Ownership Of Code etc.

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Nov 22nd, 2002, 11:54 AM
plenderj

Ownership Of Code etc.

MartinLiss and I have checked this with the admins, and they never intended to take ownership of the code.
That clause just happened to appear in the AUP.

They have never had this issue before at CodeGuru, so that's why they did not forsee any problems.

They agree that for them to take ownership of your code is not right.
The AUP is being changed to non-exclusive, which means that you retain the rights to use your code however you wish.

The AUP page should be updated within a day or two.
Nov 22nd, 2002, 11:57 AM
kleinma

plenderj you da man

code guru must be a bunch of suckers :p
Nov 22nd, 2002, 12:08 PM
KarlMoore

Just a quick hello :)

Well done Jamie!

KM
Nov 22nd, 2002, 12:10 PM
plenderj

I shouldn't get the credit on this.
Martin's actually the one who raised the issue with the admins.

I just added my two cents on the matter, and created this thread.
Nov 22nd, 2002, 12:26 PM
msimmons

Quote:

Originally posted by plenderj
I shouldn't get the credit on this.
Martin's actually the one who raised the issue with the admins.

I just added my two cents on the matter, and created this thread.

thanks :)
Nov 22nd, 2002, 12:27 PM
kleinma

Quote:

Originally posted by KarlMoore
Just a quick hello :)

Well done Jamie!

KM

holy crapoly... KarlMoore does exist :eek: :eek: :confused:
Nov 22nd, 2002, 12:29 PM
crptcblade

Re: Ownership Of Code etc.

Quote:

Originally posted by plenderj
MartinLiss and I have checked this with the admins, and they never intended to take ownership of the code.
That clause just happened to appear in the AUP.

They have never had this issue before at CodeGuru, so that's why they did not forsee any problems.

They agree that for them to take ownership of your code is not right.
The AUP is being changed to non-exclusive, which means that you retain the rights to use your code however you wish.

The AUP page should be updated within a day or two.

So what, now my code's not good enough for them to take?!? That's it, I'm outta here...Who's with me?

:mad::mad::mad:
Nov 22nd, 2002, 12:31 PM
kovan

glad this is brought up by mods with mods..

kedaman we are all good now eh?
Nov 22nd, 2002, 12:40 PM
kleinma

Re: Re: Ownership Of Code etc.

Quote:

Originally posted by crptcblade
So what, now my code's not good enough for them to take?!? That's it, I'm outta here...Who's with me?

:mad::mad::mad:

yeah lets go... they must think our code is all a bunch of crap.. thats why they changed their minds at the last minute.. they were looking for good code to sell and didn't find any :p
Nov 22nd, 2002, 04:52 PM
Michael_Kamen

Yes, they've changed the AUP. You now have to pay if you want them to use your code without asking.. :)
Nov 22nd, 2002, 05:28 PM
Q_Me

By copyright laws state that whoever submits their work to a company or interprise is protected by the submitter. If a company takes claim to a individual's work there is huge lawsuit from $250 to $5,000,000! If the submitter gives permission to user the individual's work than that company must take credit to the submitter.
Nov 22nd, 2002, 07:05 PM
danielsan

So if i get this right, we should be happy we are such crappy programmers?:) Well anyways, i think it is good that they change the AUP, either way:)
Nov 22nd, 2002, 10:36 PM
OrdinaryGuy

great... now to get rid of my black avatar
Nov 22nd, 2002, 10:40 PM
crptcblade

Well, I can rest easy now that the crusade to accomplish nothing is finally over.
Nov 23rd, 2002, 01:22 AM
Pc_Madness

So there still going to use our code?
Nov 23rd, 2002, 04:40 AM
Jack Daniels

Quote:

Originally posted by plenderj
I shouldn't get the credit on this.
Martin's actually the one who raised the issue with the admins.

I just added my two cents on the matter, and created this thread.

Thanks Martin and Jamie, But I like my balck avatar so im keeping it :p
Nov 23rd, 2002, 07:13 AM
Nightwalker83

Quote:

Originally posted by Q_Me
By copyright laws state that whoever submits their work to a company or interprise is protected by the submitter. If a company takes claim to a individual's work there is huge lawsuit from $250 to $5,000,000! If the submitter gives permission to user the individual's work than that company must take credit to the submitter.

I just have to ring I friend of mine "Bill" to see if I can borrow some money:p
Nov 23rd, 2002, 09:09 AM
VB_ChickenPower

All your code are belong to me
Nov 23rd, 2002, 09:17 AM
duc

Quote:

Originally posted by kleinma
holy crapoly... KarlMoore does exist :eek: :eek: :confused:

the holy one has sp0ken :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Nov 23rd, 2002, 11:36 AM
KarlMoore

lol :)

Just sitting back and giggling at people now getting angry that their code *hasn't* been nicked.

BTW, can I check whether an official announcement has been made RE the changes at the Network? There were releases on Yahoo! Finance and so on (see www.whitecliff.net) but I'm unsure as to whether everyone has been properly told.

I'm a little concerned as to how this how thing has been approached.

KM
Nov 23rd, 2002, 11:42 AM
parksie

No official announcements that I noticed, and no emails...
Nov 23rd, 2002, 04:43 PM
chrisjk

well well, isn't this interesting

Sterling job boys :rolleyes:

So how many euros did you make outta this one then Karl? I especially like the "buy from John, spin some corporate rubbish about 'improvments' and future direction, sell to highest bidder" line. Worked a treat...

Bit of a hot potato this place isn't it
Nov 23rd, 2002, 06:03 PM
beachbum

Quote:

Originally posted by crptcblade
Well, I can rest easy now that the crusade to accomplish nothing is finally over.

Me too, I've even had to dismiss my Prozac dealer.

This episode was a lesson in democracy... the vast majority was too apathetic to notice... a small minority ranted and raved... and the head honchos did nothing but made it look like they did something :)
Nov 23rd, 2002, 08:01 PM
NotLKH

Well, at least it got them to say they did something about it.

Last time I clicked myself, the AUP hasn't changed, but plenderj did say it might take a couple of days.

The good news is, at least it's now owned by USAmericans!
No More American Bashing!

:p :D :p
Nov 23rd, 2002, 09:18 PM
Pix

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisjk
well well, isn't this interesting

Sterling job boys :rolleyes:

So how many euros did you make outta this one then Karl? I especially like the "buy from John, spin some corporate rubbish about 'improvments' and future direction, sell to highest bidder" line. Worked a treat...

Bit of a hot potato this place isn't it

:D I love you :)
Nov 23rd, 2002, 10:10 PM
parksie

Good choice Nic :) I think Chris is even more cynical than I am, which takes some doing...
Nov 24th, 2002, 01:32 AM
DragonFly

Quote:

Originally posted by Pix
:D I love you :)

Awwwwwwwwwww cute :love: :D :thumb:

;)
Nov 24th, 2002, 07:21 PM
Beacon

whats all this about then??
Nov 24th, 2002, 07:22 PM
crptcblade

A little run in with the commie-nazis and their attempt to take over the known world with what has vaguely been referred to as the "lost ark".

:confused:
Nov 24th, 2002, 07:30 PM
Beacon

keh?? :confused:

I gather something about code you post on here andf ownership!
Anyone want to clarify it?
Nov 24th, 2002, 07:32 PM
crptcblade

There was a big stink about the new owners having exclusive license over any code posted here from the beginning to the end of time. It's been changed though, so everything is honkey-dory.

:)
Nov 24th, 2002, 07:36 PM
Beacon

bah for that to happen you'd have to sign up again anyway.
They couldnt just change the rules!

thanks crpt! :)
Nov 24th, 2002, 08:07 PM
KarlMoore

I'm sorry if communication has been a little poor these past few days. I have had to sit quietly in the background whilst internet.com make the official announcement, however I want you all to know I'm alive and kicking.

Ya can't get rid of me that easily, y'know.

And ChrisJK... think you're awfully unfair :)

KM
Nov 24th, 2002, 08:13 PM
Beacon

Quote:

Originally posted by KarlMoore
I'm sorry if communication has been a little poor these past few days. I have had to sit quietly in the background whilst internet.com make the official announcement, however I want you all to know I'm alive and kicking.

Ya can't get rid of me that easily, y'know.

And ChrisJK... think you're awfully unfair :)

KM

pfffftt your just jealous that pix loves him! ;) :p
Nov 27th, 2002, 12:40 PM
NotLKH

Re: Ownership Of Code etc.

Quote:

Originally posted by plenderj
....The AUP is being changed to non-exclusive, which means that you retain the rights to use your code however you wish.

Well, even though the AUP has changed, now that I looked at the Legal Notices, as quoted in my signature, isn't there a confict between the two?

-Lou
Nov 27th, 2002, 09:29 PM
NotLKH

So, I guess you were too busy to answer my last post today,
or you just don't care about this?
:confused:
Nov 27th, 2002, 09:58 PM
rjlohan

I say crash their stoopid company, come join GalahTech ! :D
Nov 28th, 2002, 04:21 AM
plenderj

Quote:

Originally posted by NotLKH
So, I guess you were too busy to answer my last post today,
or you just don't care about this?
:confused:

Sorry I delete most of the reply notification emails I get.
If someone wants to contact me badly they can PM me ;)

Anyway um there's no quote in your signature...
Nov 28th, 2002, 07:15 AM
NotLKH

Thats ok.

I was concerned about the legal notices, where it says:

Quote:

YOU MAY NOT MODIFY, COPY, REPRODUCE, REPUBLISH, UPLOAD, POST, TRANSMIT, OR DISTRIBUTE, IN ANY MANNER, THE MATERIAL ON THE SITE, INCLUDING TEXT, GRAPHICS, CODE AND/OR SOFTWARE

But, as I've been informed, it must pertain to the actual physical code of the website itself, along with its textual and graphical design.

So, thanks!
-lOU

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