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rob! i already started a thread a whole minute before you!
True, not much to really see as positive.
Obama will be seen as a weak leader. Everyone just was fed up with the economy and osama just said "change" and everyone just jumped on the band wangon. Who knows what will happen now.
Well it cant possibly be a "whole minunte" :lol: Within seconds but you posted it in the wrong forumQuote:
Originally Posted by dclamp
i wanted Mccain to win because he was against abortion.
Obama is for abortion. Damn him! fetus' have rights at the moment of CONCEPTION!
But abortion is a small piece of the puzzle. We need someone who can rebuild the country and restore it to a strong economy.
Still its history either way whomever would have won. Just Paylin would have been much better as shes a fine looking female! :D
she is taken rob!
i supposed that our economy is some what important... lol
Mccains speak is taking too long...
hmm Obama 333 to 155
Hes done now. McCain is seen as a stronger leader as hes a war hero and previous POW. He would be much more strong then skinny no-experience Osama.
Lets see tomorrow when the stock market opens how much of a "change" Osama does.
Now Osama is asking McCain for help running the country. If hes so great then why does he need help from McCain?
what channel are you watching? im watching ch7... Obammamamama is not talking yet...
and obama doesnt take office until January ;)
Yea, channel 7. It was stated from McCains consession phone call to Osama.
Perhaps a preview of the way things to come????
"Security" patrols stationed at polling places in Philly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU
stupid obama, he is wearing a red tie... red is not a tv color.
Red is for Democrat foo :D
Looked like he was fighting back tears when he was talking about McCain.
obama is getting his children a dog because they are moving to the white house... maybe if one of my parents become president, i will get a dog....
So now hes saying that "We wont get there in one year and maybe not in his term but eventually we will ge tthere."
So what happened to all that damn "change" already? :lol:
But that first part of his speech was good. The part about the "United States". Anyone have a quote of that part?
i am recording it on my pc... well at least i think i still am.
Pirating broadcasts huh dclamp? :lol: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dclamp
private use only ;)
i didnt get that part though. i am recording now.
Darn, well its been over for a few mins now. Maybe someone will upload the video to a certain video site ;)
i am uploaded a short clip of a news anchor interviewing some people who have been waiting since noon
I thought McCain came across very well/honorably in his speech, he would have made an excellent president, but I think that Obama is also a fine choice. Both are articulate and could potentially mend the damage that's been done to America's image abroad. As for the economy, lets face it, it's not the president that's going to save the economy, it's his economic advisors.....
i can hear fireworks outside... i know it isnt July 4th... Or disneyland, they dont start until 10...
Its the FBI dclamp. They are raiding your house for pirating software :lol:
Well I just want the one that will bring us out of this recession and not screw things up.
here we go.. only took like a hour and a half to upload... youtube sucks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otpbQF38s9g
Say that again when you accidentally get someone pregnant... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dclamp
Boo, very bad quality. Thats not the speach but the interview of the crowd. :(
what will happen now to the call centers owned by american here in asia? specially in the philippines huhu :(
I don't see what the fuss is about. Think yourselves lucky. You could have ended up with a [not seriuos] woman [/not serious] (such as the "mis-speaking" HC) in charge. Here in the UK, we ended up with...
Margaret Thatcher
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-imag...herhanibal.jpg
We all know the president has no real power. ;) Without sounding too bad, the consensus here (in the UK) seems to be that US citizens have gone against the stereotypical "americans are racist" thing and voted a non-white person into the presidency.
Now I havent followed the election (im not american! ;) ), but after reading a text about what Obama wants to change, I'd say I like him! He seems to be a man that will reson in questions using intelligence and careful thought, as opposed to using conservative "this is what we've always done, and this is what we'll do now"-thoughts.
I heard McCain is a bit of an angry guy, like he will act irrationally when angered, so do you really want someone who can't control his temper running your country? Obama looks more calm. I also wanted Obama to win cause some Americans are racist and its time you all got rid of that racist attitude, and if anyone thinks otherwise, i can find a fair few youtube videos to support my argument.
Also, Rob its Obama, with a B not Osama ;)... just cause one of his parents is muslim doesn't make him a terrorist. He's actually Christian. :p
Thanks, love you too :afrog:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew G
Except you crptcblade, your too cute to be racist :afrog:Quote:
Originally Posted by crptcblade
Remember change is good because it is change. And if the change is not good enought (remember change is good) we can change the change.
And so on and so on. Change the Change Then Change the Change that Changed the Change
Now you two get a room!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew G
Congrats to the USA.
We'll just wait if he keep his promises. :wave:
This is the stereotypical view that I speak of; and it is one which the US needs to try and shake if it is to promote a "free country" and boast their values and democratic ways to the rest of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew G
Sure, racism is still systemic in the US (and the UK) and is an issue which will remain for a long time, not least, the view that the establishment itself is inherently racist. The issue of racism doesn't only extend to the "Black / Afro-Caribbean", as Rob Dog so effectively demonstrated, there is now the issue of racism toward Islamic societies. Apparently being Muslim makes you a terrorist - I encounter many individuals in the UK who also make the same assumptions.
Some US citizens have done a good thing by casting aside any societal miss conceptions regarding race and voting for the best candidate. Others, possibly non white US citizens probably voted for the first time in their lives simply because Obama was standing, others probably voted for McCain simply because he was white and they would rather be dead than see Obama as president.
The fact that he won is to the rest of the world a big, historic change. To us outsiders, we see the US president as a representative of the people, an ambassador for the US citizens and, even though racism will remain a problem for the US which will take time to "sort out". For the first time I think we will see other countries, especially the middle eastern countries, Russia, China, North Korea, Pakistan become more receptive to the US foreign policy.
So, Obama has literally been handed a chance to change the world. His leadership will be the test of weather or not he can do that. Weather or not he does is irrelevant, because he has already made history. :wave:
It's over and done with and Obama won fair and square. All I will say now is that he's my President and I wish the best for him and hope he has a very successful term. I'm sure some of us have doubts, but maybe he will turn things around and prove that he's not just a light without heat. So in four years or even a couple I'd like to look back and say I was wrong about the guy.
With that said, I'm gonna contradict what I've said in other posts and say that I think Obama will have an easier time changing things than what people think. For the most part, a president just guides and influences policy. With such a large majority of our politicians having democratic leaning, it shouldn't be a challenge for Obama to get a "yes" on anything he wants done. That means the opportunity for change is definitely there, but the correct decisions still have to be made.
You can also find some youtube videos on the church Obama attended for so long - it might make your idea of "who hates who" less one sided.Quote:
Americans are racist and its time you all got rid of that racist attitude, and if anyone thinks otherwise, i can find a fair few youtube videos to support my argument.
Since no one else has made a comment on this, I would like to emphasize that calling Obama "Osama" is ridiculous and makes you look like a fool.
If Obama can actually motivate change then good but change for the sake of change is not always good. It has to be the right change. You can not play trial and error with the economy. Careful research and analysis needs to be done. This takes time which of course we do not have. Remember there are stero types and Obama is not your typical Afro-American. That is the one thing he has going for him to help him suceed in fixing the country. Seems Americans are not as racist as many think. 62% of voters, I think it was was, were white supporters of Obama. Noww how is that racist?