My God!! The speed at which this thread is growing, it will take over the post race in no time!
Every time I post a reply, I find at least 5 posts inserted between the post I replied to and my reply. I must use quotes more often.
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My God!! The speed at which this thread is growing, it will take over the post race in no time!
Every time I post a reply, I find at least 5 posts inserted between the post I replied to and my reply. I must use quotes more often.
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Indian people are slow
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Ok your time to do some slow reading, what we are saying is that you should blame Muslims as a whole because of there religion, it is the minority that is clouding your judgement, yeah it could be christians it could be muslims it could be joe bloggs, we are saying don't blame everyone because of the actions of the few.Quote:
Originally posted by Dilenger4
Koven read slowly now. ok
your telling me that it cant be an Islamic group becaue of what the Qur'an states. That is like saying that a christian couldnt possibly commit an act against another because the bible states otherwise.
I am a New Yorker and this is not only an attack on America but on the 10 million New Yorkers that live there and the millions that are away. My tears fall as i see the WTC go down after i work there for 3 years. That historic area holds many memories for me and i cannot believe that it is all gone. On another note i know that our president does not have the best of reviews, but do not forget that he is a republican. They do not take this sh*t lightly. I do not think that the jewish people mourn as the palestininians celebrate our volunerbal moment. Yes once again us Americans have left our gaurd down, but will not stand not to live safe in this country. As arragant and SOB's that many people say Americans are, many still want to be like us. If they can not be then take us out of the equation. Well i am a proud American and i can simply say "even if offend anyone" We will preservere and get through our crisis and if the islamic people ( of which i have worked with and are very smart people) can not live in peace because we go overseas and try to help them. Then the U.S. should just eliminate the offending side. That is my 2 cents. And one last thing. May GOD help America in it's crisis. And for sure someone will pay for this.
yea, lets hope bush doesnt do anything bush-likeQuote:
lets all hope this doesnt turn into a war
ok, shut the f**k up!Quote:
Islam will burn in the flames of hell.........
First off what does the Qu'ran have to do with it? If timothy mcveigh was a christian would you say well it says in the bible
no to kill others. SO it couldnt be him. That is the stupidest thing i have heard so this site so far.
i am a muslim, i have read the Qu'ran, it says nothing about killing people in jihad.
BUT
people can interpret it in any way that they want to, osama bin laden is a sick man, and yes he hates the US, and yes his hatred is justified.
what is NOT justified is massacering thousands of innocent people who had nothing to do with the oppression that has given bin laden this hatred
and anyway, why the f**k r you sayin islam should burn in hell?? what are you, a retard?? no-one know who did this, you have jumped on the "oh look, theres been a terrorist attack it must be the muslims" bandwagon.
now please, shut up
yes, we doQuote:
unlike christians (i am sorry if this is not you) muslims follow their holy book very strictly
First figures of 1500 walking-wounded, No numbers on deaths at present.
Simon/Mike, your queries about evacuations in London; Canary Wharf was evacuated, the squre mile wasn't. most people left sq mile about 430-5 ish. many trains couldn't run due to "staff shortage" :rolleyes:
Also, I haven't analysed the islamic slant of this thread fully, but have any of you considered that this may be domestic terrorism?
here here!! :)Quote:
and anyway, why the f**k r you sayin islam should burn in hell?? what are you, a retard?? no-one know who did this, you have jumped on the "oh look, theres been a terrorist attack it must be the muslims" bandwagon.
I must say that i feel sorry for all the people who died in this terrorist act. But this had to happen some day. Everybody in Eastern europe, asia, africa hates America. I hate america very very much. The must get involved everywhere, a world cop, and because of that people suffer now. The bombed Yugoslavia in 1999 because of the human rights of Albanians, Shiptars. America now supports the terrosrist albanians in my country. They were defeated and should have gone to court but the american military rescued them. THEY RESCUED TERRORIST ALBANIANS. Osama bin laden was hiding in Albania and they support albanian terrorists. I will repeat thet this is a terible terrorist act but america has also killed a lot of innocent cicilians. My friend was killed in the american bombing of YOGOSLAVIA. AMERICA PROTECTED ALBANIAN TERRORISTS.
The news just said that Buildings 4 and 5 are now in danger of collapsing. {or as excalibur says later, 5 and 7}
we should stop blaming the muslims as it could be any organisation, the IRA, and other organisations that i can't think off, it could even be a an American group trying to pass the blame onto other people to cause chaos like this
ghost are you arab?
if so
here have a "bebsi"
if not, have a "pepsi" and calm down
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I am sure everybody here shares your feelings. Whoever is guilty, I personally feel they should be hung to death in a square, and people should kill them by throwing stones at them, and so many other painful ways of doing it.Quote:
I am a New Yorker and this is not only an attack on America but on the 10 million New Yorkers that live there and the millions that are away. My tears fall as i see the WTC go down after i work there for 3 years. That historic area holds many memories for me and i cannot believe that it is all gone. On another note i know that our president does not have the best of reviews, but do not forget that he is a republican. They do not take this sh*t lightly. I do not think that the jewish people mourn as the palestininians celebrate our volunerbal moment. Yes once again us Americans have left our gaurd down, but will not stand not to live safe in this country. As arragant and SOB's that many people say Americans are, many still want to be like us. If they can not be then take us out of the equation. Well i am a proud American and i can simply say "even if offend anyone" We will preservere and get through our crisis and if the islamic people ( of which i have worked with and are very smart people) can not live in peace because we go overseas and try to help them. Then the U.S. should just eliminate the offending side. That is my 2 cents. And one last thing. May GOD help America in it's crisis. And for sure someone will pay for this.
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Nobody knows yet who attacked on US but if it will be muslims then they are paying back.
I don't know what will happen but WW3 is also too far for now. And also none of the muslim coutries attacked on US.
indeed, its like OKC bombing, everyone immediatly said "its the muslims, its the muslims! get them get them!!"Quote:
Originally posted by Gaffer
Also, I haven't analysed the islamic slant of this thread fully, but have any of you considered that this may be domestic terrorism?
but look who it was....
and american citezen
now, we all know there are many deranged wierdos in the USA, but its unlikley that a few of them could have pulled it off, but there could be someone somewhere in the USA that would do this, so i dont know why dilenger was blaming islam straight away without considering any other options
i have heard on the news that hospitals in New York are low on blood supplies, this just goes from bad to worse, i am very saddened and upset
It turns out that Buildings 5 and 7 are now in danger of collapsing.
Sorry... I fogot to talk about the WTC. I am feeling sorry for it but not for the bombing that took place on Pentagon:D
Okay, who is this aimed at, or do you constantly address your arguments to people who are not present???Quote:
Originally posted by Dilenger4
did i say that? did you hear me say that someone in this forum sais that? No.... I am renforcing the fact that Islam feels that need to attack women and chlidren and the united states does otherwise. that it. plain and simple. I did not say someone was quoted as saying that.
And as an aside you do not shy away from killing women and children. When America bombed Libya they killed Ghaddaffi's grand-daughter. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Dilenger4
Why is it ok for american women and children to be killed
but when we bomb others we shy away from killing women and children in other countries?
Dilenger, you're acidic hatred is very sad. Unfortunately you are the same as the people who committed these attrocities. You cannot see that retaliation at a group of people is wrong wrong wrong.
Hell, you've already decided who the perpetrators where, without any evidence or trial. You must be so much smarter than the rest of us....
First off i didnt say that it says in the Qu'ran to kill people. I am saying that since it doesnt say to go out and kill people it doesnt mean they are innocent. And while some of you might adhere to the words of the Qu'ran rather strictly. Not all of you do.Quote:
ok, shut the f**k up!
i am a muslim, i have read the Qu'ran, it says nothing about killing people in jihad.
And there is no band wagon to be jumped on. It common knowledge that the united states is a target and has been for some time.
Yes, US is the target for what it has done to other muslim countries!Quote:
Originally posted by Dilenger4
And there is no band wagon to be jumped on. It common knowledge that the united states is a target and has been for some time.
great quote.Quote:
Originally posted by jjortiz
I am a New Yorker and this is not only an attack on America but on the 10 million New Yorkers that live there and the millions that are away. My tears fall as i see the WTC go down after i work there for 3 years. That historic area holds many memories for me and i cannot believe that it is all gone. On another note i know that our president does not have the best of reviews, but do not forget that he is a republican. They do not take this sh*t lightly. I do not think that the jewish people mourn as the palestininians celebrate our volunerbal moment. Yes once again us Americans have left our gaurd down, but will not stand not to live safe in this country. As arragant and SOB's that many people say Americans are, many still want to be like us. If they can not be then take us out of the equation. Well i am a proud American and i can simply say "even if offend anyone" We will preservere and get through our crisis and if the islamic people ( of which i have worked with and are very smart people) can not live in peace because we go overseas and try to help them. Then the U.S. should just eliminate the offending side. That is my 2 cents. And one last thing. May GOD help America in it's crisis. And for sure someone will pay for this.
Second, what is in building 5 and 7
Kovan, I don't mean any offense and I don't take anything away from you or your religion and I don't blame anybody (yet) over this as I don't have proof. but you say Islamic can't/shouldn't do this becaue of the beliefs of the religion, but not everyone believes your view of your religion or any other religion in that fact. so they could be islamic.
like I said, not taking anything away from you or your religion, just that not everbody believes the way of the book, in any religion. they can say they are but being and believing are 2 different things.
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Dilenger, you're acidic hatred is very sad. Unfortunately you are the same as the people who committed these attrocities. You cannot see that retaliation at a group of people is wrong wrong wrong.
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ok then what do you purpose that we do? Tell me. It seems to me that if it were up to you there would be no direct retaliation.
here you go read thisQuote:
Originally posted by scoutt
Kovan, I don't mean any offense and I don't take anything away from you or your religion and I don't blame anybody (yet) over this as I don't have proof. but you say Islamic can't/shouldn't do this becaue of the beliefs of the religion, but not everyone believes your view of your religion or any other religion in that fact. so they could be islamic.
like I said, not taking anything away from you or your religion, just that not everbody believes the way of the book, in any religion. they can say they are but being and believing are 2 different things.
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Originally posted by Dilenger4
Koven read slowly now. ok
your telling me that it cant be an Islamic group becaue of what the Qur'an states. That is like saying that a christian couldnt possibly commit an act against another because the bible states otherwise.
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Ok your time to do some slow reading, what we are saying is that you should blame Muslims as a whole because of there religion, it is the minority that is clouding your judgement, yeah it could be christians it could be muslims it could be joe bloggs, we are saying don't blame everyone because of the actions of the few.
no DOUBT that it MIGHT be "muslims"Quote:
Originally posted by scoutt
Kovan, I don't mean any offense and I don't take anything away from you or your religion and I don't blame anybody (yet) over this as I don't have proof. but you say Islamic can't/shouldn't do this becaue of the beliefs of the religion, but not everyone believes your view of your religion or any other religion in that fact. so they could be islamic.
like I said, not taking anything away from you or your religion, just that not everbody believes the way of the book, in any religion. they can say they are but being and believing are 2 different things.
but to label that on islam is not really fair
its like saying hitler did all thos horrific acts in the name of christianity
is that fair?
no
these people, who ever they are might have other motives then to show Islam
it could even be they want to tear down Islam
neverless, my religion, and me
are againts this
killing innocent people is just an act of those who have absolutely no minds
They're showing on TV palestinians singing, dancing on the streets and giving out candies to the kids.
They're simply HAPPY with what happened. :o
I feel sorry for these people. :(
I don't think we should retaliate as that would prove we are no bette than all the rest of them. what we need to do is take care of it in a way that makes a point and we stand our ground and won't let this happen anymore. make point that says look everybody (terrorist) that we won't put up with it.Quote:
Originally posted by Dilenger4
ok then what do you purpose that we do? Tell me. It seems to me that if it were up to you there would be no direct retaliation.
no matter what one does
there will ALWAYS be wackos
i know that, but your saying that other people are saying that, i am explaining to you, no one is saying that it cant be muslims, they are saying that it could have been muslims, BUT the Qu'ran does not encourage it, but unfortunatly some people interpret it differentlyQuote:
Originally posted by Dilenger4
First off i didnt say that it says in the Qu'ran to kill people. I am saying that since it doesnt say to go out and kill people it doesnt mean they are innocent. And while some of you might adhere to the words of the Qu'ran rather strictly. Not all of you do.
And there is no band wagon to be jumped on. It common knowledge that the united states is a target and has been for some time.
and yes there is a bandwagon, and abdul is right also
the USA practically started the gulf war, but when they realised their precious oil was in danger, in they came to save the day!!
the same in the middle east, they supplied serbs with weapons so they could look good offering aid to bosnians and coming in to stop the war
the USA needed to be taight a lesson, they needed to be taught
but what happened at WTC was a horrific act of barbaric violence that has done nothing but anger the USA
but the pentagon attack was a more of a justified retaliation (if you can call that justified) because it was a goverment building
I agree we, can't blame it on religion only blame it on the poor person that thought all this up. but it is funny is that the tv can't stop talking about the muslims and islamics. I don't blame the religion only the people that did it, whatever religion they are.Quote:
Originally posted by zmerlinz
here you go read this
now they are saying that the plane that went down in pensilvania that they might have found the blox box for that plane and it might explain a few things.
I also feel sorry when I think that thousands of people are killed by those crashes but when I think about the thousands of people killed in Palestine, Kashmir, and other muslim states, I also feel happy because US is responsible for these crashes itself:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Sc0rp
They're showing on TV palestinians singing, dancing on the streets and giving out candies to the kids.
They're simply HAPPY with what happened. :o
I feel sorry for these people. :(
Another building bites the dust :(
i heard on the bbc news that the black boxes can't stand high temperatures for long periods of time, so the planes that hit the WTC wont have recoverab;e black boxes, so hopefully the others will shed some light on the situationQuote:
Originally posted by scoutt
I agree we, can't blame it on religion only blame it on the poor person that thought all this up. but it is funny is that the tv can't stop talking about the muslims and islamics. I don't blame the religion only the people that did it, whatever religion they are.
now they are saying that the plane that went down in pensilvania that they might have found the blox box for that plane and it might explain a few things.
So what does that mean?Quote:
, I also feel happy because US is responsible for these crashes itself
i think the pittsburgh crash was an another plane attack gone wrong, i wonder what their intended target was??
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Originally posted by kovan
no DOUBT that it MIGHT be "muslims"
but to label that on islam is not really fair
its like saying hitler did all thos horrific acts in the name of christianity
is that fair?
no
these people, who ever they are might have other motives then to show Islam
it could even be they want to tear down Islam
neverless, my religion, and me are againts this killing innocent people is just an act of those who have absolutely no minds
Why does it seem that way? I am all for retaliation... once we know who is responsible. And then the retaliation should be against those people and only those people. If that means getting the people responsible, cutting off their balls and roasting them over a slow flame, thats fine by me. But I do not condone knee-jerk retaliation.Quote:
Originally posted by Dilenger4
ok then what do you purpose that we do? Tell me. It seems to me that if it were up to you there would be no direct retaliation.
Anyway, I'm off to the pub.
SD
HEY DILENGER!!
YOU WANT A REASON FOR THIS???
IF INDEED IT WAS ISLAMIC MILITANTS, (while WTC was wrong) READ MY SIGNATURE
THE USA HAS SOWN SEEDS OF HATRED IN THESE COUNTRIES AND THEY HAVE NOW RETALIATED, UNFORTUNATLEY THEY CHOSE A TARGET WHICH HAS KILLED THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, THE PENTAGON ATTACK WAS MORE JUSTIFIED (but still wrong)
Yeah :(Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
Another building bites the dust :(
:):D :DQuote:
Originally posted by thinktank
Loud applause interspersed by whistle sounds. :p