Is there still Visual J++

Is Visual J++ still in use? Last time i heard, my school was dropping J++ from their course because MicroCrap was being sued for ripping Sun off.

Java + MS = catfight. MS tried to make Java more Windows-proprietary: a big no-no considering the nature of Java.

yes, visual j++

So i would take it that J++ is still in use and there is still support for it.

Why not just use JBuilder? It's free.

Who makes that Borland?

Yes. http://www.borland.com/jbuilder

There is a free version and other versions. The free version requires that you create an account there. But I haven't gotten a significant amount of spam from them.

But what i dont understand is. Is the API the same as Sun's and
if it is what is the purpose of Sun having their own IDE (Forte)
if you can just use JBuilder or somthing else. To me it seems to defeat the purpose of Sun trying to have people use there own IDE.

Sun doesn't care what IDE you use. And you can configure JBuilder to use whatever JDK you want.

So then sun just licences there API to who ever for a cost.
Would that be correct to say?

Maybe, but you can get the JDK for free. But they might charge for licenses for large commercial products.

I dont care what they say about you. Your ok Filbert. :p

I don't think Sun charges for the use of Java. That would defeat the purpose of making it a standard.

Why do you want to use J++?

I dont. Someone in the Java forum had a question and they were
using an edit box or somthing and i said that i wasnt to familiar
with an edit box in Java. He was using J++. So i just wanted to know if there is still support for J++. :D