[RESOLVED] Button to insert or embed YouTube Vedios in Chit chat forum

Hai Mod's and Admin's

what about a Button to insert or embed YouTube Vedios into Chit chat forum Threads to have more fun ?

:D

Interesting idea but there are at least two good reasons not to do it.

1. It would take a modification to the forum's underlying software and we don't do that unless there's a very good reason to do so.
2. I know that YouTube filters their site for inappropriate content but there are still some things shown there that we wouldn't want here and so the admins would have to look at each one posted to determine if it was okay.

Thanks Martin for the response.
Yes, 2 Reasonable Reasons :(

MartinLiss' second reason is the bigger one for us avoiding YouTube videos in chit chat....

Brad!

No one's mentioned the BIGGEST reason this is out of the question, so I will. Loading those videos, or any object, to a webpage requires scripting. There is absolutely no chance that we will ever allow scripting in posts.

I am not that good when come to online security concerns. What security problems are there in an implimantation like this ?

assume , A Combo / List Box with a label "Select Vedio Source" and the list shows "YouTube", "MySpace", "MetaCafe", "Yahoo". user select one, then a prompt "Please Insert the url of the vedio?".

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Originally Posted by JPnyc

No one's mentioned the BIGGEST reason this is out of the question, so I will. Loading those videos, or any object, to a webpage requires scripting. There is absolutely no chance that we will ever allow scripting in posts.

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This says it all.

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Originally Posted by Fazi

I am not that good when come to online security concerns. What security problems are there in an implimantation like this ?

assume , A Combo / List Box with a label "Select Vedio Source" and the list shows "YouTube", "MySpace", "MetaCafe", "Yahoo". user select one, then a prompt "Please Insert the url of the vedio?".

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the point is that it'll require scripting. You can't just enable scripting and pick and choose the script you wish to permit. If you allow scripting it can be used maliciously. We would be hacked within the first week and possibly all of you having your machines compromised as well. Out of the question.

Yes, I Undestood :D

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Originally Posted by JPnyc

the point is that it'll require scripting. You can't just enable scripting and pick and choose the script you wish to permit. If you allow scripting it can be used maliciously. We would be hacked within the first week and possibly all of you having your machines compromised as well. Out of the question.

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You should be friends with the networking dept where I work. If there is even one security concern with something they wont allow it.

For example: port 995 they wont unblock it because its a security risk. Howerver, they have port 110 unblocked.
(Port 995 = Secure POP3 http://isc.sans.org/port.html?port=995 )

Oh yeah they also pass all the work to our dept (Desktop group).

Even if there was a way to safly script it, the other problem is moderating the videos. Who has that kind of time to watch videos all day long while at work without getting caught? :lol:

If it was put in I dont think you guys would stand for your videos being approved within a 24-48 hour timeframe :D

Can't you just link to the video you want to show?
Like this.

Problem solved.

Yes, they can do that and have been but those links get viewed by the mods too as its not too bad yet seeing they only are posting them once in a while.. But if we were able to get a workaround for embedded videos the volume of video posts would go up way too much for us to moderate them. They would have to go into the moderation queue and not be posted until approved by a mod after viewing the entire video. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa too much time wasted for this. We are a programming community, not a you tube.

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Originally Posted by JPnyc

No one's mentioned the BIGGEST reason this is out of the question, so I will. Loading those videos, or any object, to a webpage requires scripting. There is absolutely no chance that we will ever allow scripting in posts.

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Incorrect, it's a simple bcode creation in forum products. Actually having a play with this at the moment, really want to see if it impacts on bandwidth and if there are any possible injections through it's use.

Question would be I guess can you restrict the bcode to one forum in this product, might require a modification ?

Fazi you haven't been posted up vids about Britney Spears have you :confused:

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Originally Posted by AceRimmer

Incorrect, it's a simple bcode creation in forum products. Actually having a play with this at the moment, really want to see if it impacts on bandwidth and if there are any possible injections through it's use.

Question would be I guess can you restrict the bcode to one forum in this product, might require a modification ?

Fazi you haven't been posted up vids about Britney Spears have you :confused:

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This could be done, I've done it myself in a forum I made. I'm not sure about the security risks, but there is still the problem of content filtering. So...

Scripting or no scripting, I just don't see how videos are relevant on this site.

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

We are a programming community, not a you tube.

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Moderating the content of a general discussion forum is work enough without having to watch videos as well.

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Originally Posted by AceRimmer

Question would be I guess can you restrict the bcode to one forum in this product, might require a modification ?

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Yes, it can be restricted but then that definately wil require a forum Hack which is very rarely done. And then it usually done if it improves some required feature or function of the technical forums. We have never Hacked the site for "improving" CC. ;)

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Originally Posted by penagate

Scripting or no scripting, I just don't see how videos are relevant on this site.

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I completely agree.

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Originally Posted by penagate

Moderating the content of a general discussion forum is work enough without having to watch videos as well.

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Not only watch, but have to then make a determination on whether it should be allowed.

If you are interested in watching a Youtube vidoe then go to Youtube.

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Originally Posted by Hack

I completely agree.Not only watch, but have to then make a determination on whether it should be allowed.

If you are interested in watching a Youtube vidoe then go to Youtube.

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Or you can go to a forum site that embeds youtube vids ;)

Point taken on the content though, we're currently trialing and already have had to take down three from a thus far count of 20 or so. Besides the odd movie trailer being posted no one seems overly interested in youtube content. So possibly a complete waste of everyone's time.

For anyone thinking of using this on their site, bandwidth doesn't appear to be taking a hit.

Will be a good business Too :D
Google Brings Ad-Supported youtube Videos to adsense Publishers.

http://www.informationweek.com/softw...leID=202400544

Google ads traditionally do not bring in much revenue at all. Its the manufacturer ads, that are sold by the sites sales dept, that really bring in the $

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Originally Posted by AceRimmer

Incorrect, it's a simple bcode creation in forum products. Actually having a play with this at the moment, really want to see if it impacts on bandwidth and if there are any possible injections through it's use.

Question would be I guess can you restrict the bcode to one forum in this product, might require a modification ?

Fazi you haven't been posted up vids about Britney Spears have you :confused:

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I know precisely how it's done. The BB code substitution however would be a substitution for what? It would be a substitution for script tags. That's no different than allowing scripting with actual script tags. You want to take a chance on downloading an executable that had its extension changed to MPEG? Or perhaps an MPEG file that contains malicious code? Even a gif can contain malicious code. There is no way the company would ever OK something like this, nor would I.

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Originally Posted by JPnyc

I know precisely how it's done. The BB code substitution however would be a substitution for what? It would be a substitution for script tags. That's no different than allowing scripting with actual script tags. You want to take a chance on downloading an executable that had its extension changed to MPEG? Or perhaps an MPEG file that contains malicious code? Even a gif can contain malicious code. There is no way the company would ever OK something like this, nor would I.

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Then why exactly do you allow the other various bbcodes used in this product? Any forum product lives on mass substitutions of parsed entries to the underlying technologies.

The bbcode parses the actual vid web address, nothing more nothing less, it uses the inheriant classes already in the forum product, ergo if you think that is a risk than by definition the site is already at risk with or without youtube bbcodes.

A heck of a lot of sites are already using the bbcodes, yet to see anyone reporting on various web coding sites, forum product sites, or indeed forum runner sites any problems with youtube embedding. And that includes various phpBB communities.

Point was taken above, made by one of your mods, that an issue would be "policing" the actual inserts. Fair enough, can't argue with that.

Because none of them involve scripting with the ability to embed objects. I'm not even a hacker, and I know how to compromise that technology. I won't post it, but I know how.