No policemen to be charged for Menezes Killing
BBC News
I'm really quite upset at this. First we decide to investigate it as a health and safety issue rather than a manslaughter/murder issue and then we decide not to procede on the basis of insufficient evidence, despite the fact that a carriage full of commuters witnessed the incident and an entire chain of command must be able to provide evidence as to who said what in the build up. Whether or not and police should actually be found guilty is debatabe, but without charges and a trial we'll simply never know. :mad:
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its just because its a policeman...
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Originally Posted by Gameunreal
its just because its a policeman...
The monopoly of violence lies with the police, wether they are good or 'dodgy' what other choice is there?
I do hold compasion for the victim and his etc. but could you convict a copper for doing as he is told? Namely taking out a potential suicide bomber? Obviously in such a situation there is no other option than to shoot first and ask later. How they got to that wrong assessment is what is interesting and what any inquery should be about. To scream for a murder verdict is to beg for a cover-up, It was a whole organisation that failed in this case.
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the cops in the UK are trained much better than here .. here you even turn your back on a cop and you get a bullet in the back no questions ever asked .. the courts here are even worse ..
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It needn't be a murder charge. Manslaughter covers cases of negligence and someone, somewhere in the chain of the command must have been negligent IMO.
Add to that the fact that this guy was shot several times in the head AFTER he had been pinned to the floor (according to eye witness accounts) and that the initial investigations uncovered strong evidence of cover up and something stinks to high heaven. To proceed under 'health and safety' laws is franky farcical.
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Well one can probably rule out eye witness reports - they've probably never seen anybody be shot, let alone repeatedly :/
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I find it funny that Menezes' cousin looks strikingly similiar to Hussain Osman.
Meneze (left) and Hussain Osman (right):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl..._osman_203.jpg
Menezes' cousin:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl...op1_203_pa.jpg
I would have understood the confusion between Osman and Meneze's cousin.
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Come on guys right or wrong the guy ran away. I would have shot him.
and if you've been shot once whats wrong with a few more?
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Come on guys right or wrong the guy ran away.
...but according to eye witness reports AND cctv footage, no he didn't. He walked into the tube station, stopped to buy a paper, walked onto the train and sat down.
Mind you, as has been said, eye witness reports are less than reliable in this case. On the day it happened people were coming out of the station saying they saw a man wearing a body warmer and rucksack. I even saw one guy interviewed who said he had wires sticking out of him!
BTW the shot several times in the head bit is, of course, backed up by forensics. To my knowledge the 'pinned to the ground bit' is only from eye witness accounts though the police have not denied it.
