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Niya
It may surprise you to know that you are every bit as incomprehensible to me as I am to you. What is happening here is a microcosm of what is happening in the US and across much of the first world. There was a time when we were more united by what we shared in common than we were divided by our differences. Somewhere along the line these differences became dogmatic and tolerance for these differences dwindled drastically. We are no longer willing to listen to each other and this is a very sad state of affairs and I don't know what the solution is. So I guess each side will have to duel it out until one or the other wins. History will decide which of us is right.
That's a good point. I feel that way, too. I have some theories as to why it is, and you might say it all comes down to social media, but perhaps not in the typical way.
We've always had differences between one another. Even if we generally agreed, we disagreed on some points, or to some degree on points that we mostly agree on. We always had ways to paper over that. We do it through talking in person, which involves a whole lot of non-verbal communication. The disagreements were still there, we just worked around them.
I don't think that happens on social media. It's not just that the non-verbal communication isn't possible, it also that it isn't necessary. Who is your audience? One person? A crowd? Supporters? Opponents? Almost regardless of which of those you choose (you can choose more than one), aside from talking to just one person, then there is no need or value in papering over anything. Heck, it isn't even necessary to be particularly precise about what you are saying. It's too easy to say something that is, 'close enough' to what you actually mean, and just post it.
That makes social media more likely to divide. The societal glue (or perhaps grease, since it reduces friction) of communication is stripped away by social media. We speak both poorly and hastily.
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It's interesting that any non-American would support an hardcore "America First" at all costs administration, or that a gay, black atheist would support an administration that will likely do more to advance the Project 2025 vision of the future than any other, or that a non-mega-millionaire/billionaire would support an administration that will likely do more to advance the ideas behind Yarvin's Butterfly Revolution than any other, but here we are.
I'm not sure what's in it for you guys long term, but IMO you have one foot firmly in "Leopard's ate my face" territory. Only time will tell though, but it's hard to imagine that those of you in the supportive out-groups will fare much better than those in the currently non-supportive out-groups once you've inevitably outlived your usefulness to the forces behind the "new, new world order" should they be successful.
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sapator
Niya thinks it was accidental
Actually, I don't even bother to dignify this with an answer. This whole Nazi salute thing is simply leftist sensationalism. It's petty, childish, and stupid and to engage in such a debate would lend it legitimacy. This to me is no different than these stupid debates liberals like to have about whether the word "fireman" is misogynistic because it contains the word "man" in it. This is so utterly stupid and childish to me that the only response I can ever muster in a conversation like this is to mock it.
I mean if I sat down across from a person that wants to convince me to stop using the word "fireman", I would most likely be just laughing my ass off the whole time. I can't take that stuff seriously. I once read an article by a liberal that was worried about his son because he like to play with trucks. He invented these wild fantasies about his son growing up to be a toxically masculine rapist or some such thing. I mean these aren't serious people. These are the kinds of absurdities they like to spend their time on and I can't be bothered with it. This doesn't even register with me. It's just empty noise to me. Sorry to say.
Do I think it was a Nazi salute or it was accidental? My answer is no answer. I simply refuse to even engage in this debate.
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Liberals don't actually have discussions like that. I've been a liberal for over fifty years and have been around liberals for all of that time. The best I can say is that either this is something a few say to tweak fragile conservatives, or it's a case of conservatives coming up with the fight they want to have rather than the one they actually have.
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Liberals don't actually have discussions like that. I've been a liberal for over fifty years and have been around liberals for all of that time. The best I can say is that either this is something a few say to tweak fragile conservatives, or it's a case of conservatives coming up with the fight they want to have rather than the one they actually have.
The radical leftists are the ones having these types of frivolous rage-bait discussions. You may not be one of them but they are your thought leaders despite being a tiny minority of the liberal demographic. You're all part of the same cabal.
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That's a good point. I feel that way, too. I have some theories as to why it is, and you might say it all comes down to social media, but perhaps not in the typical way.
We've always had differences between one another. Even if we generally agreed, we disagreed on some points, or to some degree on points that we mostly agree on. We always had ways to paper over that. We do it through talking in person, which involves a whole lot of non-verbal communication. The disagreements were still there, we just worked around them.
I don't think that happens on social media. It's not just that the non-verbal communication isn't possible, it also that it isn't necessary. Who is your audience? One person? A crowd? Supporters? Opponents? Almost regardless of which of those you choose (you can choose more than one), aside from talking to just one person, then there is no need or value in papering over anything. Heck, it isn't even necessary to be particularly precise about what you are saying. It's too easy to say something that is, 'close enough' to what you actually mean, and just post it.
That makes social media more likely to divide. The societal glue (or perhaps grease, since it reduces friction) of communication is stripped away by social media. We speak both poorly and hastily.
In its simplest form I think it is the sense of anonymity. And, as mentioned, feeling empowered to say things you wouldn't say to their face. I've posted responses here that if I was sitting across the table from the poster I would not have said. I've been trying to watch that. I've even made that mistake early in my career as an professional in emails, forgetting my audience are people too. A good rule of thumb might be "would I say that if the person was sitting across from me".
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The corruption runs deep!
'USAID funded Trump impeachment…': Shellenberger exposes Deep State at US House hearing
https://youtu.be/gmd0E8NH_lA?si=UKRKOquj-nXCFw3B
The jackboot is most certainly on the other foot.
But the question isn't so much why the "left" is so incestually entwined with the Deep State, but why people have been so asleep at the wheel that they permitted it to be established. We've had warnings shouted from high podiums, from Eisenhower to Carter to Perot. We've even had warnings in popular culture, dating back at least to the 1968 DNC Convention:
https://youtu.be/ORuS1-437bA?si=DcLDVpvfMywTaR0z
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Was talking to a friend of mine that's a big Trump supporter. He was complaining about rising gas prices and I said yeah, I'm starting to worry that Trump might not have been telling the truth about bring gas and egg prices down on Day One. He said it was our governors fault. ;)
But I ended up checking out the gas price situation and found something I hadn't heard of. Here in CA we have two different blends of gasoline. A winter blend and a summer blend (that produces less smog). Between that and taxes we pay over a $1.5 gallon more that the national average.
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I believe those two blends are nationwide, not just in CA. That's part of the reason why the price of gas always rises heading towards Memorial Day. It's too far out for that to be the cause of the recent rises, but these rises have been too small to need a reason. Gas prices change. It happens. Trump never had a chance on that one. Oil production can't overcome lack of refinery capacity. Increasing refinery capacity isn't quick and it isn't cheap, so refinery operators only build new refinery infrastructure if they believe that there will be a long-term return on the investment. There's no evidence that they think that's a good investment at the moment, so drilling for oil gains nothing domestically.
Also, drilling in the US generally requires a price that ranges from 60-70 dollars/barrel. The price is around that, now, but only somewhat above that. Increased production decreases price. In the wild west days of the fracking boom, everybody was jumping in, so the price of oil dropped so far it sometimes even went negative (producers had to pay people to store it). That drove lots of companies out of business and drove the consolidation of others. Now, the remaining companies are more circumspect about drilling. Not too much, not too little.
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Shaggy Hiker
I believe those two blends are nationwide, not just in CA. That's part of the reason why the price of gas always rises heading towards Memorial Day. It's too far out for that to be the cause of the recent rises, but these rises have been too small to need a reason. Gas prices change. It happens. Trump never had a chance on that one. Oil production can't overcome lack of refinery capacity. Increasing refinery capacity isn't quick and it isn't cheap, so refinery operators only build new refinery infrastructure if they believe that there will be a long-term return on the investment. There's no evidence that they think that's a good investment at the moment, so drilling for oil gains nothing domestically.
Also, drilling in the US generally requires a price that ranges from
60-70 dollars/barrel. The price is around that, now, but only somewhat above that. Increased production decreases price. In the wild west days of the fracking boom, everybody was jumping in, so the price of oil dropped so far it sometimes even went negative (producers had to pay people to store it). That drove lots of companies out of business and drove the consolidation of others. Now, the remaining companies are more circumspect about drilling. Not too much, not too little.
I believe they said that it takes a while to change over from one blend to another. A couple of local refineries were down for the change and maintenance and there was a fire at another so our prices have been up more than usual.
Whether that's all true, I have no idea.
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I've seen most of what he's made, but I have to admit that it has been several years....more years than I'd like, probably. Which film is it?
Once upon a time in Hollywood
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I believe they said that it takes a while to change over from one blend to another. A couple of local refineries were down for the change and maintenance and there was a fire at another so our prices have been up more than usual.
Whether that's all true, I have no idea.
As far as summer and winter blends that has been in place for a long time.
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Saudi Arabia to host US-Russia talks on Ukraine, as UK says it’s ‘ready and willing’ to put troops on ground
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/16/e...iluminar_yahoo
I don't get the UK put troops tho. They have less troops than Greece, what exactly do they think? Or it's the NATO except US? In that case I hope our Prime idiot dares to send more than the reserved special forces, he will fall with a bang.
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What Really Happened on January 6th | Dr. Simone Gold
https://youtu.be/ZcdSVbq9vTU?si=NQUQX9r9B5QSVZzs
Short answer: corrupt political theatre, deep state, corrupt D.C. judiciary.
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Rewriting history is the first step of an autocrat.
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dilettante
Man, I would sell everything I own just to have a 5 minute conversation with Jordan Peterson. He is one of the most brilliant people I have ever listened to.
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Rewriting history is the first step of an autocrat.
I don't think Dil is trying to be an autocrat. It's more about affirming this long held delusion.
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corrupt political theatre, deep state, corrupt D.C. judiciary
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It's not all that long held, it's just spiraling further and further into madness. Anybody can find drivel on the internet. Youtube is loaded with it, even on utterly harmless topics. The issue is blandly accepting it.
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Ye it's frustrating that before we where protected by the "false news" as Zuk told and now we actually have a chance to filter our info. Oh, sob, oh poor people getting another view. :cry::cry:
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Ye it's frustrating that before we where protected by the "false news" as Zuk told and now we actually have a chance to filter our info. Oh, sob, oh poor people getting another view. :cry::cry:
This has nothing to do with Zuk or anything else that's currently happening. This kind of nonsense has been around sense the day it happened and never been hard to find.
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I see, from what I get, If you where only talking about 6th, then what I wrote was irrelevant. No comment on that I haven't been following.
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That is equally brilliant, and worrying close to the truth!
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:D definitely one everyone should watch.
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the Mrbeast video is nice but this has been used as an excuse since the known thread. I think Plau accused me for a flat earther back then but may be mistaken. Not arguing (since, again, haven't followed those events) just saying it's an old one.
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I thought he accused you of being a pita earther...with fried meat and vegetables.
I may be remembering it wrong...though I could probably find a Youtube video about it....or make one....or go do something useful.
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Ehh can't recall. Pita earther or Pita eater? Hopefully fingers crossed for the second!
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The issue is, I was thinking to start my yearly diet. Meaning I have to lose 3 kilos till Summer but with pita this and pita that , I'm ordering souvlakia with Pita now. :mad:
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Yeah, well I'm looking at five days of heartburn. Great food, but spicy.
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I hadn't heard this lie before.
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news...001117320.html
I wonder how many of Trump and Musk minions will just except that lie as truth. Probably the same ones that'll believe Trumps claim that Ukraine started the war.
I knew this type of stuff was coming but it's still disappointing to see happen.
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I hadn't heard this lie before.
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news...001117320.html
I wonder how many of Trump and Musk minions will just except that lie as truth. Probably the same ones that'll believe Trumps claim that Ukraine started the war.
I knew this type of stuff was coming but it's still disappointing to see happen.
It has barely been a month...what forty-seven more? Then his son(s) takes over :p
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wes4dbt
First I had heard of that one as well!
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I wonder how many of Trump and Musk minions will just except that lie as truth. Probably the same ones that'll believe Trumps claim that Ukraine started the war.
I knew this type of stuff was coming but it's still disappointing to see happen.
Probably most of them will, depends on if there is a youtube video of the lie or not...
Good to see how Ukraine is at fault for the war, obviously Putin is the victim here. He is lying about President Zelensky's approval ratings, ranting about no Ukrainian elections when the country is at war - but not having any issues with Russia's lack of fair elections.
Good to see that under the new Presidency that Russia is now your friend (whatever happened to communism being bad?) but Europe (in general), Panama, Canada, Denmark, Greenland, Germany (seemingly specifically), and Ukraine are now the enemy.
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Great.
You don't like patriots you like Wokers , we get it already.
I don't think you where referring to me as Russia was always my friend, not Niya as is not from US, so , for whom the bell tolls? It's quite obvious , it starts with a D. Don't be shy now confront you inner enemy. :bigyello:
And a good pat, for you , pat pat. There there US will hate Russia again soon, be strong.
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The news story included a link to the SSA report that was distorted and exaggerated. It's interesting reading. There are some good recommendations in there, but I was particularly struck by the fact that claimants had to self report changes in circumstances. Anybody who works in programming probably has a pretty good idea as to how well THAT will go. The solution is a good one, but not one that will be fast to implement. It would require that states be capable of assisting, which some will be and others won't be.
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Great.
You don't like patriots you like Wokers , we get it already.
I don't think you where referring to me as Russia was always my friend, not Niya as is not from US, so , for whom the bell tolls? It's quite obvious , it starts with a D. Don't be shy now confront you inner enemy. :bigyello:
And a good pat, for you , pat pat. There there US will hate Russia again soon, be strong.
Sometimes I have absolutely no idea what on earth you are going on about, this is definitely one of those times. I especially like the random use of the word "Woke" you like to throw around as if it means anything at all.
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Good to see that under the new Presidency that Russia is now your friend (whatever happened to communism being bad?)
Russia doesn't have a communist government, Putin is a dictator. Something Trump wants to be.
What Trump is doing is no surprise. His first term he did the same thing. Praised Putin, while throwing the US under the bus in an attempt to suck up to Putin.
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Russia doesn't have a communist government, Putin is a dictator. Something Trump wants to be.
What Trump is doing is no surprise. His first term he did the same thing. Praised Putin, while throwing the US under the bus in an attempt to suck up to Putin.
That is very true, Trump has always admired and tried to emulate dictators; looks like this time he isn't just throwing the US under the bus, he is trying to throw most of his former allies under as well.
His recent actions in effectively firing everyone who's job was to provide some level of control and accountability, and now making independent agencies answerable to the white house pretty much removes any checks and balances on his abuses of power.
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His recent actions in effectively firing everyone who's job was to provide some level of control and accountability, and now making independent agencies answerable to the white house pretty much removes any checks and balances on his abuses of power.
This is probably the most disturbing thing that's happening to me.
With almost all the Republican members of congress afraid to oppose anything he does it's hard to say what our government will be like in a few years.
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This is probably the most disturbing thing that's happening to me.
With almost all the Republican members of congress afraid to oppose anything he does it's hard to say what our government will be like in a few years.
I wouldn't even like to guess at how things will change in your country, unfortunately I think it will definitely change the USA's standing on the world stage - I can't see your current (but possibly not for much longer) allies forgiving the tariffs, the giving in to Putin, Vance's anti Europe rant, etc. Relations are going to take a long time to fix.
I can see Trump's attitude seriously impacting the USA's cost of living and trade arrangements, while also giving another country (probably China) the chance to replace it in regards to status and trade.
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Good to see that under the new Presidency that Russia is now your friend (whatever happened to communism being bad?) but Europe (in general), Panama, Canada, Denmark, Greenland, Germany (seemingly specifically), and Ukraine are now the enemy.
If I don't know what I'm talking about then imagine (didn't want go do there but you provoke me) what we read above.
Russia is communist , Panama and Canada is in Europe or Denmark, Greenland and Germany is not in Europe, you decide and Ukraine is the Enemy of Trump.
Also how do you put Europe as a woker? I can tell you about Greece that we are not against Russia same goes for other countries of Europe, so stop insulting us and also get your geography straight before you start pointing the finger.
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Something interesting I just read elsewhere online...
Trump has set himself up as a neutral 3rd party who can negotiate peace between Russia and Ukraine.
Trump has now gone on record as calling Zelenskyy a dictator, and said he had "better move fast" or he "won’t have a country left", how on earth can he now still claim neutrality regarding the conflict? Surely his recent outburst effectively disqualifies him from the position of negotiator.
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How can he claim anything? Trump says whatever he feels sounds good at the moment. Why bother pointing out that he's lying? Even when he tells the truth, it is only because it is convenient at the moment. The common root is that it is convenient to the moment, not whether it is true or false.
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Russia is communist , Panama and Canada is in Europe or Denmark, Greenland and Germany is not in Europe, you decide and Ukraine is the Enemy of Trump.
That's not what PD said, not even close. Hopefully due to the language barrier.
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I can tell you about Greece that we are not against Russia same goes for other countries of Europe, so stop insulting us and also get your geography straight before you start pointing the finger.
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As of 2024, only 28% of Greeks have a favorable view of Russia, while 70% have a negative opinion.
I was unable to find anything that supports Greece being pro Russia. Though it does seem Greece tries to maintain a stable relationship with Russia and there are some religious bonds between the two countries.
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First who appointed you negotiator? We are indulging in fine "conflicts" with Plu , what's your deal?
Second it goes to saw the "whatever I read is the truth" . Pal, I live here, so don't even try it.
Also Trump can do whatever as long as we have peace. Or you just don't want peace because Trump is negotiating. Zelensky is a dictator and clown and an idiot. Again Trump is reading sapator.
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First who appointed you negotiator? We are indulging in fine "conflicts" with Plu , what's your deal?
If you want a private "conflict" then use PM, not an open forum.
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Pal, I live here, so don't even try it
Why not?? You are continuously tell people in the US what's really going on in the US.
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Also Trump can do whatever as long as we have peace.
So if Trump negotiate peace by giving Russia half of Greece, that's OK. As long as there is peace.
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Jordan Peterson - Why the Elites Went Hard Left
https://youtu.be/RjXXMd8R2N4?si=EloKhSyDU9sVWWyY
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If you want a private "conflict" then use PM, not an open forum.
You popped like a trud but sure, you added a post
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Why not?? You are continuously tell people in the US what's really going on in the US.
Irrelevant whatever, did I say that US people are 28% with Ukraine and 70% with Russia? (that's your totals, so) but again, you added a post.A trud post since we have long bonds with Russia but again, you added a post
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So if Trump negotiate peace by giving Russia half of Greece, that's OK. As long as there is peace.
We are not at war, the example is whatever irrelevant, we can extend it to any country vs any country, but again, you added a post.
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You popped like a trud but sure, you added a post
Irrelevant whatever, did I say that US people are 28% with Ukraine and 70% with Russia? (that's your totals, so) but again, you added a post.A trud post since we have long bonds with Russia but again, you added a post
We are not at war, the example is whatever irrelevant, we can extend it to any country vs any country, but again, you added a post.
A lot of noise but no information.
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did I say that US people are 28% with Ukraine and 70% with Russia? (that's your totals, so)
That's not my totals. I didn't do the research. If you have some relevant information then share it. Spouting "trud", "irrelevant" adds nothing.
So what?? You said,
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Also Trump can do whatever as long as we have peace.
So is that true or not??
Or is the truth, your OK with Trump giving away part of Ukaine but not part of Greece?
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What info do you like? That we are not against Russia?Lol. Won't bother, we are against Russia, walk proudly up and down the stairs.
The other are hypothetical scenarios in order to extract something of Trump must not negotiate so , pat pat.
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Oh darn. But that was expected from everyone I guess.
Fakevid vaccine faces ban for all Americans in radical U-turn by Trump team
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...rump-team.html
Here, let me help so you won't bother writing. Terrorist murdered and health bomber also dictator sex offender Nazi, CryptoWoke peace wannabe and terrible dancer.
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What info do you like? That we are not against Russia?Lol. Won't bother, we are against Russia, walk proudly up and down the stairs.
The other are hypothetical scenarios in order to extract something of Trump must not negotiate so , pat pat.
That's what I thought. You can't provide any information because, you got nothing. Ok
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Oh darn. But that was expected from everyone I guess.
Fakevid vaccine faces ban for all Americans in radical U-turn by Trump team
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...rump-team.html
Here, let me help so you won't bother writing. Terrorist murdered and health bomber also dictator sex offender Nazi, CryptoWoke peace wannabe and terrible dancer.
It's no bother.
With JFK Jr. as health secretary it's not surprising that vaccine misinformation is on the rise. I would be surprised if there actually was a ban on the COVID vaccine. But I've been surprised before.
The article didn't mention anything about "fakevid vaccine", in fact I couldn't find where the word "fake" was used at all. But I did find this in the article,
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The mRNA vaccines made by Moderna and Pfizer are estimated to have saved tens of millions of lives globally, including 3million in the US.
Thanks
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Trump is now calling Zelenskyy a dictator that started the war and is repeating Russian talking points. Russian media is celebrating. What a 180 this country took. But when you give a President a "mandate" you cut him loose.
https://www.axios.com/2025/02/19/tru...ine-russia-war
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Trump is now calling Zelenskyy a dictator that started the war and is repeating Russian talking points. Russian media is celebrating. What a 180 this country took. But when you give a President a "mandate" you cut him loose.
https://www.axios.com/2025/02/19/tru...ine-russia-war
He also called himself a king as well... https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1892...imagery-021013
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This is a poll at July 2024 about what EU think of the war, the opinions are scattered so even then the EU was not giving full support and also the survey is on a bias organization aka EU but even so.
https://ecfr.eu/wp-content/uploads/2...Ukraine-v2.pdf
So EU (not Europe, EU survey) is not on a full par with Ukraine war.
Ah also Greece is one the left or right on the map list according to increase ammo or who will win the war etc. So we are last on EU support for Ukraine.
Edit: Per people not per sold out government
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But the question isn't so much why the "left" is so incestually entwined with the Deep State, but why people have been so asleep at the wheel that they permitted it to be established.
This didn't happen by accident. In light of some of the things being revealed with this whole USAID scandal, I realize that I may have been seriously wrong about a lot of things. Firstly, I no longer believe that USAID is corrupt. There are just too many reasons to believe that these controversial things they were doing were deliberate. USAID may have been in fact designed to carry out acts of espionage and information warfare against foreign nations on behalf of intelligence agencies, allies and enemies alike. The weird stuff they were doing was simply a cover, something to be used in service of plausible deniability. The real scandal here is that USAID was apparently acting against the American people as well.
As for the left being so deeply entwined with the Deep State. It's not that anyone was asleep at the wheel. I'm starting to understand that the left is simply a tool for these "deep state actors". They are a blunt instrument that can be weaponized against whoever they choose. The institutional capture under taken by the far left in the West may have been funded by these covert actors so that they be wielded more effectively against their enemies. This is what "cancel culture" is, it's weapon. It's the kind of weapon you can use when sending Delta force operators in the middle of the night to assassinate you just isn't an option. It's much cleaner to "assassinate" you by funding a smear campaign against you. That's when you see words like sexism and transphobia being thrown about recklessly. That's when you see all the blogs and news sites printing the same propaganda in unison, almost as if they are being coordinated behind the scenes. This machine is designed to bludgeon you into submission, which is what apology tours are about or they can remove you from the game, which is when you see firings, resignations etc.
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A very revealing documentations will be, (go Musk) USAID founded Internews that founder Soros organizations (mostly opensociety) to bribe channels and journalist to promote the WOKE agenda. This is know through wikileaks but opening the official documents of USAID will give us the names. We want names!
Also from what I've read USAID is possible be bribing official to push the Annan plan for Cyprus aka become a community and recognize the Turkish occupation. Hopefully we can reveal some Greek heads over there. Fingers crossed...
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Re: Post election prediction
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Originally Posted by
sapator
A very revealing documentations will be, (go Musk) USAID founded Internews that founder Soros organizations (mostly opensociety) to bribe channels and journalist to promote the WOKE agenda. This is know through wikileaks but opening the official documents of USAID will give us the names. We want names!
Also from what I've read USAID is possible be bribing official to push the Annan plan for Cyprus aka become a community and recognize the Turkish occupation. Hopefully we can reveal some Greek heads over there. Fingers crossed...
Yep! You get it! :thumb::thumb::thumb: