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I am trying to figure out if I have what it takes to get VB6 running under my Windows 10. Up until now I have VB6 running on Windows 98. I am retired but want to keep two basic programs going. In addition to VS6Installer, what additional resources do I need to install VB6 on Windows 10? I currently have three CDs:
1 Visual Basic 6.0 Professional Edition
2 msdn Library - Visual Studio 6.0
3 Visual Studio 6.0 - Service Pack 5
Is this sufficient?
do a search in this forum, there are several threads on how to install vb6 on W10
there are a few gotchas to make it work correctly, best not to just stick the cd in
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Originally Posted by StanH
Great.
You will still need service pack 6 and Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0 Service Pack 6 Cumulative Update.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...s.aspx?id=7030
That's the notorious "rollup" they had to push out something like 7 different times. Each one broke a lot of controls with various "off by one" errors.
I don't think anybody survived installing it. The "security issues" were related to user-created OCXs deployed in IE web pages, which nobody does any more anyway.
To second what westconn1 says---in your search on this forum, add "Elroy". He's a user who has sort of compiled a good guide. Other than downloading SP6, it seems you have all you need.
I would just go with Service Pack 6 and not bother with the rollup. Been using it with SP6 for years now and no problems.
What didn't I understand about cumulative updates? For me, I never had any problems ...Quote:
Originally Posted by dilettante
Many complex controls have broken collections within them. Some Winsock control properties return truncated values. MsComm controls lost data.
It is hard to remember the many things that were broken by those rollup package attempts.
What version (year and month) of ' msdn Library - Visual Studio 6.0' do you have ?Quote:
Originally Posted by StanH
Is it a pack of 3 (I think) CDs ? OR the single DVD that some of us managed to get ?
If it is too old then you miss out on some 'Help' stuff (MS released VB6 before they fully completed things, particularly the Help)
Thus they quietly allowed us (Purchasers of VB6) to get a free years subscription to MSDN in the form of packs of CDs or single DVDs
If it is too new then you get flooded with a lot of VB.NET crap
I tried to download but the download button only takes me toQuote:
Originally Posted by Episcopal
"Thank you for downloading Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0 Service Pack 6 Cumulative Update ".
Nothing else happened. I will try again tomorrow.
My 'msdm Library Visual Studio 6' is two CD's. The paper insert refers to mid-1998. On the CD's it says "designed for Windows NT and Windows 98". There are numbers:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobbles
Disk1-Setup:
0698 Part No. x03-73118
Disk2:
0598 Part No. x03-73123
Service Pack 5 is one CD, copyright 2000
1100 Part No. x06-21662
Thanks. I will do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamOscarBrown
download is normal for me ...Quote:
Originally Posted by StanH
This is a direct URL to the msi file for the above referenced cumulative update:
https://download.microsoft.com/downl...37-x86-ENU.msi
I tried again to download "Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0 Service Pack 6 Cumulative Update" from that link using Firefox. Then I tried with MS Edge browser and it would have downloaded except I didn't have Visual Basic 6 installed. That makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by StanH
I haven't searched this website yet, But I wonder if it is possible to install Visual Basic 6 without installing Visual Studio?
Regarding the SP6 vs SP5Quote:
Originally Posted by StanH
I have had VB6 running for years, and I still have SP5.
I decided not to bother with SP6 since much of it seemed to be MS fixing problems with their flippin controls.
I avoid dependencies like the plague PARTICULARLY MS dependencies, so sticking with SP5 has had no ill effects (for me).
RegardingThat ONLY refers to the installation of the Help files.Quote:
if it is possible to install Visual Basic 6 without installing Visual Studio?
So yes you can install VB6 without installing the Help files.
However that will mean that you don't have integrated help, and the majority of us love having integrated help.
Don't bother using your 98 version as there was a lot lacking (as I described in my first post)
I use the Oct 2000 DVD.
Others in the forum often mention 2001 version but I seriously doubt that there is any additional VB6 help in there (just some more flippin VB.NET)
Since it is obvious that you have a legit version of VB6, I don't think anyone will jump on me for offering to get a copy to you.
Whereas they will be crawling out of the woodwork to jump on me for suggesting that you may not need SP6,
Rob
Thanks. Until you told me about the "Help" stuff I was thinking of not using Visual Studio. But my two statistical programs have very good help systems that allow inexperienced users to do very sophistocated things. So "Help" is important to me.
The dates of the directories on the CD's are:
1 Visual Basic 6.0 Professional Edition: (6/27/1998)
2 msdn Library - Visual Studio 6.0: (6/26/1998 each of 2 CD's)
3 Visual Studio 6.0 - Service Pack 4: (6/6/2000)
4 Visual Studio 6.0 - Service Pack 5: (2/1/2001)
Where do you think I stand with this? What would be better?
With respect to authoring integrated help, I use a program called VB HelpWriter. I suspect I have to find a substitute for Windows 10.
Does vb6’s PDW work OK on Win10?
When I was mentioning integrated Help, I was only referring to MS's help to the programmer when they(we) are using the VB6 IDEQuote:
Originally Posted by StanH
EG When you are typing the code to show a msgbox, you can place your cursor in the middle of the word MsgBox and press the F1 key of your keyboard.
The IDE will then open up the installed MSDN Library, showing the page describing the MsgBox function (what more could a man ask for ?)
I was not referring to us having the ability to create Help for the user of our programs.
So if you use your VB6 Pro CD, and my Oct 2000 MSDN, you are good to go.
Follow Elroy's advice for doing that. The MSDN is usually asked for near the end of the VB6 Install process (if my memory serves me right).
The install of the Service Pack can be done later.
That is what I will do. How can I obtain your Oct 2000 MSDN?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobbles
So I can be sure - is the advice of Elroy that you refer to the same as this one: https://www.vbforums.com/showthread....=Elroy+install
I will let the other members advise you on which is the best thread for installing VB6 in W10, as I have not done it.Quote:
Originally Posted by StanH
I have been using my XP machine for all VB6 development
Do you wish the single layer or the double layer ISO (I have another current thread describing how I trimmed it down to single layer) ?
If you browse my profile you will see how you can contact (e m a i l) me, or you could PM me
I installed VB6 6/27/1998 far enough to be able to create and run a "Hello World" project. I then downloaded Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0 Service Pack 6 Cumulative Update from
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...s.aspx?id=7030
The fille is: "VB60SP6-KB2708437-x86-ENU.msi"
I tried to run it with [right click] [Install]
Got this error:
Attachment 179297
How can I make the update run?
Edit ===
I do have a Visual Studio 6.0 Service Pack 5, but I hadn't installed it because I thought the cumulative update was cumulative.
I believe that the problem I describe in the post above was caused by an incorrectly titled download from Microsoft of a VB6 update. This is to explain how I corrected it -- as a warning to anyone else who might make the same mistake.
I have been following the procedure recommended by Elroy located here titled "Installing the VB6 IDE on Windows 10 - 64 bit." (started in August 2017)
https://www.vbforums.com/showthread....ght=cumulative
In That thread Elroy states "Once the VB6 IDE is initially installed, you should immediately install the VB6 Cumulative Service Pack 6 (SP6). It's still available from Microsoft and can be downloaded here. As a note, SP6 is a "cumulative" update. As such you need not be concerned with SP5 or any earlier VB6 service pack."
The link is to download file = "Vs6sp6B.exe", 3/25/04, 26.5 mb, "Service Pack 6 for Visual Basic 6.0"
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...s.aspx?id=5721
That works. My installation works now.
The problem described in my previous post was caused by trying to update my install of my VB6 disc of 6/27/1998. I had downloaded file = "VB60SP6-KB2708437-x86-ENU.msi", 8/16/2012, 9.8 mb, "Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0 Service Pack 6 Cumulative Update"
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...s.aspx?id=7030
This file was the cause of the problem. It is called "Cumulative Update", but it unlikely cumulative because its size is much smaller than the correct one the Elroy suggested.
I made the mistake of thinking that recent is better.
Did the MSDN Help integrate fully ?
(A general question - not related to your recent posts about SP6)
Yes it did. But I had some questions about about choices I made during install. I will post them tomorrow.
Glad you got everything to work. Nice to have VB6 properly installed, isn't it?
I installed the MSDN and the F1 help works correctly. But I made two choices that I am not sure about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobbles
1 I declined Backoffice. I don't know what it does and if I can make use of it.
2 I declined installing the "Tools", for the same reason.
Should I run the install again to pick up those things? If so, is it just a matter of running it again?
It is a long time since I installed VB6 Help.Quote:
Originally Posted by StanH
I am fairly sure I avoided back orifice
I don't recall what I chose with the Tools option.
If it were me, I would 'let sleeping dogs lie' and be grateful/thankful that the intrinsic help is working