eiSecure is back on with us again :)
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eiSecure is back on with us again :)
uh...really? How? What? Who? :confused: :eek: :rolleyes:
Damn I forget the meeting!!!!!!!
Hehe! :p
What i miss ?
J2k can send you a transcript if you give him your e-mail :D
[email protected] .. plz ..
[email protected]
Please put for subject OCARINA in big :):):)
Anybody have did something more in the project ? So long time than I didnt see the program :) I want to see!!! :)
I didnt receive yet the email of the meeting please someone send it to me.
guess j2k went to sleep so i'll sent you the transcript daok!
Thx you stickman373 !
my email is : [email protected]
Use a title like : OCARINA -stickman373-
I will go sleep so I will check that tommorow Cya!
Ah, I have a last question, can someone told me if vbforums is slow for them ? For me it really more slow than usuall. :mad:
It's not slow here.
OK today ( this morning ) my connection is more fast i think :D
I tinkered around with those color gradients...
Here's what came out:
I wondered if anyone thought about having an mp3 (or just music-) player in our app. No mp3 search btw, since I don't think we want all major music comps behind our asses =)
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also.. I presume that we know now precisely what we want to build (as in each core module?)
if not... then I suggest we meet tonight to discuss this. Maybe a good idea to join a email group system like yahoogroup (www.egroups.com) so we can send mail to one address and let it arrive at all participants. In that way we can communicate quicker.. though at the expense that we have a lot of mail a day :D (atleast you know that we are still alive then)
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Tell me what ya think guys
I think I can do that
I already did such a thing.
I will include it into our prog as soon as we have a final main module
BTW: What about my UI?
You mean something to listen mp3...or something who gonna make sound like for exemple each time we receive a message ?
actually for normal soundevents we just use the waveout interface. but as you said, for listening mp3s and stuff.
I dont think we should include to much thing for the first version. Anyway I have to do some homework and I do not want to so :mad:
I will be back later,
Daok
Everything that can be done and is good for the community must just be in the project agenda.
We are building a product, not a test version :P
Sigh, this is gonna be a very long post, so beware ;)
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Since j2k hasn't started about this yet I think I will. It is just something that we'll trip over and land on our faces later if we dont organise ourselves.
One of the first things i'll start with is the coding method, Just for an example I saw andreas's source code of his UI and well, I was a bit shocked. I won't go into details though =) (refer to Programmers nightmare) ;)
So I prefer and I think many more do that we organise our coding methods to eachother.
Throughout the project things like
Option explicit: Option base 0 (or 1): DefStr (or DefInt) are on top.
well atleast Option explicit for sure! The first one who doesnt use this in any of his modules is gonna get a kick in the rear from me :o
Further more, use Tagnames and objectnames that are comprehendable.. things like Private sub bla() doesn't ring a bell to anyone; Only to yourself.
if its a function include its returnvar in the name.
example:
Public sub SetConnectionTimerValue(lValue as long)
see lValue (the l for long, value as its name).
Public function lReturnedValue(lValue as long) as long
same here, l for long, ReturnedValue as its function name
Further more #2,
I dont wanna see ANY! and I repeat ANY! label1, form1 or stuff like that. To quote our glorious leader Billy Boy.. "We aRe coders, Not newbies".. well he didn't actually say that but you get the point....
frm_ for form
frame_ for frame
obj_ for general object
txt_ for text block
lbl_ for label object
if you got important arrays.. name them arr_ . Etc.
Further more #3, (sigh)
Commenting your code isn't really necessary but do write yur name above it, email address, and a short summary what the module or code does.
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I feel ashamed to post this, since everyone here should already know this stuff, if not, then go back to the VB learning books :rolleyes:
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Really 2ND thing:
I cant really put it in another way so this may sound a bit harsch or whatsoever:
I want EVERYTHING documented.
I know i'm using the 'i' sentence alot but its just that if you guys dont then we get lost somewhere in the middle. Better to prevent than to cure!
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3th thingy:
These are the current modules that will be created.
They are pretty large modules on their own so they are split in chunks but those parts will be discussed private. (to give other groups not too many good ideas)
(For some that have been in the meeting yesterday, these may seem to be a bit familiar)
Graphical User Interface (Client Application)
Server Application
Web scripts
Instant Messenging Protocols
Encryption and Data Storage and Protection
Forum Configuration and Administration
Chat channels
Integrated user-friendly newsgroups
SmartSMS (or FastSMS or msg.. etc)
Mediaplayer on-board
So next meeting, these things will be nicely split and divided (just like water and bread ;) )
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4Th:
A bit more personal but also something that we need to be aware of, really.. we are a developer team, so we have to respect eachothers wishes, though I ask from everyone that they have a bit of patience with everyone.
An example of things you shouldn't do :
devsel2001: every vb6 class gets f**k*d by vb5
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j2k: Issues a language warning to devsel2001.
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As some may have the same feeling, this can get so someones nerve very very easily, though we talked it out (a bit...) - I prefer from my own opinion to have patience with eachother.
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Pfew... thats my 2 cents i guess.
I think if I go on IE will crash on me for typin' too much.
Since j2K was a bit pissed off that I quoted him in my last post (the long one) and couldn't just leave it alone. He kicked me from this project.
Well, I wish you all success with this project (yes, even j2k) and hopefully it will grow into something big.
He kicked you? Obviously he doesn't get it that every single point you made in the really long post above is crucial if you ever want this software or the site to be developed.
No I didn't. I never once said the words "You're no longer part of the project" or "You have been kicked from the project".Quote:
Originally posted by filburt1
He kicked you?
Humor me j2k...
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You left on your own accord. That decision was up to you.Quote:
Originally posted by Devion
Humor me j2k...
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on my Accord, sure; but i'm not gonna argue on a public board.
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btw Filburt: You rule :D (You atleast read the post)
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Devion
btw Filburt: You rule :D
He does have a point: do you have proof (MSN transcript, e-mail, etc.)?Quote:
Originally posted by Devion
Since j2K was a bit pissed off that I quoted him in my last post (the long one) and couldn't just leave it alone. He kicked me from this project.
Well, I wish you all success with this project (yes, even j2k) and hopefully it will grow into something big.
Devion why you leave?
Devion why you leave ?
Devion your post is so big than I dont have the courage to read all :mad:
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I dont wanna see ANY! and I repeat ANY! label1, form1 or stuff like that. To quote our glorious leader Billy Boy.. "We aRe coders, Not newbies".. well he didn't actually say that but you get the point....
Lol Devion slow down dude and smile to the life ! :D
Boo-yeah. My pet peeves. http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...ght=pet+peeves
I would have to agree with that, but sometimes, it would be useless and not much of a point.
Say on a form, there's a label that displays basically a summary of what you want the user to do. Since it doesn't interact with anything, I say leave it be. We're not going to refer to it in code, so who cares if it's called Label1 or Label6?
Usually, I only name the things that have events/referred to in code and menus/important special controls.
Just my $0.02.
Hey, we're almost caught up to the other major thread in this forum. :)
When a control has no associated events or calls to it, I always call it lblNull, picNull, imgNull, etc.Quote:
Originally posted by eiSecure
I would have to agree with that, but sometimes, it would be useless and not much of a point.
Say on a form, there's a label that displays basically a summary of what you want the user to do. Since it doesn't interact with anything, I say leave it be. We're not going to refer to it in code, so who cares if it's called Label1 or Label6?
Usually, I only name the things that have events/referred to in code and menus/important special controls.
Just my $0.02.
hmmm...I figure that to be overkill....:)
mmmuust...nnnnamme...evvvery...connntrol...
*hands shake while trying to hold back the urge* :D
...I think I could do the MP3, encryption, and the main IM.
I already have all that code at my disposal, in neatly packaged little modules waiting for copy & pasting into projects. :)
Need I stress again that the back-end server is the most critical part of the entire project. Period. The website and fancy parts of the IM client can wait until the server is in pre-beta.
Yes, but unfortunately, I don't do client/server programming.
Do you know Java? I think we should use it because it is excellent for multithreading.
yeah...servlets and jsp...but we need a free server that supports that.
...I know basic Java, so basically, i can only do basic stuff like that, like basic applets, but I don't do servlets, not even basic ones.Quote:
Originally posted by filburt1
Do you know Java? I think we should use it because it is excellent for multithreading.
If someone has broadband with a static IP (and if their ISP doesn't notice ;)) we can set up a server on their machine.
Or if by free server you mean software, Apache and Tomcat.
Yeah...I could do that, except AT&T blocks all incoming connections...:(
no...I meant a free server.Quote:
Originally posted by filburt1
Or if by free server you mean software, Apache and Tomcat.
So go find a free Athlon screamer with 2 GB of RAM in a dumpster. What's the big problem?
NO PROBLEMO SENIOR!!!!!!!!:D
Why you changed the thread name ?
It was starting to smell old.
That smelled the old Fish :D
I go sleep, Good Night, anyone will send me the meeting document please ?
Daok
Thx you stickman373 I had receive the disccusion of the meeting..now I go sleep for real :)
Sorry for butting in, but regarding the "getting money for it" idea you had (no idea if it's been solved or not!), but I think it's a bad idea making someone pay money for a clone, or something that has a free rival.