Is there any way it can be moved to the bottom of the visual basic section? I dont know how other people feel, but i find it quite irritating where vb.net was..
If not, then ill just shut up
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Is there any way it can be moved to the bottom of the visual basic section? I dont know how other people feel, but i find it quite irritating where vb.net was..
If not, then ill just shut up
I can understand where you are coming from with that.
My view however is that if it is further down the page then newcomers (which is who it is most likely to apply to) are less likely to see it.
I know that it may be annoying, but you'll soon get used to the change :)
Well then shouldnt it be at the top? Also, shouldnt the FAQ bar at the top redirect to the FAQ Section?
It is irritating, no doubt. They should simply cut those adds by at lest half so there will be more than enough room for everything.
Hmmmmnnn... It seems those two FAQ's are quite confusing... There should be a distinction between them. :)
I think I understand you now, when I used an 800 x 600 resolution those ads actually almost occupied half of the screen. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RhinoBull
they do take 1/2 my screen : /
How about placing the FAQ Forum first. Then VB Classic and VB.NET?
Nooooooo..., no way. Leave it how it is, it's fine. I hardly ever go in the VB.NET forum, but I go in several of the ones below it, and they've all moved down. We'll get used to it.
BTW, I just posted my first FAQ item. I feel special :D
I hope that VBF emails the link to it (wherever it is) in the welcome letter to all newbies. Let them know that it exists, and to look there first.
yeah why is .NET being treated inferior to VB6?:D if your logic is to grab more attention by putting it on top, then it should be Faqs, vb6, vb.net.... in that order :)
I think such ordering would be ideal.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPolite
it'd be more LOGICAL:DQuote:
Originally Posted by dee-u
Good Lord, you all sound like my stodgy old grandmother complaining about her teacup being placed on that table to her left, instead of the table to her right, where it has always been placed. :)
I suspect that if you look before you click you will wind up in the section that you wish to be in.
With such resolution it shoud take entire screen ... :) It takes more than half of my screen with resolution 1024 x 768.Quote:
Originally Posted by dee-u
The FAQs should come first because we want people to look their for their answers.
VB.NET should really come second since it is the newest version and has two releases. Classic should follow. I won't change this at this time, but after the release of 2005, the order of these two may be changed.
Brad!
As to the ads....
I've already brought that issue up internally. The response was that we can move them to the right side of the page like http://forums.devx.com/ or leave them where they are. If you want them moved to the left side, then it will scrunch things up a bit.
Brad!
To be quite honest Brad, both Codeguru and DevX forums look horrible with the ads on the side. Personally, I'm fine with them at the top, I don't have any problem scrolling down, in fact I have never considered it a big deal at all since I joined.
(This is a big hint that I for one never want ads on the side :))
I prefer them at the top versus the side as well -- which is why they haven't been moved even though I was told that was the solution for the larger ads that were being displayed.Quote:
Originally Posted by penagate
As to the FAQs - I've now added a reference to them in the "welcome" message that goes out to new members. That was a good suggestion.
Brad!
Excellent, thanks Brad :)
Could we also add a link to the VB FAQ's in the forum usage FAQ page (http://www.vbforums.com/faq.php) as |2eM!x suggested? Or is that not possible/appropriate?
I prefer the Ad's at the top too, especially as code postings need lots of width.
As to the adds location ...
You can easily accommodate adds right next to the header and above "VB Wire News" section and even use the "news" section for some links but to have them as they are now I think is unacceptable by any standards.
brilliant:D your life will prosper by doing that;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brad jones
yeah and I think everyone agrees that moving those monstrous ads to the right would be blasphemous
I think the ads on top and having the FAQ first, then VB.NET and Classic VB are good choices. :thumb:
And I maintain the order doesn't matter if you are looking before clicking. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
Oh but the order does matter:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brad jones
the order matters hackQuote:
Originally Posted by Hack
otherwise your grandmother would have never complained about her tea cup being placed in the wrong place:D
Hey, respect the elders - VB.Classic goes FIRST, that's it! :p
If that was true then the BASIC Forum would be first instead of burried down where it currently is. ;)
Out with the old and in with the new...
Nah, it falls under different category - it ain't visual. ;)
Hmmmmm ... something strange: just a minute ago VB.Classic was first in the list and then was VB FAQ so I was going to say "wow ... they actually did change it ..." :) but after refreshing page it "came back to normal" :sick:
Anybody ???
I clicked already couple of times on the FAQ section, and I actually wanted to go to Classical VB.... But it's really not difficult to click on the back button on my browser and click on the right link.
So I really don't mind it there, and I actually think it's a good idea to put it there for the new people to see (Although right now it's not much in that forum).
Also, can anyone post in there ?
Because imagine how many people (especially new ppl) will post in the FAQ forum posts like "How do I do this ?"
I think (if possible), to restrict who can post in the FAQ to people who have at least over a few hundred posts (assuming that that person got the hang of how vbforums works by then). Especially because that is the first link in the list, a lot of people will be tempted to post there.
Also... (Not really related to FAQ section) Is it possible that when an Admin moves a thread, to move it without showing "Moved: blah blah" in the original forum ? I did not see many lately, but sometimes (especially in the CodeBank) there are like 5-10 threads all moved (off topic) in one page. It would look better if it simply moves without still showing in the original forum.
Anyone can post to the FAQ forum but every post is moderated. So your post will not show until it is approved or it is rejected by Si, a Super Mod, or Admin.
Limiting to who can post there by postcount is not too good since what if a expert programmer joined and wanted to post some of his stuff?
If a thread gets moved then it is beneficial to the thread starter to be able to know what happened so they can learn for the future. So posting in the to be moved thread is a positive thing. Perhaps something like "Moved to blah, blah ,blah forum" ?
The moderation is as posted by RobDog888, and is very useful as it enables us to verify items are valid for the FAQ, and of a suitable quality/format (with minor modifications if needed), and they can be added to the "index" threads appropriately.
If posts aren't valid for any reason, they can be moved to the appropriate forum, or deleted.
We've already had proof of postcount limits being a bad idea, somebody with only 1 post had a problem with getting one of the FAQ items to work (the ADO tutorial). They were able to post a reply to say where they had the problem, so hopefully we can improve the item for future visitors.
I know the quantity of threads in the FAQ is limited, but there are a few more on the way. There probably won't be hundreds of threads, as it is meant to be a place to find answers to Frequent questions, rather than every question that we can all think of.
FAQ shouldn't really be a discussion forum but rather "static" page(s) where all someone can "get" is the answers to some common question instead of say do a massive search. So, from my perspective it's a nice job someone's done but really is a waste. Sorry but how I see it.
FAQs shall never be part of any discussion (I think I said this twice) what so ever. If you need any help in setting this up I will be very glad to assist (just like most of us I guess). It should also have many different sections such VB.Classic, VB.Net, C# and so on and so forth ... Navigation to main page should be a single link - just User CP (or something) ...
You can also look at it this way RB, if someone posts saying "How do I get data from a web page?". You know this gets asked almost a couple of times a week. It is easier to say look at the FAQ #3, or such, instead of saying "Do a search" or "Google is your friend" which is not very friendly replies. ;)
What are you talking about, Rob? FAQ is a place where people get their answers to questions that are frequently asked. FAQ are usually have sections as I mentioned already, also each of those sections will need to have subsections like Files, Winsock, ADO and so on ... in the same way menus work ... But the way it is set up now is really ... well, I don't want to hurt nobody's feelings ... rediculous. Sorry.
BTW, here is a very nice example of how it could be done:
FAQ by Randy Birch .
edit: some typo fixed
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Originally Posted by RobDog888
Check this out.
Apart from slight variations in formatting (such as lines between the sections), that doesn't look particularly different to me RB :confused:
How would you recommend we change our VB FAQ section?
Well, if you can number each one, maybe even using a Section - Number, and put them into a textfile, then we could download that and refer people to FAQ W-3, or Dep-6 instead of having to look at the FAQ to get the link of the thread that would help. It'd be easy to say search the FAQ, but I didn't do it that way today.
I would do it the way FAQ are normally done:
- define top level sections (or categories if you will)
- define sub section (category) for top level
- only last in the hierarchy would have "question - answer"
I did provide link to one very typical layout so you may want to look at it.
Also, here are some others:
http://www.vbcity.com/forums/faq.asp - I think this one is one of the best!
http://www.windowsitpro.com/windowsnt20002003faq/
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/
http://www.w3.org/Security/Faq/www-security-faq.html
http://xml.silmaril.ie/
In any case as I've already emntioned, FAQ shall never be a discussion forum.
You've got your answer and if you're not satisfied with it then there is always a specific forum for open discussions.