WHat's the difference between Athlon64 FX-51 64 Bit
and Athlon64 3200+ 64 Bit? They're both 64-bit but the price difference is more than 2x.
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WHat's the difference between Athlon64 FX-51 64 Bit
and Athlon64 3200+ 64 Bit? They're both 64-bit but the price difference is more than 2x.
My guess is the FX-51 is for servers and no 32 bit compatibility.
3200 is desktop brand with 32 bit compatibility.
according to Pc Pro magazine, the only differences are that the FX-51 has a slightly higher clock speed and better memory access. They reckon it isnt worth the extra cash unless you need every tiny performance boost you can get.
All current AMD 64-bit CPUs have native 32-bit support and none of them are just 'server' chips.Quote:
Originally posted by Cander
My guess is the FX-51 is for servers and no 32 bit compatibility.
3200 is desktop brand with 32 bit compatibility.
Didnt say they were server ONLY did I? The term server chip is accurate as there isnt a whole lot of reason for you to need one on a desktop, unless you are a power ***** that wants to dish out 2x the cost for performance you wont see. The term server chip is in regards to servers and workstations.
You said the FX series was a server chip.... so if it was a server chip, it couldn't be a 'desktop' chip. Therefore, only for servers.Quote:
Originally posted by Cander
Didnt say they were server ONLY did I?
Where the hell did this 'server' chip crap come from anyway? There are some chips designed to work best with certain server environments, but none are required to be used as a server.
The term 'server chip' isn't accurate because that isn't what they are. They are ment to be powerful CPUs for people who need speed, not just servers (which usually don't need alot of raw power).Quote:
Originally posted by Cander
The term server chip is accurate as there isnt a whole lot of reason for you to need one on a desktop, unless you are a power ***** that wants to dish out 2x the cost for performance you wont see.
Depending on the other hardware you buy for the chips, you may or may not see a difference but if you get equally good hardware, you'll probably notice it.
servers != workstationsQuote:
Originally posted by Cander
The term server chip is in regards to servers and workstations.
You really don't know how to interact with people, do you Kasracer? :huh:
That is incorrect.Quote:
Originally posted by Pc_Madness
You really don't know how to interact with people, do you Kasracer? :huh:
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Forgive me... but the Opteron is a 64bit CPU... and that IS designed to be a server CPU. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by kasracer
All current AMD 64-bit CPUs have native 32-bit support and none of them are just 'server' chips.
You really need to do some research before you slag other people's comments... it is possible they know more than you!Quote:
From AMD Focus
As your computing needs evolve, there’s only one server processor solution that allows you to grow into 64-bit applications without sacrificing your x86 technology investment. That solution is the AMD Opteron processor.
They are meant to be CPUs that operate best under the conditions that servers experience. Servers perform very different types of work than workstations normally do.Quote:
Originally posted by kasracer
The term 'server chip' isn't accurate because that isn't what they are. They are ment to be powerful CPUs for people who need speed, not just servers (which usually don't need alot of raw power).
And this issue of not needing a lot of 'raw power'... what pray tell are you basing this statement on? Your years of enterprise level systems administration experience? It all depends on what the server actually does.
Datacentre servers for large companies, for example insurance companies, often have very large rack-mountable servers in 2x, 4x, 8x, etc. CPU configurations. Now tell me those servers don't need "raw power".
Which is what I said...Quote:
Originally posted by plenderj
They are meant to be CPUs that operate best under the conditions that servers experience.
YesQuote:
Originally posted by plenderj
Your years of enterprise level systems administration experience?
What are you talking about? Did you even look at his comments? Why did you even bring op the Opteron? I've already said there are CPUs more geared towards servers but they don't have to be used as such......Quote:
Originally posted by VisionIT
Forgive me... but the Opteron is a 64bit CPU... and that IS designed to be a server CPU. :rolleyes:
You really need to do some research before you slag other people's comments... it is possible they know more than you!
I see no point in your post....
Semantics...any excuse to argue.
Of course :DQuote:
Originally posted by run_GMoney
Semantics...any excuse to argue.
The point of my post was to correct your post. You said and i quote...Quote:
Originally posted by kasracer
What are you talking about? Did you even look at his comments? Why did you even bring op the Opteron? I've already said there are CPUs more geared towards servers but they don't have to be used as such......
I see no point in your post....
"All current AMD 64-bit CPUs have native 32-bit support and none of them are just 'server' chips"
Which is obviously wrong... as the Opteron is a 64 bit processor... and that IS server orientated. I'm not slagging you off m8... but i'de wish you didn't try to fool other... more intelligent people in to your way of thinking! If you honestly think the new AMD processors are not directed at the server market... you need to go back 2 college! :)
PlenderJ's slightly sarcastic comment just shows it's not only me that thinks your a twit... :p
Dude, re-read my post again until it gets through your thick head. I said it wasn't JUST a server chip, it can be used as a workstation chip. If you think that what you quoted from me is wrong, then maybe you should think about not using computers anymore.Quote:
Originally posted by VisionIT
The point of my post was to correct your post. You said and i quote...
"All current AMD 64-bit CPUs have native 32-bit support and none of them are just 'server' chips"
Which is obviously wrong... as the Opteron is a 64 bit processor... and that IS server orientated. I'm not slagging you off m8... but i'de wish you didn't try to fool other... more intelligent people in to your way of thinking! If you honestly think the new AMD processors are not directed at the server market... you need to go back 2 college! :)
PlenderJ's slightly sarcastic comment just shows it's not only me that thinks your a twit... :p
What's with the "fool more intelligent people in to your way of thinking" bull****? Do you read any of posts here?
:sick:
Will you ever stop selling tainted meat?Quote:
Originally posted by kasracer
Dude, re-read my post again until it gets through your thick head. I said it wasn't JUST a server chip, it can be used as a workstation chip. If you think that what you quoted from me is wrong, then maybe you should think about not using computers anymore.
What's with the "fool more intelligent people in to your way of thinking" bull****? Do you read any of posts here?
:sick:
:blush:
I'm not even getting in to this argument...
Kasracer... from now on... you're always right. :p
NO!Quote:
Originally posted by crptcblade
Will you ever stop selling tainted meat?
:blush:
YES! FINALLY, SOMEONE GETS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by VisionIT
I'm not even getting in to this argument...
Kasracer... from now on... you're always right. :p