yeah, I would have just captured the keycodes with a hook nowadays but back then i made a whole screen which the user wrote in the login and pass
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yeah, I would have just captured the keycodes with a hook nowadays but back then i made a whole screen which the user wrote in the login and pass
hm... ask him if i can have a copy of the program...Quote:
Originally posted by sail3005
yesterday in programming class, my friend installed a fake novell login screen. It stores all usernames and passwords. heh, it's only a matter of time before an admin logs in...
I also made the screen and boxes and everything else.....for the fake program in vb....:)
Ah there's hundreds of them on the net.
I don't think that should work under NT....
anyway, I don't think an admin would fall for it :)
No admin would trouble him/herself with checking the tasklist every time he/she logs in(and furthermore if it's it removed from the ctrl-alt-delete, what can you do?)Quote:
Originally posted by plenderj
Ah there's hundreds of them on the net.
I don't think that should work under NT....
anyway, I don't think an admin would fall for it :)
You can't use a systemwide/global keyboard hook to catch CTRL-ALT-DEL under NT. So you could only fake it under 9x kernels I would imagine.
ok then, I suppose you know from experience ;)
I'll keep to the hackin', and you keep to the transcending :)
oh btw, I'll be putting the books in the post today.
thanks man :) Just don't h4x0r me;)
Password grabbers are OLD. Plus, it's a great way to get expelled/fired.
Laws extending existing legal concepts to the internet & computers (copyright, data ownership, etc) have prolierated in the past 10 years. If you have an Admin (or his boss) who is an a$$hole, you can be prosecuted as well.
As they say - fair warning.
hmmmmm....maybe i better tell my friend about that.....
:)there parents probably finally let them watch the matrix :)Quote:
whats with the excessive amounts of people asking how to hack lately?
i did that on a college network (some years ago...) and it reeped many logins muhahahah ;however im not the kind of person to use then with harmful intent :)Quote:
it shouldn't be too hard to do a fake novell login-program in c++
this conversation has reminded me about the old point that hacking is just editing code to get it todo the exact task you want, and cracking is finding vunrabilities in systems... dunno if thats actually a fact :)
*cough* diggage! *cough*
Your last point is correct, yeah. An example of hacking (in a programming sense, it's actually more generic than this) is to, for example, get the code for a tool like "tar", and add an option to filter it all through a decompression engine first. In fact, this is now a standard option, but many years ago someone would have just done it, and sent the code back to any maintainers.
Benefit? One less command, and less temporary files left around. Score one for usage :)
Does anyone know when exactly (or inexactly, if there is no exact answer) the word "hacker" got corrupted?
I Write programs...and i modify programs to get them to do what i want not decompiling or anything it's programs that have the source avaiable to download. and i change them to do what i want.
Is that hacking ?
I would like to think of myself as a amature programmer.
More or less, yeah :)
it dosent say anywhere that i cannot modify the source code i download.
so i wouldnt assume what i was doing is illegall or hacking....
Hacking is not illegal by definition.
However, take Word, for example, hacking that to do something different *is* illegal, since you're forbidden from doing that by the licence.
some time ago as it seesm to be embedded in the minds of many.... including the media... :( the amount of times people talk about hacking in the wrong way, and i feel like correcting them but i would then feel like a pleb so i dont :)Quote:
Does anyone know when exactly (or inexactly, if there is no exact answer) the word "hacker" got corrupted?
Actually...it's under the GNU LESSER GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
What is?
To send a message saying die!!! to everyone on the network type in dos:
net send * die!!!!
to only one person:
net send 'user name here' die!!!
I had to do something about language we use, in English Lit, and it was the general agreement of the class that words are defined by the majority. So if everyone thinks that a Hacker is someone bad then thats how its going to stay.Quote:
Originally posted by sk8o
some time ago as it seesm to be embedded in the minds of many.... including the media... :( the amount of times people talk about hacking in the wrong way, and i feel like correcting them but i would then feel like a pleb so i dont :)
For example the word bollocks, now days its offencive, but its original meaning wasnt. Richard branson(sp) used it when defending the sex pistols.
Anyway if you wanted to get the good name of the hacker back then maybe we should just go round and tell people thats hacker ==good or something.
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by spazblinchy
To send a message saying die!!! to everyone on the network type in dos:
net send * die!!!!
to only one person:
net send 'user name here' die!!!
Channel 7 in Australia recently aired the movie hackers (by recently, I may mean months ago). Although everything they do in that film is complete cr*p (the methods they use anyway), I can still remember people at school the day after talking about it, even some of the younger ones. It's lame really, how they think they can h4x things, delete things...they never try and understand how it all works, or anything (btw, same with phreaking).Quote:
whats with the excessive amounts of people asking how to hack lately?
Phreak
One problem these dumb people asking to hack have is that they are not anywhere near smart enough to hack anything. Lets face it even the dumb microsoft guys arent gonna let some 13 year old type a few lines of code and hack anything. Few people are smart enough to legitimately hack anything of significance its incredibly hard to do well maybe not windows.