Initialize vs. Load

When and why would you use the Form_Initialize event rather than the Form_Load event?

Form_Initialize occurs when an application creates an instance of a Form, MDIForm, or class.

Syntax

Private Sub object_[n]Initialize( )[/b]

The object placeholder represents an object expression that evaluates to an object in the Applies To list.

Remarks

You trigger the Initialize event when you:

Use the CreateObject function to create an instance of a class. For example:

• Set X = CreateObject("Project1.MyClass")
  
• Refer to a property or event of an automatically created instance of a form or class in your code. For example:

MyForm.Caption = "Example"

Use this event to initialize any data used by the instance of the Form, MDIForm, or class. For a Form or MDIForm, the Initialize event occurs before the Load event.


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Form_Load occurs when a form is loaded. For a startup form, occurs when an application starts as the result of a Load statement or as the result of a reference to an unloaded form's properties or controls.

Syntax

Private Sub Form_Load( )
Private Sub MDIForm_Load( )

Remarks

Typically, you use a Load event procedure to include initialization code for a formfor example, code that specifies default settings for controls, indicates contents to be loaded into ComboBox or ListBox controls, and initializes form-level variables.
The Load event occurs after the Initialize event.
When you reference a property of an unloaded form in code, the form is automatically loaded but isn't automatically made visible unless the MDIChild property is set to True. If an MDIForm object isn't loaded and an MDI child form is loaded, both the MDIForm and the child form are automatically loaded and both become visible. Other forms aren't shown until you either use the Show method or set the Visible property to True.
The following code in an MDIForm Load event automatically loads an MDI child form (assuming Form1 has its MDIChild property set to True):

Dim NewForm As New Form1

NewForm.Caption = "New Form" ' Loads form by reference.

Because all child forms become visible when loaded, the reference to the Caption property loads the form and makes it visible.

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Note When you create procedures for related events, such as Activate, GotFocus, Paint, and Resize, be sure that their actions don't conflict and that they don't cause recursive events.
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You probably don't need to care about the Initialize event. :rolleyes:
It is used when using a form as an object.

Code:

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Dim MyForm As frmTemplate
' No event yet

Set MyForm = New frmTemplate
' Initialize

Call Load(MyForm)
' Load

Call MyForm.Show
DoEvents
' Resize, Activate, GotFocus, Paint (in that order)

Call Unload(MyForm)
' QueryUnload, Unload (in that order)

Set MyForm = Nothing
' Terminate

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Hope this helps! :rolleyes:

I really appreciate your input. I'm still having trouble imagining a scenario where it would be better to put initialization code into the Initialize event rather than the Load event. I understand the order in which these events occur, and also what causes them to occur. Could someone please give me a practical example??!!

One practicle use would be if you wanted to intercept WM_CREATE messages, normally you would hook the thread in a Module then launch the Form, but instead you can just hook the thread in the Forms Initialize Event. This example removes the Scrollbar from a Listbox by intercepting it's Creation Message and altering it's Style:

In a Module:

Code:

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Option Explicit

Private Type CWPSTRUCT
        lParam As Long
        wParam As Long
        message As Long
        hwnd As Long
End Type

Private Type CREATESTRUCT
        lpCreateParams As Long
        hInstance As Long
        hMenu As Long
        hWndParent As Long
        cy As Long
        cx As Long
        y As Long
        x As Long
        style As Long
        lpszName As Long 'string
        lpszClass As Long 'string
        ExStyle As Long
End Type

Private Declare Sub CopyMemory Lib "kernel32" Alias "RtlMoveMemory" (Destination As Any, Source As Any, ByVal Length As Long)

Private Declare Function GetWindowLong Lib "user32" Alias "GetWindowLongA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal nIndex As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function SetWindowLong Lib "user32" Alias "SetWindowLongA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal nIndex As Long, ByVal dwNewLong As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function CallWindowProc Lib "user32" Alias "CallWindowProcA" (ByVal lpPrevWndFunc As Long, ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal Msg As Long, ByVal wParam As Long, ByVal lParam As Long) As Long

Private Declare Function GetClassName Lib "user32" Alias "GetClassNameA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal lpClassName As String, ByVal nMaxCount As Long) As Long

Private Declare Function SetWindowsHookEx Lib "user32" Alias "SetWindowsHookExA" (ByVal idHook As Long, ByVal lpfn As Long, ByVal hmod As Long, ByVal dwThreadId As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function UnhookWindowsHookEx Lib "user32" (ByVal hHook As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function CallNextHookEx Lib "user32" (ByVal hHook As Long, ByVal ncode As Long, ByVal wParam As Long, lParam As Any) As Long

Private Const WH_CALLWNDPROC = 4

Private Const GWL_WNDPROC = (-4)
Private Const GWL_STYLE = (-16)

Private Const WM_CREATE = &H1
Private Const WS_VSCROLL = &H200000

Private lHook As Long
Private lSubList As Long

Public Sub HookThread()
    lHook = SetWindowsHookEx(WH_CALLWNDPROC, AddressOf HookApp, App.hInstance, App.ThreadID)
End Sub

Public Sub UnHookThread()
    Call UnhookWindowsHookEx(lHook)
End Sub

Private Function HookApp(ByVal lHookID As Long, ByVal wParam As Long, ByVal lParam As Long) As Long
    Dim tCWP As CWPSTRUCT
    Dim sClass As String

    'Monitor this application thread for Window Creation Messages
    Call CopyMemory(tCWP, ByVal lParam, Len(tCWP))

    If tCWP.message = WM_CREATE Then
        'Looking for a Listbox class...
        sClass = Space(128)
        Call GetClassName(tCWP.hwnd, ByVal sClass, 128)
        sClass = Left(sClass, InStr(sClass, Chr(0)) - 1)
        If InStr(LCase(sClass), "listbox") Then
            'When found, Subclass this Window before the Listbox is created
            lSubList = SetWindowLong(tCWP.hwnd, GWL_WNDPROC, AddressOf SubListCreate)
        End If
    End If
    HookApp = CallNextHookEx(lHook, lHookID, wParam, ByVal lParam)
End Function

Private Function SubListCreate(ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal Msg As Long, ByVal wParam As Long, ByVal lParam As Long) As Long
    Dim tCreate As CREATESTRUCT
   
    'Capture the Create Message for the Listbox and Remove the Vertical Scrollbar from it's Style
    If Msg = WM_CREATE Then
        Call CopyMemory(tCreate, ByVal lParam, Len(tCreate))
        tCreate.style = tCreate.style Xor WS_VSCROLL
        Call CopyMemory(ByVal lParam, tCreate, Len(tCreate))
        Call SetWindowLong(hwnd, GWL_STYLE, tCreate.style)
        'Remove the SubClassing for the Listbox
        Call SetWindowLong(hwnd, GWL_WNDPROC, lSubList)
    End If
    SubListCreate = CallWindowProc(lSubList, hwnd, Msg, wParam, lParam)
End Function

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In the Form:

Code:

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Private Sub Form_Initialize()
    'Hoop the Application Thread before the Controls get a chance to be created
    HookThread
End Sub

Private Sub Form_Load()
    Dim lIndex As Long
   
    For lIndex = 1 To 100
        List1.AddItem "Item " & lIndex
    Next
End Sub

Private Sub Form_Terminate()
    'Remove the Hook
    UnHookThread
End Sub

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