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I'd be much obliged if we could stick with wallparts for a while. Would it be a big problem to convert your BSP to cubes later?
GraphicsPath is just a GDI+ feature, nothing to worry about, just an idea really we probably won't use it in the end because it seems to be quite slow.
It is not a BSP at the moment at all. It is a BlackBox..:D..say "hail" to the BlackBox and it's mysterious memory consumption.Quote:
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It won't be a BIG change, but a couple of hours with luck. Totaly doable. Will use wallparts for now, then we can see how big we can get the map without the BlackBox bringing the computer to tears..:)
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OK, in that case I'll just shut my eyes and ears..:)
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Groovy.
Wrote a quick bit of storyline yesterday, seems suitable vague :D
Imagine you are a General on earth reading the message in a growing state of panic, one of your military installations on the outskirts of the solar system has been crippled! No further information is available and all subsequent info is unreliable.
Welcome to DoomSharp.
I've decided to remove the 3d preview from the map editor too. That's going to be too difficult to integrate into an half-formed map. I suppose I could put it in as an option in a menu, to fire up the game exe and pass in the path to the game file currently being edited.
Towards the end of the project I'd like to be able to specify a few command line parameters such as the *.dsm path, options like "-NoEnemies -NoSound -Wireframe -HiRes"..... and so on. Would be useful for final testing and debugging. That won't be for a few weeks yet though :thumb:
Bhahahha..that is BRILLIANT...BTW that also gave me a pretty good idea. You don't have to agree, but at least I think it was kind of great.
What do you say about having an intro to this game? Some heroic music, and some heroic pictures of some "doom" look alike soldiers, then the BEEP BEEP and then that note scrools over the screen (maybe with a readers voice) before the game starts.??? What do you think?
Well, at least my thought here ::DD::D..was that if we sync up tomorrow, then if you want to still work on it after I leave work tomorrow evening, thats fine, as long as you send it to me afterwards. Then you can start on this intro thingy while I can do all these changes I have been talking about from friday to saterday...up all night..:D...and then I am more or less out of the project. THen we will not clutter each others work from friday morning untill saterday at noon or something. And then you can have a go at everything you want....
What do you think? Am I egoistic? Pathetic? Unrealistic? n00b? Unintersting? Tart? Have a go at my idea please..:)
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Sounds ok to me...most of these things are not implemented anyway..so no big changes there.:)
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Funny you should mention it, go back to the very first post in this thread, I've put some updates on there and some Milestones, mentioning the things you just said :D
Great minds... :thumb:
I havent really got any artistic talent (or musical for that matter) so we'll have to find someone thats good with an art package. Maybe Mr Delves could help us with the musical side of things. He's pretty good on the ivories. I'll PM him now.
I think the intro could be implemented as a normal splash screen and we could use VS2005's built in sound support (w0oo0ot! great new feature, 2003 doesn't have this) to play some theme music or whatever.
I'm currently wondering how to change the screen resolution without resorting to the API. I think this maybe a platform dependant thing and we'l have to use api eventually. It's be really nice to be able to run fullscreen without the windows taskbar there. It'd have a nice low-res feel to it.
tres retro non? :D
Blimmey....I'll work my self half to deth from friday to saterday...be sure..:D...oohhhh it tickles in my toes...I LOVE when I have stressed deadlines..:D..just like when I made that Cowboy game in OpenGL...woohoo..:D
BTW I have a C# trippel array question...will post it in C# section..so look out for dodgy questions..:)
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Woohooo..I belive in you..:D..BTW I have a LOT of sound effects for shooting and so on for later..;).I am the assets man...belive in me..:DQuote:
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I was so wondering about this yesterday. I am so sure I have seen it done in C# before..but I can't remember where or if they used API or not...hmmm...need to find out that too..
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VisualAd has come through for us and is going to make us a theme tune! Wicked.
This game is soooo gonna PWN everything.
I can feel it...I can feel it....GROUP HUUUUUG...:D
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You any good with pointer math note? My brain is starting to melt. I posted a thread in the C# forum.
No you did not..I can't see it..:D
Are you talking about pointer arethmetrics? Not so very good...never done it in C#..but I have managed to pull it off in C++ a few times when needed..:)
AT the moment I am writing C# code to check if a point is inside a polygon in 3D...woohooo....MANY lines of code..:(
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A pointer's a pointer. Shoot me a link and I'll try. I couldn't find you thread in the C# forum.
Points inside 3D objects!!! :eek:
Sounds tricky, why do you need to know that? :)
The thread is there now. I think our web server is playing up, VBF keeps going offline.
Frustum culling, and I also thought that if we need to shoot people later on, we will need the code then anyway. So why not use the same code..:)...I have a few hard to find bugs here....grrr....going to take me a lot of time to debug this beast..:)Quote:
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Yeah, the last two days have been hopeless....hate it..:(
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All you gamers will instantly recognise these...
http://www.currybeast.com/ftp/tools/midi/doom.mid
http://www.currybeast.com/ftp/tools/midi/doom2.mid
Oh happy days they were. I want to capture this kind of sound for the game, nothing so complex but that kind of thing.
VS2005 has built in sound! i've been missing out!
great storyline guys! especially since you never specify what the enemy actually is, or why everything blew up, just like the real doom games. I have given you another star for it :bigyello:
EDITNOTE: actually as it turns out, wossname, i have given one to you recently, according to VBF :p
Yeah the built in sound is limited to a class that plays wav files, but at least it can play them asynchronously (almost certainly a wrapper for the old API functions);Quote:
Originally Posted by Phill64
*OMG I've started putting semicolons after my sentences instead of full stops. I did this at work about 12 times in a short word document, my boss asked me about it and I never even realised when I did it. I said it was a faulty copy of MS Word (well its not a lie is it :D)
Wo0o0ot! More progress :D
I have FINALLY managed to get an editable player start position built into the map files. Its just a camera object that stores the initial startup view. see the screeny...
Its a secure dialog, can be called with a single line of code and instantly returns a new camera object based on an old one you pass into it;
It can even do two at a time! that was something i never figured out how to do with the API and was planning on using directsound for it in future, i guess i won't have to with VS05 :)Quote:
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HAHAHA that's a classic! you should put that in your signature instead of the carpet thing! :lol:Quote:
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Lol, I like the carpet one better, but feel free to put it in yours though.
where do the paisley carpets fit into this?Quote:
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wØØsy:
Did you start on the input class at all? If not, I have a suggestion. Is it possible for you to make a static array with bools. And a static Enum that has simple names for the keys. Something like:
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Tell me if you didn't get it. And I can try to explain again. I think at least this is by far the simplest way to do it. And similar with the mouse. The upadte function can just update an X and an Y variable to tell how much it has moved. Then I can reach them since they are static. And it will also work exactly the same way as the camera...and that is a good thing..:)
If we can manage to pull that off today too, then we would be leet..:)
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Ehhh....looking back at all your screenies....have you ever tried to move the camera INTO the map? Or have you ALWAYS just had a negative Z? Can you please test with a positive Z as fast as you have the posibility on your copy, so I can see if it is I who have messed something up now, or if it has been like that all the time..
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Note, yes I've tried a positive Z and it crashed, but to be more precise if the camera is INSIDE the map then you will have something behind you...which is bad news and causes the game to crash. I think your BSP will fix this problem. Its perfectly ok to have the camera outside the map as long as all the wallparts are NOT behind you. I can't remember what happens if you stand to the north and look south at the map, i think its ok but I'll just check that tonight.
About your keyboard question, do you mean something like the GetKeyboardState() API function that returns an array holding all the keyboards status?
I can add that to the KeyTesterClass if you want, but it will be a byte array (i think) instead of bool, but i can put a bool accessor on it if that's any better.
Did you take a look at my KeyTester class in the codebank? It lets you test keys without neding a bool array at all. I supose with an array olding all the keyboard you can have as many keys down at a time as you like. I guess that's why you wanted it?
Tr333: If you can find me a paisley texture then it'll be in the next set of screenshots :
I think I found out what the problem is...and it does NOT look good...:(
Just look at the first picture here. It shows a screenshot from when you are inside the map. Not good, not good. Then I started thinking. And found out it is because we are not culling away stuff that is closer then the Near Plane. So I started to set the position for stuff that is closer then the Near Plane to (0,0,0). And then it looks like in picture number 2 there. As you can see much better. But still problems.....grrrr..this is so going to be a though one...I have no idea where to start...hmm..pen and paper I guess..:(
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First picture where?
****..:D...hehe..you where right...:D...grr....can you please do the rest of the app alone.:D..I am not sorthy (SP?)..:(...ok this culling method worked.Quote:
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I don't want to get an array returned. I just want it to be an array in the background so I can ask with an enumtype if a specific key is down. Then it will work like DPlay..:)..and the same way as all my games and demos are workin..:)...totaly normal thing to do..:)
No, sorry, just saw there was something there...will have a look at it later on today if I have the time...Quote:
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Forgetabout it now..:D..it is working..:D
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Ok no problem, I'll add the array thingy now.
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Sweet...I am SOOO looking forward to sync up with you tonight..and then be able to add some space partitioning code on friday to saterday...:D....we are the best..:D
BTW When did you become the leader for this project..:D
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No no no no no....we are just getting more and more troubles here you know...:(....just look here....guess who will say: "I said so"...:(
http://www.noteme.com/doomsharp/img/img044.jpg
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The roof tiles, the right-most row, the straight line on it looks a little bent.
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That was my point..;)..and the same goes for the wall with the
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nice warpy look, DoomSharp() Psychodelic edition? :)
:lol: That texture problem is what I've been telling you since page 4. :lol:
It doesn't matter at the moment. We'll burn that bridge when we come to it.
So you now put the camera anywhere without it crashing?? :)
I've updated the KeyTester class as you asked...
http://www.vbforums.com/showpost.php...47&postcount=1
It supports Key toggling too so we can have a key turn something on or turn something off! That will be very handy for turning sound / enemies on or off during debugging.
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Yeah, but it hasn't been visible like this since testing..this is just hillarious..:)
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I hope YOU do...;)...ehehheheh
Nope...it is crashing on one of your cryptic lines..so I havn't looked into it yet...might get the time tomorrow...or later on tonight..but doubt that...Quote:
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Blimmey....you are my man...:)...I am still drawing circles and lines on paper....there is SOOO incredible much math behind this...you have NOOOO idea..:)
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kinda grows on ya ;)
Got my unsafe blitting code working at last. :D
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Nan doesn't have to be division by zero. but the weird thing is that it is not in my code, but rather when I give it too you. I will try to dig into it though.
BTW that FPS is REALLY REALLY fast...I want to **** on my self..:) But why is it scewed? Are you working on that? When it is not looking like an 8 anymore, then I will kiss you and do everything you want me to do with you..:)
BTW ONE more big math Q here now, and then I think I am done with my HUGE lookuptable....:D..it is so nasty..it is so cool, it is...I mean...it HAS TO WORK..:)
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Did you look at the screeny here:
http://www.vbforums.com/attachment.p...id=40215&stc=1
its not like an 8 any more.
0xC0DE...
not too sure about the copyright on these images...
http://www.craigiestockwellcarpets.c...lliamsburg.jpg
http://karastan.com/images/Carpet_Im...64_cashmir.jpg
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Yeah, but look here...the two vertical lines are not vertical...hence scewed..arn't they?
http://www.noteme.com/doomsharp/img/img045.jpg
Yeah that perfectly fine, it is a quad after all, no triangles involved here. The alg fits the texture into the 4 point polygon wherever the points are :D It'll look soooo sexy in the game.
That framerate was on a crappy computer and it was working with 24 bit pixels, we are working in 32bit premultiplied alpha pixels which are faster to blit anyway plus they are native ints, so i can use a single int pointer to transfer the pixels. Its going to burn rubber when we get it into the game. How exciting is this???.
Note, are we going to be able to have any occlusion culling later on, or is that already part of the BSP? (I still find BSP's hard to understand, I only just get the basic idea).
That skewing will happen anyway if our eyelevel is high and we are looking slightly downwards like this...
that image looks like you've "missed" pixels, due to rounding i guess?
BSP is out....It is BlackBox...I keep telling you..;)...you know what gets in, and you can see what gets out,....but you have NOOO idea how I do it..;)...and hopefully it will be ready on saterday before noon. That is my goal. So not today..:(...To much math left..:(
But about your drawing. Is the four points defined by you now? So you can actualy make it a perfect trapesium or what it is called? BTW care to send it to me, so we can really speed test it?
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yeah, I guess that too, but first of all, it is possible to fix. Second, I don't think you will se it, in game if the "skybox" has more or les the same colour as the walls or at least a dark color since we have grey walls.
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Hehe..yeah, but the man is not a sky scraper though..:D
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the code is in post #583 ^^^.
Yeah you just pass in an array of 4 points plus the source and destination bitmaps and the rest is magic. DON'T use coordinates outside the destination bitmap area (no negatives and nothing greater than width or height) or it piss RAM all over the place.
The frame rate doesn't incluse the Device.Present() call so it fairly accurate. I don't think there are any restraints on the positions of the pixels so it will end up twisting, stretching, inverting or flipping the image any way you like.
OK saturday but NO LATER.
I told you I will bring my pillow to work tomorrow and then stay up all night untill it is finished..;)...I am going to this party later on on saterday, so if I am tired and so on I guess I will just get drunk faster..:)
BTW coords outside the window can be a problem...we have to work on that one..
*runs to test code*
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And the verdict is...
Debug mode:
92-102FPS
Retail mode:
102-112FPS
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Holy expletives batman!!!
Uhhhh which code are you testing there, yours or my blitting code?
Yours of course...I don't have any Blt code..:)..
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I though t you might be talking about your normal code while testing your Blax0rBox0r :D
Paisley PWNS j00 noobz...
No no no no...the BlaxBox won't improve framerate..remember the number of walls you have on the test map is nearly equal to the MAX walls you can have in a scene at any time...so I can't trim it much more then that..but what I can do is to make a map 3 times it size render nearly just as fast as this one...;)Quote:
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BTW what do you think of my new dynamic signature...:)...it is just two test images now..I can't draw for ****...but they are changing every time you load a page with me on it..:)..and it has different text too. For now, only two different..but after a while..many..
DoomSharp();
- Will make you cry like a baby.
:D and its not even remotely optimised yet. This could be the answer to all our problems mate. We'll be billionaires!!! (In reps, if not in $$$).Quote:
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*thinking*
- Store textures as integer arrays instead, images in file get converted to array when the renderer loads them.
- Lock the destination bitmap once for the entire frame, locking/unlocking takes a millisecond or so.
- optimise the Trajectory class, its a bit flabby.
- 32bppPARGB pixels are much more efficiently handled by the CLR than 24BPP.
- ALL textures MUST be 32bppPARGB, this can be done upon game_load by the renderer. All original textures are to be freed up immediately after they have been converted to integer arrays to save RAM.
- cache all cachable variables in BlitQuad() and change the args to pointers where possible.
I know..I have sooo fate in you...I am not even sure what to say...I sooo love you...:D
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