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Jan 13th, 2003, 05:05 PM
The Hobo

I don't know much of anything

Can anyone tell me how limited the Standard Edition of VB.Net is? My campus bookstore has it for $59. Is that a good deal? Is it worth it?

If I can't do much with the Standard Edition, then it probably isn't worth it. But I don't know if it has any limitations or anything.
Jan 13th, 2003, 06:14 PM
Edneeis

I don't have the Standard Edition but I believe it doesn't have an interface for creating DLLs (although you could but you'd have to compile them via command line). I don't think that the Standard package has the Upgrade wizard either to upgrade vb6 code. Although it does a poor conversion job anyway so no great loss. I know that the 2003 version coming out has the Upgrade Wizard though.
Jan 13th, 2003, 06:19 PM
RealNickyDude
I have VB Standard:
- There is no Update Wizard
- There is No "Create Setup Package Wizard"
- The Windows Control Library template is not available
- You cannot create local ASP.NET web applications if you have XP Home Edition
Jan 13th, 2003, 06:49 PM
Edneeis

Can you make DLLs with Standard?
Jan 13th, 2003, 07:02 PM
The Hobo
Quote:
Originally posted by RealNickyDude
The Windows Control Library template is not available
What does this mean, exactly?
Jan 13th, 2003, 08:19 PM
RealNickyDude

Quote:

Originally posted by Edneeis
Can you make DLLs with Standard?

I'm not sure, how do you make a DLL?

Quote:

What does this mean, exactly?

Not sure, I got it off a microsoft site, something to do with creating your own user controls I think (but don't quote me :D )
Jan 13th, 2003, 10:13 PM
The Hobo

So what are your opinions? Should I go for it?

I really want VB6.0, but they don't have it...so I figured why not learn .Net and use that?

is $59.00 a good deal? Amazon.com has it for $106.99, but I don't know what the average going rate is for it.

And I don't want a crappy limited version. If I can make programs, and hopefully controls, distribute them, stuff like that, then I'm happy.
Jan 13th, 2003, 11:45 PM
hellswraith

Quote:

And I don't want a crappy limited version. If I can make programs, and hopefully controls, distribute them, stuff like that, then I'm happy.

If I were you, I would go with a Professional version. Those missing features will make you mad based on the statement I quoted above.

Are you in College? If so, here is a link to buy VS.Net Professional for only $89.95
http://www.academicsuperstore.com/ma...sual+studio++&

Here is a page showing the other offers they have for .Net:
http://www.academicsuperstore.com/ma...5dbeef51041d98
Jan 14th, 2003, 02:29 AM
PT Exorcist

User Control are vb6's ocxs
Jan 14th, 2003, 01:50 PM
hellswraith

You can make controls in .Net..... PT, I don't understand what you mean. You can make a couple different types of control libraries....at least that is what I have available with VS.Net Enterprise Architect version.
Jan 14th, 2003, 04:38 PM
Cander

Standard edition is a good deal. The inability to do dll's is easily worked around by manually compiling with the command line compiler. no big deal really.

And Im sure there is a bunch of other stuff standard is missing, but none of it is necessary stuff or anything you cant work around since everything of any major importance is in the .NET Framework itself.
Jan 14th, 2003, 04:44 PM
hellswraith

I don't think that the standard edition is a good deal when you compare it to the VS.Net Professional version for only 30 more dollars.

I think it would be VERY wise to go ahead and buy the VS.Net professional edition at the link that I posted above instead of buying only VB.Net standard for 30 dollars less. By spending 30 dollars more, you get more functionality (less to have to work around), and additional languages (IDE wise you get C#, VB, C++ and J#).
Jan 14th, 2003, 04:47 PM
Cander

I didnt know vs.net professional was that cheap.
Jan 14th, 2003, 04:50 PM
hellswraith

Only if you go to school, it is academic pricing...
Jan 14th, 2003, 05:06 PM
RealNickyDude

...but if you don't go to school, Standard is ideal if (like me) you're a beginner. All the things I want to do, I can do with Standard.

Now I wish I was at school, bugger
Jan 14th, 2003, 06:17 PM
nswan

you can get a 60 day professional trial version which can be cracked :D
Jan 14th, 2003, 07:00 PM
briancps

re crack

GDay nswan
I make my living out of writing software for clients (Real Estate Agents)- I'd hate them to give it to their mate nextdoor and not pay me - if you want it - buy it -don't crack it.
Jan 14th, 2003, 07:06 PM
nswan

i didn't find out how to crack it, nor did i crack mine.

I just think microsoft should give it to students for free!

I write software myself so the same applies for me on your view on cracking.
Jan 14th, 2003, 08:26 PM
hellswraith

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I just think microsoft should give it to students for free!

I think that Honda should give students cars for free.... That is just such a lousy statement.

The prices for students is VERY VERY reasonable. Any kid can save up 90 dollars these days. They may have to work for it, but that is how the world works.