Windows 95 No Copy Paste

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THANKS

Have a Problem which could do with some advice on



Have a Dell Laptop, windows 95



Everything is working, Apart from the copy and paste function



Ive tried reinstalling over the top windows 95, that didn’t help



I cant format and reinstall as need the software which is installed graphicsPro Designer



Copy and paste wont work anywhere desktop, word, explorer etc



Do you know the service or related dll`s which make the clipboard work on windows 95



Have done many searches on internet but haven’t helped also the Microsoft website did help either



Any help on the matter would be appreciated

I used Win95 for several years and never had a issue with Copy and Paste.

Are the menu options disabled? Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V doesn't do anything?

The clipboard may be corrupted, or disabled. When you copy something it copys it to the Clipboard so that you can paste it later. check to see that the Clipboard service is enabled. go to START , RUN, Type Services.msc. Look for clipboard and make sure its automatic, and enabled, and started. If it is then we will try something else....

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Also try this

Download GetOpenClipboardWindow.zip from here:
hxxp://windowsxp.mvps.org/temp/GetOpenClipboardWindow.zip

Unzip and run the tool. Post back what it reports. For best results, run
this utility during the time you encounter the Copy<=>Paste problem.

it's been a while, but i don't think win95 has services.msc.

Go to add/remove programs and see if you have clipbook viewer installed. This might fix it.

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Originally Posted by Lord Orwell

it's been a while, but i don't think win95 has services.msc.

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yeah it's been a while for me to :)

yes we can check that thru add/remove programs as well like you suggested...

The fastest way to check if the clipboard is working or not is to download the file from the link and run it... the only thing that i am unsure is that will it run on win 95?

ok the clipboard viewer is installed

on most applications the copy and paste is greyed out

the services doesnt work on windows 95

however i did open one program called winlog on the PC

it did allow me to copy and i seen in the clipboard viewer

cud paste that to paint

however i cudnt copy again from paint

when i copy anything from word, it just says there isnt enough memory

however have looked and theres 128mb installed

any ideas, cant reinstall as if go over same fault and cant format as have programs i dont want to lose and havent got the install for

any ideas wud be aprrieated cheers

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Originally Posted by koolsid

yeah it's been a while for me to :)

yes we can check that thru add/remove programs as well like you suggested...

The fastest way to check if the clipboard is working or not is to download the file from the link and run it... the only thing that i am unsure is that will it run on win 95?

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WILL TRY THE DOWNLOAD

GET OPEN CLIPBOARD

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Originally Posted by Robbo

WILL TRY THE DOWNLOAD

GET OPEN CLIPBOARD

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SUCESSFULLY OPENED AND CLOSED THE CLIPBOARD. DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY PROBLEMS

however in explorer i try to copy a file then paste but it wont do that either

everything else works fine on the laptop

only way i can copy files is go into dos and copy *.* D:\

wont even drag and drop

any ideas

or the dlls which control this?

what is the internet explorer version that you have? did you update it recently?

5.0 i believe is the latest he can use. possibly 5.5

yeah i read something about internet explorer

when i open IE it says 3.0

wud it help if i installed Ie5.5

however can i download in zip file as work blocks *.exe

also bet its over 10mb?

will see if can download if anyone knows where from, cheers

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wud it help if i installed Ie5.5

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I feel it will. Try installing the lastest version

Check the msdn for a download...

Does your Ctrl key work?


(Hey, someone had to ask it)

i never even thought about the keyboard shortcuts. I was considering the right-click menus

I just realized that I hadn't thought of the right click menu myself. We make a complementary team. :D

Lol!

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Originally Posted by mendhak

Does your Ctrl key work?


(Hey, someone had to ask it)

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LOL

yeah have used right click on mouse to copy

but the paste is greyed out

cud it have anything to do with group polocy setup in windows

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Originally Posted by Robbo

I cant format and reinstall as need the software which is installed graphicsPro Designer

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Surely this program isn't holding you back from upgrading from Win95 to XP/Vista? :confused:

There would have to be other software that can do what graphicsPro Designer does 100 times better now as well ;)

Does Windows 95 have updates?

Why not just try update.microsoft.com

killerdragon, windowsupdate doesnt work on the older OSes. they have a 5 year product life with another 5 years support cycle. After that, you're screwed.

I don't understand why it wouldn't work, afaik Microsoft has stoped providing NEW updates. There would be no good reason to pull old updates.

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Originally Posted by Robbo

cud it have anything to do with group polocy setup in windows

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This is the only thing that makes any sense, although why copy/paste should be removed by the group policy admin is anyone's guess.

Do you have a way to check these policies?

Is GP even in Windows 95?
I thought GP wasn't introduced until Windows NT [Insert some version], made popular through Win2K and XP

that is correct. 95 doesn't have GP, and it doesn't work with automatic updates. that was introduced with win 98. They eventually started releasing patches that worked with 95 on the site, but now if you go to the website with any microsoft OS that precedes 2000 (although i havent' tested ME) it tells you that it's not supported on that website and to get your updates from download central. Also, 2000 no longer includes usability updates and you can only download critical updates.

hi thanks for your input on this

i cant update operating sytem as this then becomes an I.T issue and will probably have to wait months for ti to be updated

as the the graphics pro probably will work if upgrade however am stuck with

cant reinstall have tried that, cud delete drive and install a fresh but lose the graphics pro and dont know where install disks are

laptop works fine just apart from copy and pasting

IT said had a looked at group polocy but with it being windows 95 i dont think it has that, like you said

any ideas, do u think installing ie 5.5 would help?

HI GUYS

ok i installed internet explorer 5.5 on windows 95

guess what

the copy and paste still doesnt work

any other ideas????

PLease help, everything else works ok with laptop appart from this basic windows function

Office, GPD, etc etc

jsut the paste, thanks in advance

Group Policies were available on Win95....I distinctly remember them and remember using PolEdit to manage and manipulate them.

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Originally Posted by Hack

Group Policies were available on Win95....I distinctly remember them and remember using PolEdit to manage and manipulate them.

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u mean run from the start run - poledit

sorry that doesnt work

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Originally Posted by Hack

Group Policies were available on Win95....I distinctly remember them and remember using PolEdit to manage and manipulate them.

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You are right! See link.

Better question is can Win95/98 be bound to a AD domain and have that managed by AD?:afrog:

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Originally Posted by k1ll3rdr4g0n

You are right! See link.

Better question is can Win95/98 be bound to a AD domain and have that managed by AD?:afrog:

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i cant download *.exe at work

blocked via mail marchal

any ideas how to get working

simply only the copy paste everything else is ok, even got the printers working for GPD, didnt have drivers for them either

what is strange

if i boot up in safe mode

the copy and paste works

i think it must be a driver somewhere which is conflickting

or somethin just dont know what

any ideas

anything in the registry which cud stop from working?

still need help on this

have tried the different things but still no copy paste

any other ideas

thanks in advance

back in tomoz at 9am

am back in now

Is this a personal laptop or a company laptop?

its a company laptop

if i cud just format and start again i wud

i even had to manually set the printer port so printed correctly

i cant use usb on it LOL its windows 95

just has software on thats very old and havent got the installation disk for

have got that working , just is bit difficult working when u cant copy and paste stuff

thanks in advance

If its just software you need to run, what you could do is run Windows 95 in a VM (hell dosbox might even work).

windows 95 has usb support. It's an optional item on the install cd unless you have the very first release of it. It's labeled prominently on the cd it supports USB.

ok the installation files are on the hard disk can boot from dos and install from there however this isnt the issue

nor is the usb, ive found a floppy drive so can swap files the old fashioned way

anyway back to the problem no copy and paste

everythin else works with laptop

i can even boot in safe mode then the copy and paste work cud it have anything to do with the video drivers as i set to 1280x1080 screnn size as screen wasnt full size otherwise

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Originally Posted by Robbo

its a company laptop

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Then I have two questions:

Why are you doing all of this? Take it to your hardware support people and let them figure it out.

Why, on a company laptop, in 2008, are you running Windows 95? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Hack

Then I have two questions:

Why are you doing all of this? Take it to your hardware support people and let them figure it out.

Why, on a company laptop, in 2008, are you running Windows 95? :confused:

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ok well firstly IT havent a Clue they thought the installing IE5.5 wud have solved

the laptop is an old pentium 2 400mhz has windows 95 as the software which is installed we haven got the installation files and need for a special type of label printer

go everything else working the printers and it works fine

is just the copy and paste

IT dont have a copy of WINDOWS 98 and cant upgrade with any version as its a company laptop and cant put dodgy software on there

not sure it wud work if i upgraded to windows 2000

so seems stuck with it working just this copy and paste issue

Really, the laptop isn't worth any more time than you've spent on it.

I work at the local hardware store as mechanic and in cases like these we look at it for 15 minutes, maybe do a reinstall and otherwise just discard it and advise our clients to buy a new one.

Win95 shouldn't be used anymore.
PC's that are built for Win95 should be thrown away.

any one

help

windows 95

copy and paste not working, havent a clue why

does work in safe mode so must be some drivers or something

anyone know where to look in registry or files dll i can check cheers

thanks in advance

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Originally Posted by TheBigB

Really, the laptop isn't worth any more time than you've spent on it.

I work at the local hardware store as mechanic and in cases like these we look at it for 15 minutes, maybe do a reinstall and otherwise just discard it and advise our clients to buy a new one.

Win95 shouldn't be used anymore.
PC's that are built for Win95 should be thrown away.

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hi yeah unfortuanly we havent got the software otherwise i wud

like i say it works

just copy and paste

cant throw away or will have nothing?

can print labels just this ignoyin problem

cud it be somethin to do with memory

if i change config.sys or anything

putting in DOS UMB or something

Ok

Now I am thinking from a different perspective...

1) Which antivirus do you have?
2) If you have an antivirus, then get the latest definitions and then scan the laptop in safemode.

See if this helps...

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Originally Posted by koolsid

Ok

Now I am thinking from a different perspective...

1) Which antivirus do you have?
2) If you have an antivirus, then get the latest definitions and then scan the laptop in safemode.

See if this helps...

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the virus checker is sophos

its not connected to the network but is IT polocy to have on there

i did try that to make sure however i scanned normally

but not in safe mode

wud u suggest i do in safe mode, or do u think the scan if clear should be ok

hasnt access to internet or anything so wud be surpprised if virus

but cud it be the virus checker, but not sure how to disable

It is just a hunch but it might(???) help if you scan in the safe mode. Also make sure that your Virus definitions are up to date...

will put in safe mode

do a virus check

do a scan disk

defrag

see what happens

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will put in safe mode

do a virus check
see what happens

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Not sure how defrag and scandisk will help you...

just thought it may help

have done the virus scan too found nothin

ok still doesnt work

have uninstalled the virus checker

and still doesnt work

any other ideas

anything logical i will try

windows 95 no paste function

check your startup items and post the list here.

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Originally Posted by Lord Orwell

check your startup items and post the list here.

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well not virus checker now

in start up just office startup

if you let me know i will try out cheers

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Originally Posted by Lord Orwell

check your startup items and post the list here.

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how do i get list of start up items then?

if you have msconfig.exe on your system, you can run that. If not, search for a free program called "startup".

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Originally Posted by Lord Orwell

if you have msconfig.exe on your system, you can run that. If not, search for a free program called "startup".

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nar its windows 95 its not on

will have a look but if an exe i wont be able to download it

wudnt mind paste works ok in safe mode LOL

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Originally Posted by Lord Orwell

if you have msconfig.exe on your system, you can run that. If not, search for a free program called "startup".

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cheers for that am sure that will come in handy on another PC i have

anyway run it

and in startup

theres only the office prog?

i am not referring to the startup folder. I am aware the shortcut bar is usually in there. There's a workaround for not having the program. There are numerous registry keys you can edit/view with regedit.
[code]
#
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce registry key
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce registry key

# RunServices subkey : loads immediately after RunServicesOnce and before user logon.

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices registry key

# Run subkey : The Run subkey in HKLM runs immediately before the Run subkey in HKCU.

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key

# RunOnce subkey : primarily used by Setup programs. The HKLM subkey version of RunOnce runs programs immediately after logon and before other registry Run entries. The HKCU subkey version of RunOnce runs programs after Run subkeys and after the Startup folder.

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce registry key XP also has RunOnceEx:
* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx registry key

# RunOnce\Setup subkey : specifies programs to run after the user logs on

# Explorer\Run subkey :

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run registry key

# Userinit subkey : there is an entry for userinit.exe but subkey can accept multiple comma- separated values. Can't find where program starting? Look here.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Userinit registry key
# load subkey :
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows\load registry key

# All Users Startup folder : very common place to find autostart programs for whoever logs on
Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup folder

# Startup folder : the most common location for programs to automatically boot from
Documents and Settings\user\Start Menu\Programs\Startup folder If you migrated from NT, the path is Profiles\user\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
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that's a lot to look through, but the two main keys are these:
* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key
The offending startup program is almost always in one of those two keys.

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Originally Posted by Lord Orwell

i am not referring to the startup folder. I am aware the shortcut bar is usually in there. There's a workaround for not having the program. There are numerous registry keys you can edit/view with regedit.
[code]
#
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce registry key
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce registry key

# RunServices subkey : loads immediately after RunServicesOnce and before user logon.

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices registry key

# Run subkey : The Run subkey in HKLM runs immediately before the Run subkey in HKCU.

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key

# RunOnce subkey : primarily used by Setup programs. The HKLM subkey version of RunOnce runs programs immediately after logon and before other registry Run entries. The HKCU subkey version of RunOnce runs programs after Run subkeys and after the Startup folder.

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce registry key XP also has RunOnceEx:
* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx registry key

# RunOnce\Setup subkey : specifies programs to run after the user logs on

# Explorer\Run subkey :

* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run registry key

# Userinit subkey : there is an entry for userinit.exe but subkey can accept multiple comma- separated values. Can't find where program starting? Look here.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Userinit registry key
# load subkey :
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows\load registry key

# All Users Startup folder : very common place to find autostart programs for whoever logs on
Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup folder

# Startup folder : the most common location for programs to automatically boot from
Documents and Settings\user\Start Menu\Programs\Startup folder If you migrated from NT, the path is Profiles\user\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

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that's a lot to look through, but the two main keys are these:
* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key
* HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key
The offending startup program is almost always in one of those two keys.[/QUOTE]


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

theres just 3 asminstboot which think is an it thing C:\tngsd\bin\asminstw,exe /bg boot

RNBOstart C:\windows\system\RNBOSENT\SENTSTRT.EXE

and SDTrigger C:\tngsd\bin\strtrig.exe

theres a few bits in HKLM/Run like system tray and browser check

and thats about it

browser check?!? Disable that.
You can disable one key at a time by killing the file extension or some such. Make sure you remember the old one. Then reboot and try copy/paste with each one.