and I am faithful to it. What about you ??Quote:
Sorry, but what exactly is so great about killing off Amiga? You make it sound like it's a good thing.
I am using it because..I feel it is better than AMIGA or MAC.
If I liked the amiga, I wouldn't be wasting my time on a PC :p
First..Java is not open, they haven't released the source code.Quote:
Maybe it doesn't matter to you if you are only every going to use one platform, but for a cross-platform medium like the internet open standards and platform independance are pretty much essential.
Second..."Write once run anywhere is a marketing slogan"
No this is not someone from microsoft that's telling..This is JAMES GOSLING the creator of JAVA.
Read his answer to the very first question.
http://www.devx.com/judgingjava/arti...ng/default.asp
When he was cross-examined in the Microsoft case...
http://www.itnews.com.au/crn/news/018-0412b.htmQuote:
Gosling did, in fact, say the Write Once, Run Anywhere slogan was used to market Java, but he said it remains a "goal" that Sun is gradually coming closer to meeting.
Open source people are developing an open source C# implementation and CLI infrastructure. JAVA's source code and implementation won't be revealed to you anytime by SUN and it's a property of SUN microsystems.Quote:
I don't see anything much that's new in C#. Smells like an attempt to rip off Java to me, and be able to make it biased towards M$ platforms without getting sued.
There is already a open source .NET {mono} project going on..
http://www.go-mono.com/
Read the faq's especially the one about Ximian and Microsoft..
Don't be left behind...this is what the people at O'reilly.com say.
O'reilly associates are supportive of the open source community.
I funny to see that they are more post than vote ....